Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Staying Salty

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The first thing I noticed about what she said and has no clue ...
• https://www.businessinsider.com/coro...ibodies-2020-4

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Staying Salty

Guys, if you don't realize that there are people/groups that do not have your best interest at heart, then I can tell you, "Don't believe every thing you read and hear."

One of the worst places for a pandemic is America, exactly for the reason you just mentioned. It's like Wall Street...the NYSE.

[Hitman Horton]

Originally Posted by Staying Salty

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I know what she was trying to do but she did it very badly.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by chip75

You could run a super confusing attack-ad ...

The House Always Wins.

She's 81. If you can't go and play a bit of [Russian] Roulette for kicks, when can you?

Sweet Zombie Jesus, think of all the people blowing on the dice at a craps table, pulling slot machine levers, pawing over their cards at blackjack all in a large area with recycled air.

Yeah, absolutely the worst kind of environment to open back up right now. It's like a playground for COVID-19.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by TheBoss062

Is it a good idea for businesses to try and reopen at this time? Several in my state are trying to.

The best person to ask that question is a Coronavirus pandemic expert.
There are none. So it's a trial and error chance. The businesses they'll reopen they'd better take all preventive measures and be ready for class action lawsuits in case something goes wrong and they are responsible.

Workers need distancing, wearing masks, hand soap, gloves, no talk, no breathing, helmets with protective plastic visors, ...the place needs to be spick and span clean, sanitized every day, workers checked in every morning with heat sensors, ...

Not many people can work like that, the ones who can are from another country, who obey all the very stringent rules together. It takes immense discipline, control, surveillance, ...all new ball game.

And when your shift is over some washing is required and mask maintenance, carefulness. And after supper no stripjoint, no bars, no dancing go-go clubs, just stay home and watch Netflix on TV, or play poker online.

Then go to bed and repeat the same the next day.
That reminds me of that Tom Cruise's sci-fi flick...Live Die Repeat: Edge of Tomorrow.

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by Staying Salty

These were older veterans. I can speak with experience that if you are in a VA hospital at an older age you have severe medical issues. IMO these type of anti hydroxychloroquine articles surve a hidden agenda.

Below is a quote to counter the above article:



Guys, if you don't realize that there are people/groups that do not have your best interest at heart, then I can tell you, "Don't believe every thing you read and hear."

Are we just in the habit of posting sourceless quotes to back up theories now seriously that could have come from any strange website and we have no clue as to where you pulled it from. Please don’t spread information without allowing people to see the full context of the article, it’s dangerous.

[Staying Salty]

Originally Posted by Foggy

Are we just in the habit of posting sourceless quotes to back up theories now seriously that could have come from any strange website and we have no clue as to where you pulled it from. Please don’t spread information without allowing people to see the full context of the article, it’s dangerous.

I pulled it from a twitter post. Below is a link to an article addressing his comments. As I have said before, it is important to research on your own, particularly non MSM sources. The truth is out there, but you do have to search for it.

https://www.newsmax.com/us/robert-wi.../22/id/964134/

[jonmoz]

Originally Posted by bruceames

I didn't know anyone still cared about what China reports.

Or trusted it.

[jonmoz]

Originally Posted by Staying Salty

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So basically don't leave the house for any reason, unless you have a reason to leave the house...makes perfect sense.

[jonmoz]

Originally Posted by Monterey Jack

At our store, all employees have been required to wear masks since Monday, and one of the new girls who wasn't (yet) wearing one got shouted at by an irate customer the other day. And yet there are still a handful of customers coming in without masks. If we're getting forced to wear masks, we should bar customers from entering without them, but that'd require having someone stand by the door the entire day to enforce it.

I doubt shouting at employees will get us very far, and to be honest if people who go out are that concerned, they shouldn't be going out in the first place, and if people think masks are going to save them then they need to think again, they are an illusion of protection at best.

[Moe Szyslak]

Forgive me if this has been posted already. Good story

With her aunt fighting for her life, Leuzzi became the first Red Cross donor in the country to take part in the treatment.

“The night before she got the plasma, doctors called us and said they're giving her about 12 hours to live,” Leuzzi said.

After Bannister received her niece’s plasma, her prognosis quickly improved. Yet it didn’t end with her. Leuzzi’s donated plasma also saved the life of a complete stranger; a 61-year-old man from Washington Township, New Jersey, who had been critically ill from COVID-19 before receiving the plasma.

“Marisa saved two lives,” Leuzzi’s uncle, Greg Bannister, told NBC10. “Two. And always have hope. You can't give up.”

