Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[chip75]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Damn that's terrible. Is there anywhere else they could move the table, or is there another place you could possibly park your car?

Unfortunately not, we each have our own drives and gardens, but the communal drive runs across the front of the houses perpendicular. So they're blocking the exit to the street for four houses.

Thankfully we can't use our car at the moment, but we're relying on deliveries.

We're just trying to ignore them, but as everyone is stressed, it's making matters worse. We're beginning to feel like fishes in a fish bowl stuck in a large fish pond. Everyone's swimming around doing their thing while we're stuck in a bowl watching our shit float by ...

[veritas]

Originally Posted by JayTL

I see they're trying to get more money out to small businesses, I wonder if another stimulus check could be coming down the road too

I think it's really dumb to try to re-open things like bowling alleys & movie theaters, but I can see the need for salons to open up (I'm assuming the workers and clients will have to wear masks/do their diligence to stay safe)

getting your hair dyed or cut isn't essential either. Its something people did for themselves for ages and can be put off without really impacting anyone more then cosmetically.

One thing that I am curious about is if they open up the gyms etc how many people will be dumb enough to go? Like all the workers will go because its their jobs and they get payed to but I doubt many customers will go meaning 90% of the workers will get furloughed anyway. The way I see this playing out is we had a supply side shock because the government shut companies down but then when they try to open everything back up you have a demand side shock because only the idiots are willing to do stuff like go to the gyms or eat at a restaurant during a pandemic. If they had not done a shelter in place order people still would have stopped consuming a large portion of stuff eventually because most things aren't worth risking your life over to have.

[JayTL]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

im sure some are. not really sure why someone couldnt just make a drink at home though.

That's what I've been doing

[Moe Szyslak]

Originally Posted by bruceames

California governor Newsom outlined a 6 point plan of what need to take place before things can reopen again. Basically the first thing is that the curve not only needs to be flattened, but have a downward trajectory that is sustained for at least two weeks.

Later on higher risk business can reopen if testing capacity increases to a certain level. Ideally it would be something like a saliva test that can accurately tell in seconds whether you have it or not. That would make even large gatherings such as concerts and sporting events possible. But don't know if such a test is feasible or not.

But there will be some trial and error of course. That's why it was mentioned that there will be some back and forth of restrictions removed and reinstated whenever it causes cases to jump too much.

I did watch part of his briefing when you posted it even though I'm on the other side of the country. It was encouraging to see someone with an actual plan ha. Everyone is different, but this is the sort of thing I'm looking for, and I appreciate how he acknowledged that we can't expect everything to go perfect and may need to tighten restrictions again if the results suggest its necessary.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by chip75

Our neighbours opposite have decided to place a table and chairs at the bottom of our drive (it's a communal drive) and there are about eight people, adults and kids sitting around having a "great" time, drinking, colouring in.

It basically means we're trapped, we can't put our rubbish out and can't drive out in an emergency if we needed to. A delivery just came and the guy had to walk right past them, he was not a happy camper. I wouldn't have even bothered.

These are the clowns that are clapping for the NHS with their pots and pans at 8 o'clock. Hypocritical passive-aggressive bullshit.

Ya sometimes I think humanity is just to stupid to be allowed to survive...

[dublinbluray108]

The effect of the virus in Ireland has not really crippled the health system to a very large degree. The public hospitals are not seeing overcapacity in their use of beds. Also the amount of ICU beds being freed up has started to increase as well because we had a big increase recently in the number of people who have been formally discharged from hospital after patients had recovered from the virus. The private hospital system has barely been used overall during this pandemic to date.

The largest number of deaths from this virus in Ireland have been reported in people who live in nursing home, community care & residential care home settings. The biggest issues that still remain is that there is still a lack of PPE arriving into these settings. Management staff from these facilities are making huge efforts so far to source the PPE privately for people who have to use it within their own settings as well as getting more PPE supplies from the government who have it shipped into the country by plane.

Ireland's government have formally instructed a select number of building sites that build social housing for local councils to re-open with very strict conditions being attached to all construction workers on these sites. These sites are being prioritized to be finished as a way of reducing the amount of people who are either currently on a waiting list for a house or for vulnerable members of society who are currently homeless. Once these housing sites are completed; it will give people who will get these new homes a chance to self-isolate in warm shelter to prevent themselves from catching the virus. A lot of homeless people at the moment are staying in hotels, hostels and B&B's. The number of homeless people sleeping out on the streets is now at historic lows in Ireland.

The Construction Industry Federation has said last night that when these sites re-open; all construction workers on site are being instructed to comply with all of the relevant Irish Health & Safety legislation & current health guidelines that relate to the virus from the HSE. If these sites are found to be in breach of these guidelines; they will should be shut down immediately. So that means if anyone working on site spot anyone doing anything inappropriate or anyone catching the symptoms that constitute a breach the rules on these sites. The site managers will have to shut down the site with permission of the health authorities straight away.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

God save Hollywood.

The moves on the chessboard can be interesting….https://celluloidjunkie.com/2020/04/...ere-its-going/

Be it in a theater, supermarket, etc. and someone inadvertently sneezes or irresponsibly coughs freely into the air without covering their mouth/face when not wearing a mask, keep MIT and most recently, Florida Atlantic’s College of Engineering and Computer Science studies in mind -
http://news.mit.edu/2014/coughs-and-...ther-you-think
http://www.fau.edu/newsdesk/articles...oronavirus.php

[Moe Szyslak]

New Pennsylvania coronavirus cases rose again as the state saw a dramatic spike in reported deaths, due in part to newly reported data.

On Tuesday, the COVID-19 death toll rose by 360 in the Pennsylvania Department of Health’s daily update, by far the most of any single day in the state, pushing the toll here to 1,564 adults.

