Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[LordoftheRings]

In many countries the coronavirus pandemic is accelerating, not slowing

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Until we see pics of your eye for further evaluation, you hanging out with a dominatrix into choking and face slapping BDSM?

I took pictures today (it is still very bad) to show to my doctor, and took an appointment with a professional dermatologist ... the best on the Island ... Victoria.
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The world of tennis just took another reality check.

We hope Hollywood; actors, actresses, filmmakers, film industry workers, sota theaters, ... Tom Cruise, Scarlett Johansson, all the moviegoers and lovers and hobbyists and super passionate by the cinema art world and visual advanced technologies (8K, HDR, HFR, HLG, 3D), ... will be COVID-19- free.

We hope Samsung will survive (if they play fair and square).

* Penton, not only the world is different today but it will also be much more so tomorrow...I think. And not only for the elderly but for people of all ages...zero to 100+

It's our world, it's our choice the way we want it today and after tomorrow ...

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by bruceames

No I don't think they're are going to shut down businesses again. There's no going back on that. But they can add more restrictions to them to operate. Newsom seems to be properly balancing the needs of controlling the spread and keeping the economy going. He knows that the shutdowns affect the poor and undocumented most and his stance has always been on protecting them.

The main hotspots off the top of my head for reopened businesses are bars and nightclubs. Otherwise as I've mentioned it's public transport, slum areas or anywhere migrants and poor live in crowded conditions.

My theory, using the forest fire analogy, is that these high risk housing hot spots will "burn out" and cases will die down like they did in New York. Although at higher level of course because of the reopenings.

If NYC stays fairly stable after reopening to the level of Florida, Georgia or Texas, then we'll know that it's because they've built up a decent amount of immunity among the areas that were among the most case heavy earlier.

I believe that in some of these neighborhoods in NYC hit especially hard that up to half of the population got infected. They say antibody tests show 22% had it, but that's citywide. It will be distributed unevenly and the fact that it would be higher in high risk zones will be good because the rest of the city will be protected from new spikes from these areas. Anyway, just a theory, but hope it's true.

I think New York is dying down because of our aggressive testing, combined with the fact that most people are wearing masks and we have strict reopening phases for businesses. The big pain about this virus is finding the positive people and quarantining them. This has been challenging to do due to the 14 day incubation period. By testing aggressively, you can detect the positive cases within that incubation period and quarantine those people before they further spread the disease.

[LordoftheRings]

I agree, testing is of prime importance. More testing better for the science to advance in preserving global health survival for our species (humans). Without enough testing we are blind in the face of an invisible virulent enemy.

[Bigdog]

Oregon county

[MEHEARTJC]

Good lord, another 700 new cases for my state, Arkansas. In fact, we are one of the top states in infection rate per 100,000. I can't believe that a mostly rural state is now a major hotspot, but I would say at least half the people here don't wear mask and pretend like everything is peachy.

The governor's strategy of not doing a stay at home order is really blowing up in his face. Really wish I was living in New Zealand now.

[Waboman]

What did Tennessee?

[Show spoiler]Same thing Arkansas.

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[LordoftheRings]

...Or Australia.

Really wish I was living in New Zealand now.

But the year 2020 is not over yet; we're not even half through.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

* Penton, not only the world is different today but it will also be much more so tomorrow...I think. And not only for the elderly but for people of all ages...zero to 100+

It's our world, it's our choice the way we want it today and after tomorrow ...

oh, I know, especially if the efficacy of future COVID-19 vaccine(s) turns out to be ~ 40%. My biggest dilemma now, other than staying safe, is that I’ve (we’ve) come into some $$$ and something that I would have never before considered due to its relatively low yield is putting it into an annuity. But given the uncertainty of the pandemic and I’m thinking that a big reason that the stock market isn’t waaay lower than it is, or perhaps should be, is because the Fed is propping it up which is not sustainable and the market could turn pretty ugly in the future.

