Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

That's another issue, people shouldn't make more on unemployment than they make when employed. By doing so, you've removed the incentive for those people to work.

Ok so which do you hate? The player or the game?

Do you hate the fact that these people are paid so little for their jobs or do you hate the fact that the government gave us all that money on unemployment?

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Ok so which do you hate? The player or the game?

Do you hate the fact that these people are paid so little for their jobs or do you hate the fact that the government gave us all that money on unemployment?

Let's say you make ends meet on $400 a week then you should get $400 a week. Start giving someone $1000 a week then unemployment is going to dry up. Plus where is the incentive to get off unemployment and start working again?

[Tony208]

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[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by Tony208

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I knew this was going to be a fashion statement now.

[Batman1980]

I want a facehugger one.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Ok so which do you hate? The player or the game?

Do you hate the fact that these people are paid so little for their jobs or do you hate the fact that the government gave us all that money on unemployment?

If people are unhappy with their job and they feel they are paid so little then they can and should look for another job. Creating another problem doesn't solve the first.

By disincentivising people to work, it takes away their reason to work. There is only so much "unemployment" benefits available, and by giving people more than they make when employed may mean others that are unemployed get no benefits at all. Once that money drys up there is no more money to be paid for those that are unemployed. And as Governor Cuomo has said, "We are out of money now. We are now running a $10-15 billion deficit."

I don't hate that there are unemployment benefits or those that need them to get them through a transition period, they're there for a reason.

[Himmel]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

I want a facehugger one.

[Gator66]

Well, just got the call that my place of employment is shut down for at least 2 more weeks. That makes a total of 7 weeks so far. Back to a normal life was sounding pretty good. Hope this crap ends soon.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by Tony208

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Hopefully people won't need them anytime soon. So, are these also made in China?

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[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

I want a facehugger one.

OMG that would be great...I bet it's coming.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

Let's say you make ends meet on $400 a week then you should get $400 a week. Start giving someone $1000 a week then unemployment is going to dry up. Plus where is the incentive to get off unemployment and start working again?

I don't make a regular salary. Stop thinking like everyone does.

Plus, my regular unemployment isn't $400 a week. NY makes $504.

I have no way to "start working again" because my industry will probably be shut down for another 4 months.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

I don't make a regular salary. Stop thinking like everyone does.

I have no way to "start working again" because my industry will probably be shut down for another 4 months.

What industry are you in, education?

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

I don't make a regular salary. Stop thinking like everyone does.

That's not a bad thing. I'm salaried and that means I always get paid the same whether I'm out of work by 6pm or I'm working until midnight. So either way, my paycheck is always the same. No overtime pay. Crazy, isn't it?

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

What industry are you in, education?

Film and TV.

Originally Posted by MrHT

That's not a bad thing. I'm salaried and that means I always get paid the same whether I'm out of work by 6pm or I'm working until midnight. So either way, my paycheck is always the same. No overtime pay. Crazy, isn't it?

Yep. I used to work like that...except I was out in about 5 hours.
I've never worked a 9-5 M-F in my life.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by ronboster

Maybe it's time to self-moderate, instead of expecting the site to close the thread to stop you from posting and reading.

Again, it's your decision to post about 300 times in two months, no one is forcing you to read and post. You are the only one responsible for your reaction to what others are posting.

I was suggesting (hopefully in a nice way) that you should take a break, if it's having this kind of impact on your psychological well-being.

But, as I said you are the one responsible for your decision to read the thread, post in the thread and your reaction to what is posted in the thread.

Yes, of course it's my decision to read the thread. But the Coronavirus pandemic is a very important matter and worthy of reading everyday. Heck, if a miracle happens one day and they announce that the pandemic has miraculously disappeared, I'd like to know. And the only way to know is to continuously read updates about it.

Seriously though, this is important to read about whether it be on the news or even on this thread. This is why the moderators kept this thread open even though it's completely unrelated to Blu-rays. It's extremely important and worth reading and discussing about, even if it does mean getting stressed every now and then.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by Tony208

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[Show spoiler]

I just sent that to a friend and his exact response was "ummm...i'm gonna need one from the dark side. Where's Vader? Maul?"

To which I responded...

"I'm less concerned with the availability of certain pattern choices and more concerned with the commercialization of a pandemic."

[Geoff D]

I still want the Babby Yoda one, not gonna lie

[AFFanAttic]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

I don't think anyone is saying that, the high risk people should stay in quarantine so they can remain safe.

Do you think there might be some reasons why this isn't the way quarantine is done to begin with?

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by AFFanAttic

Do you think there might be some reasons why this isn't the way quarantine is done to begin with?

People want you to think everyone is at risk, which isn't true.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

High risk people, such as those with compromised immune systems, can stay home. They won't be forced to go to work. Allow those that are low risk go back to work.

That's another issue, people shouldn't make more on unemployment than they make when employed. By doing so, you've removed the incentive for those people to work.

So you're healthy, go to work, get the virus, you're okay because you're healthy, but you swing by Dunkin' Donuts and pass it to the old man in front of you in line who then gets it and dies. That's how it works.

As far as making more on unemployment than from work, this is an additional hardship that is putting people in debt by months. That can have long-lasting effects that put people behind for years. This additional $600 people are getting per week through unemployment is temporary. It end in July. Some people are asking for lay-offs to collect that extra cash because they desperately need it now. But they will be returning to their jobs by the time the assistance expires in July, hopefully, if their jobs still exist. Some jobs won't survive. My girlfriend can certainly use the additional money right now as she's one of the lucky ones that is working from home, but her hours were cut by 16 hours per week, so this is an actual temporary raise for her, even though she's working 26 hours instead of her normal 40. But if she's not called back full time because her job decides to keep her hours cut, or if her position is dropped through all this, then she's screwed for months to come, as this has been her job for well over 15 years. That extra $600 per week she got and saved will then be extremely helpful just to carry her through until she figures out what to do.

You're acting like people are just sitting pretty collecting big deposits and swimming in money. The reality is this was intended to help people survive, and for the majority of people, that's what it will be used for. Nobody is going to give up a permanent position just to collect until July. They're asking for temporary layoffs with the hope the extra money will help with the pile of bills coming in. Many of those asking are also uncomfortable working currently due to the virus.

The idea was to get money in people's hands quick before people go homeless or starve. It would have been much more complicated for them to figure out a functioning system that brings everyone up to 100% of what they normally make. They can't even get their "get my payment" page to work right. So they decided on a national average of $600, as that was the average needed to bring people to $100 of their normal pay. For many that means a raise, but again, it's only temporary, and it will help with the debt piling up. For those that don't need it for bills (lucky them) it will go back into the economy at some point.