Meanwhile, the rate of new coronavirus cases in Pennsylvania ticked upward slightly, with 1,296 new positive tests bringing the statewide total to 34,528 since the first cases here were identified March 6.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.leh...outputType=amp

[Show spoiler]

[dublinbluray108]

Some more detailed figures have come from Ireland's Department of Health tonight about recorded deaths from Covid-19.

730 deaths have been "laboratory confirmed" deaths occurring within Irish hospitals.

108 deaths have been recorded as deaths in "community related settings". These deaths are not recorded in hospitals.

But there has been some good news about Ireland's overall recovery rate from the virus.

Over 9,000 people have recovered from the virus, out of a total of 16,040 cases, which is really good news.

8,377 have recovered within community related settings. 956 have been discharged from hospital.

Another bit of good news regarding testing for the virus is that the results of people's tests can come back within 24 to 36 hours once a sample gets to a lab. There has been a backlog of tests which has now been resolved with a lot of older tests coming back from a laboratory in Germany. People had to wait about 7 to 10 days for a test result with some people waiting to a month to get their results back. The number of tests carried out to date is still very low at 20,822. 4,025 of those tests have come back positive.

Things won't be returning to normal after the 5th of May.

Public events like sporting events & concerts which have capacities of over 5,000 people have been called off until late August.

Ireland's Prime Minister, Leo Varadkar, is to have his first Irish TV interview since the pandemic began, on RTÉ's Prime Time, in a few minutes.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by dublinbluray108

Public events like sporting events & concerts which have capacities of over 5,000 people have been called off until late August.

Germany the same until Oct. 24th, and their country is in better shape than most. I'm entered in both the Boston and NY marathons this year and I know full well now that the odds of either taking place is zero. Hopefully a few local or trail races will proceed by the fall.

[veritas]

Originally Posted by bruceames

Germany the same until Oct. 24th, and their country is in better shape than most. I'm entered in both the Boston and NY marathons this year and I know full well now that the odds of either taking place is zero. Hopefully a few local or trail races will proceed by the fall.

Germany’s mortality rate is at 3.3% now so they aren’t doing better then most anymore.

[Pondosinatra]

https://www.facebook.com/brian.rodge...414236449/?t=0

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by veritas

Germany’s mortality rate is at 3.3% now so they aren’t doing better then most anymore.

If that is how you want to measure it then yes they are. But nobody cares about comparative mortality rate stats anymore because they are meaningless without more extensive testing. Germany flattened the curve a few weeks ago and is seeing fewer cases. Certainly in better shape than most EU countries and of course the U.S.

[MEHEARTJC]

Originally Posted by mar3o

"The Long-Term Effects Coronavirus May Have On The Body"

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/coron...b6ea335d5b3cf3

Good grief, I can't take anymore of this kind of news. So sick of every day being worse news than the day before. Covid 19 not only destroys your hope, your 401K, anything in life you ever enjoyed, but now we can't even hope to recover well from it.

Oh well, no one lives forever. I'm clinging to that thought now.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by MEHEARTJC

Good grief, I can't take anymore of this kind of news. So sick of every day being worse news than the day before. Covid 19 not only destroys your hope, your 401K, anything in life you ever enjoyed, but now we can't even hope to recover well from it.

Oh well, no one lives forever. I'm clinging to that thought now.

Take any editorial article on that site with a grain of salt. It feeds fear.

[Lee A Stewart]

The states that are opening up is a prelude to disaster. No way have we flattened the curve. What we need to do is to continue the S-I-P mandates through at least May 15th and possibly until the end of May.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

The Fed has to do more - at least another $2 trillion stimulus package which has to include $2000 per person over the age of 16. What's the difference between being $26T in debt versus $28T?

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by bruceames

Fine by me. Just going back the theater will help bring some sense of normalcy. The only thing is if I'll ever feel normal wearing a face covering there. I would bring the most breathable one I can find.

Originally Posted by bruceames

On second thought, who is going to want to go to theater if you have to watch a movie with a mask on? Maybe they'll require it until you're seated?

Yes, going back to the theaters would reinstate a sense of normality (better than a sense of mortality).

A mask and a pair of goggles ... for 3D movies with a smell effect.
Each seat would have its own enclosure, with transparent plastic walls (on each side, rear and front).

It's going to be different for sure, but the best thing is 3D flicks would be back.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

I've never seen a jogger with a face mask on. I don't even know how they would do it. I'd be dying.

Originally Posted by Moe Szyslak

I tried, it sucked. Fortunately, my community has wide streets, and it's easy enough for me to just make my way to the other side to give people well over six feet.

Some marathon runners from some countries wear them ...

[LordoftheRings]

Amazon should have a stimulus for 4K Blu-ray movies. I think Jeff Bezos can afford it...with $150 billion.

"The first centi-billionaire on the Forbes wealth index, Bezos has been the world's richest person since 2017 and was named the "richest man in modern history" after his net worth increased to $150 billion in July 2018."

Sure, he split with his wife, had a little less, and then came Corona pandemic and added $24 billion ...

• https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...virus-pandemic

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

The states that are opening up is a prelude to disaster. No way have we flattened the curve. What we need to do is to continue the S-I-P mandates through at least May 15th and possibly until the end of May.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

The Fed has to do more - at least another $2 trillion stimulus package which has to include $2000 per person over the age of 16. What's the difference between being $26T in debt versus $28T?

Really?

NY Gov. Cuomo: "Undeniable Fact" That We Flattened The Curve

Other states will vary, but I don't think any states are going to proceed to a partial reopening if they haven't seen a flattening of the curve and seen a downward trend in new cases.