The FDA still considers the use of plasma as an experimental treatment. Yet with more cases of patients recovering after being a recipient, more and more donations are coming in.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...2371444/%3famp

[MifuneFan]

Plasma is a great option, and it has the potential to save many lives. The only thing is, I believe the immunity is only temporary, and at most would be for a few months from what I've read.

[Moe Szyslak]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Plasma is a great option, and it has the potential to save many lives. The only thing is, I believe the immunity is only temporary, and at most would be for a few months from what I've read.

Could be true, it's still experimental. They're only using the donated plasma for "serious or immediately life-threatening COVID-19 infections" right now.

If anyone here has recovered from COVID-19, or you know people who have, you/they can sign up to be a donor here:
https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate...-patients.html

[Hayabusa85]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

The first thing I noticed about what she said and has no clue ...
• https://www.businessinsider.com/coro...ibodies-2020-4

There are obviously more than 2-3% developing antibodies or we would be hearing a lot more about recovered patients getting it again. There have been very few reported instances of recovered patients relapsing and those were likely because they were not actually recovered yet since they have all been within days of being declared recovered. There have been no reports of somebody getting it again months after recovering which would be the only sign of people not developing antibodies or the antibodies having a very short lifespan. Unless we start hearing about thousands of people in Wuhan that were among the first to recover getting it again then there is no reason to deny antibodies and right now those people would be 4-6 months recovered so there is no reason to think the antibodies will only last few weeks or months. Obviously still too early to determine permanent immunity though and also too early to see if this keeps mutating which would make immunity to a previous strain moot. But this 2-3% claim by WHO is just plain nonsense and does anybody even still care what Tedros has to say? He is more deserving of a prison cell than being an authority on this at this point.

Also some of the antibody testing they are referencing have been beyond flawed. The one study only tested young people that tested positive and were asymptomatic or had very minor symptoms. Antibodies build as a body fights off the infection so people the virus doesn't seem to really do anything to for whatever reason are not really having to fight it off to build up the antibodies. Hence a low percent of people in those flawed tests having antibodies. If only 2-3% of people were developing antibodies then they might as well not bother with a vaccine considering all a vaccine does is give a minor dose of an infection for the body to fight and develop antibodies against.

That being said herd immunity is still a beyond stupid concept that would overwhelm hospitals and just be a big game of Russian roulette to determine who lives or dies.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by Staying Salty

As I have said before, it is important to research on your own, particularly non MSM sources. The truth is out there, but you do have to search for it.

OR...

You can actually post a source with your post (as many are) to save people the trouble.

[bruceames]

Didn't he mean 2-3% of the global population? In the U.S., 3% is 10 million people, which would be more than 10x the number of cases reported.

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by Hitman Horton

I know what she was trying to do but she did it very badly.

She was no different than the myriad of ADD-addled personalities that dominate all the news programs who do the same thing on a daily basis: talk fast and look pretty. This is why I'm switching to PBS.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by jonmoz

Or trusted it.

Hence the reason for not caring about it.

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by mar3o

What do you do when you need to buy groceries though? Leave them at home alone?

obviously not lol... if you are a single parent, then you do what you gotta do...

Originally Posted by mar3o

I'm in the US and my local grocery store today had arrows all over the floor directing people one-way, and the intercom was telling people to follow the arrows. Of course people were just going whichever way they wanted to anyways. I'm not sure what the point of the arrows is anyhow. The virus doesn't pay any attention to the arrows, and it was pretty calm in there today. Unlike Wal-Mart last week which was chaotic.

They also have limits to how many can enter a store at once, have plastic dividers at the registers to protect the cashiers, and some items are definitely 1 or 2 per family. There were wet wipes at the front for the carts but I have no idea if it's actually able to kill viruses or if it's just a basic wet wipe.

the point of the arrows are to direct traffic in one direction so you can maintain 6 ft. if you have people walking right at you, impossible to do that...

Originally Posted by Eye Candy

Online gambling should be enough.

there are only like 2 states in the country where you can gamble online. NJ and PA i believe... i WISH i could play poker online still

[Moe Szyslak]

Another local story I'd like to share, especially since I have several friends involved in this. Hopefully this adds some perspective for those who insist on complaining that stores and establishments they enjoy aren't open now. Try leaving your family, in the heart of a global health crisis, and being legitimately quarantined in a petrochemical plant for 28 days:

Delaware County workers going home after 28 days making COVID-19 protective gear
https://6abc.com/braskem-america-mar...vania/6115590/