Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by mar3o

That seems to go against what's in this article that was just posted today.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/most-york...120729916.html

“I’m quite confident that it was not spreading in December in the United States,” Bedford said. “There may have been a couple other introductions in January that didn’t take off in the same way.”

How does it go against a study thats results aren’t released yet? Lol

[dobyblue]

Many more people may have been infected with coronavirus and acquired immunity than previously thought, according to a groundbreaking study in Germany.

Scientists studying the town at the epicentre of the country's first major outbreak said they had found antibodies to the virus in people who had shown no symptoms and were not previously thought to have been infected.

Initial results released on Thursday suggest that as many as 15 per cent of people in Gangelt, in Heinsberg district, may already have immunity – three times as many as previous estimates.

The findings suggest the mortality rate for the virus in Germany is just 0.37 per cent — five times lower than current estimates.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-german-study/

[DVD Josh]

I'm surprised still no TP anywhere around here. About to pull the garden hose in through the window.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by DVD Josh

I'm surprised still no TP anywhere around here. About to pull the garden hose in through the window.

Order some on WM

https://www.walmart.com/search/?query=toilet%20paper

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Yes, basically if you get to a point where you have a severe case of pneumonia that you need a ventilator to breathe for you, doctors are at that point waiting, and hoping for your body to work on its own, and fight the infection off itself. But then the body overdoes it, releasing a ton of cytokines as a huge immune response, but this flooding (known as cytokine storm syndrome) is too much for the weakened body to handle, and it eventually leads to organ failure and ultimately death. That's why, the longer you're on a ventilator, the poorer the prognosis is.

There are some ways to combat this, like using immunosuppressive steroids, and other drugs, but they don't always work. Interestingly, Hydroxychloroquine might work to reduce the cytokine storm too.

The ventilator protocol may be wrong also, doing more harm than good...

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/928156

[LordoftheRings]

If the moderator wants to moderate that's all fine; there's a balance, good common sense, and if one person knows where this balance is, more power to that.

Corona is the power ...

Good Friday, time to play outside with the sun and @ night watch 4K Blu-ray ...

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Order some on WM

https://www.walmart.com/search/?query=toilet%20paper

Those all say out of stock or In-store purchase only.

[InuYashaCrusade]

I found toilet paper at Walmart on Wednesday morning. I was there an hour after they opened and there was about 10 boxes of it.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Those all say out of stock or In-store purchase only.

No they don't.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

ever dive the stones of Atlantis? (day trip from Ft. Lauderdale by boat)

No. Never heard of that one. Actually, I didn't do that much diving when I was living in FL which is really funny because I used to fly down for the weekend to visit my mom in Ft. Lauderdale and go diving. About 85% of the diving I did was when I was living in Lynbrook, Long Island. Dry suit for LI and shorty wet suit for the boat trips I took 4 to 5 times a year in The Bahamas, Cayman Islands, Cancun and Belize. Most of the diving I did in FL was down through the Keys.

It was on a 7 day boat trip through the Exuma's that I had my worst accident. We were diving 5, 6 times a day. You have to clear your eustachian tubes (by holding your nose and blowing) on your way down. They will automatically clear on the way back up if everything is working. If you can't clear them on the way down (that's call a block) you can't dive. In my case I was on my second night dive of the last day and had been building mucus up in my tubes. Being young, (33) over confident and foolish, I pushed myself for the second night dive which was at 65 feet. When I started up, at 40 feet my ears weren't clearing (called a reverse block).

So here I am at 40 feet with about 500 psi. of air left and I can't clear my ears. I tried everything including removing my mask and trying to blow my nose underwater. Finally I had to make a decision; wreck my hearing or run out of air and drown.

Was totally deaf for 24 hours (with a massive headache) then finally my ears "popped" and the block cleared. Left ear was fine but the right eardrum had partially ruptured. When it finally healed I had lost 50% of my hearing in the right ear.

Didn't stop me from diving but it made me a lot more cautious on multiple dive boat trips.

I believe the same thing happened to actor Steve McQueen only his loss of hearing was greater.

[intoanewlife]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Many more people may have been infected with coronavirus and acquired immunity than previously thought, according to a groundbreaking study in Germany.

Scientists studying the town at the epicentre of the country's first major outbreak said they had found antibodies to the virus in people who had shown no symptoms and were not previously thought to have been infected.

Initial results released on Thursday suggest that as many as 15 per cent of people in Gangelt, in Heinsberg district, may already have immunity – three times as many as previous estimates.

The findings suggest the mortality rate for the virus in Germany is just 0.37 per cent — five times lower than current estimates.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-german-study/

Originally Posted by dobyblue

The ventilator protocol may be wrong also, doing more harm than good...

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/928156

You're right....absolutely nothing to see here...total hoax...everybody back to work!

You and your family and friends first.

[Unknown450]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

No they don't.

They do for me. I'm good on TP atm but checked to see.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

No they don't.

Originally Posted by Unknown450

They do for me. I'm good on TP atm but checked to see.

That's what I'm saying. This guy likes to just pick arguments with me and it's very annoying. Everything is out of stock on my end and he just contradicts without sending a link to whatever product is supposedly "in stock."

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

The ventilator protocol may be wrong also, doing more harm than good...
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/928156

I read the opinion when it came out - https://www.atsjournals.org/action/cookieAbsent

For the most part the critically ill patients being seen in thee O.C. (and, for that matter, my sister-in-law hospitalized in Chicago) have clinically acted in hospital like typical ARDS patients (hypoxia and low compliance), so there has been no need to adjust traditional ventilation strategies. Perhaps in locales like New York City and parts of Italy where they’re treating a massive number of patients, they are experiencing a variety of presentations.

My greatest fear is that some politician with no medical background will take interviews like that as an excuse so as to take their foot off the gas and not encourage businesses to manufacture as many ventilators as quickly as possible for the country especially if people become complacent with social distancing, hand washing, etc. and we see a 2nd and 3rd wave as the result.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

diving. dive boat trips.

I’ve done a bit of that (including underwater photography) back in the day, even with this guy - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post11283137

[Unknown450]

Originally Posted by MrHT

That's what I'm saying. This guy likes to just pick arguments with me and it's very annoying. Everything is out of stock on my end and he just contradicts without sending a link to whatever product is supposedly "in stock."

Obviously it could be different depending on state/city. But what i do when I'm low on TP now is wait for my local Dollar general to get heir trucks on friday and within an hour or 2 they'll have the boxes of TP out. Lately it hasnt been as crazy to where they sell out within mins..

So if you've got one of them around and can find out the day they get their shipments in try within an hour or two of the delivery.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Many more people may have been infected with coronavirus and acquired immunity than previously thought, according to a groundbreaking study in Germany.

Scientists studying the town at the epicentre of the country's first major outbreak said they had found antibodies to the virus in people who had shown no symptoms and were not previously thought to have been infected.

Initial results released on Thursday suggest that as many as 15 per cent of people in Gangelt, in Heinsberg district, may already have immunity – three times as many as previous estimates.

The findings suggest the mortality rate for the virus in Germany is just 0.37 per cent — five times lower than current estimates.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-german-study/

And see my previous post regarding reinfection...

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

If the moderator wants to moderate that's all fine; there's a balance, good common sense, and if one person knows where this balance is, more power to that.

Corona is the power ...

Good Friday, time to play outside with the sun and @ night watch 4K Blu-ray ...

I'm watching Art Mann Presents in about an hour...he's doing a Playboy Mansion episode.

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[LordoftheRings]

Sorry, I don't have time for any "Playboy Mansion" episodes right now.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Unknown450

Obviously it could be different depending on state/city. But what i do when I'm low on TP now is wait for my local Dollar general to get heir trucks on friday and within an hour or 2 they'll have the boxes of TP out. Lately it hasnt been as crazy to where they sell out within mins..

So if you've got one of them around and can find out the day they get their shipments in try within an hour or two of the delivery.

True, but it's hard to conclude that if he doesn't post one or two items that show "in stock" on his end. Just replying "No they don't" is a little obnoxious if you ask me.