So, do I play it safe and put the money in an annuity or go for better yielding mutual funds (which directly or indirectly are all tied to the market) and of which we’re already heavily invested in with our portfolio and have been so for years.

All you guys seem to be numbers guys with your epidemiologic sleuthing, any financial advisors or better yet fiduciaries reading that can offer a suggestion during corona times?
mutual fund or annuity? where should the dough go?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

the latest

https://abcnews.go.com/US/york-jerse...ry?id=71429025

[bruceames]

Really eye opening to see all the northern states doing just fine while nearly all the southern and western states are seeing spikes. Early in the pandemic it was the complete opposite. It is just because the virus is late in coming to these areas? Most of the northern states are opening up too, especially those which didn't get hit hard in April.

[Pondosinatra]

Masks? We don't need no stinkin masks!

Model projects 179,106 coronavirus deaths in US by October 1

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...b9d449bde30a09

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

oh, I know, especially if the efficacy of future COVID-19 vaccine(s) turns out to be ~ 40%. My biggest dilemma now, other than staying safe, is that I’ve (we’ve) come into some $$$ and something that I would have never before considered due to its relatively low yield is putting it into an annuity. But given the uncertainty of the pandemic and I’m thinking that a big reason that the stock market isn’t waaay lower than it is, or perhaps should be, is because the Fed is propping it up which is not sustainable and the market could turn pretty ugly in the future.

So, do I play it safe and put the money in an annuity or go for better yielding mutual funds (which directly or indirectly are all tied to the market) and of which we’re already heavily invested in with our portfolio and have been so for years.

All you guys seem to be numbers guys with your epidemiologic sleuthing, any financial advisors or better yet fiduciaries reading that can offer a suggestion during corona times?
mutual fund or annuity? where should the dough go?

Of course I'm not a financial advisor. I am an investor though, but today a different type of investor than I used to. Invest in living today for today with what you can get by with. Tomorrow will all take care for itself, and you'll stress less and live more when it counts.

Do what you love to do, when you stop loving you start dying. And money doesn't have much to do with it for most. They just don't know it yet. We adapt, that's our power, how rich we are.

Numbers don't mean much, living life with what the sky gave us to the limit.

Just because you asked ... Money is the devil for most, because when you don't need it you don't know its value, and you don't appreciate it as much. And when you don't have it you have better life's values. It's us poor people who lead our leaders ... who put them in their rightful places. They cannot take it away with them after they're dead.

Just because you asked ... exponentially.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

Masks? We don't need no stinkin masks!

Model projects 179,106 coronavirus deaths in US by October 1

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...b9d449bde30a09

That's roughly 60,000 more deaths in the US for the next three months (average of 20,000 per month). I have zero clue; it all depends on everyone. It's the same with all other world countries...South America, Canada, India, Indonesia, Vietnam, Pakistan, Cambodia, Iran, Iraq, South Africa, Ethiopia, Saudi Arabia, Russia, Ireland.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Of course I'm not a financial advisor. I am an investor though, but today a different type of investor than I used to. Invest in living today for today with what you can get by with. Tomorrow will all take care for itself, and you'll stress less and live more when it counts.

Do what you love to do, when you stop loving you start dying. And money doesn't have much to do with it for most. They just don't know it yet. We adapt, that's our power, how rich we are.

Numbers don't mean much, living life with what the sky gave us to the limit.

Just because you asked ... Money is the devil for most, because when you don't need it you don't know its value, and you don't appreciate it as much. And when you don't have it you have better life's values.

now how can I buy all the newest TV toys, e.g. - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...96952&page=102
as well as the Blu-ray/Ultra HD Blu-ray software so heavily promoted on this forum, without money?

Which reminds me with all that natural philosophical talk, if you won’t post a pic of your eye….where’s Butchart? - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...t#post16828287

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

oh, I know, especially if the efficacy of future COVID-19 vaccine(s) turns out to be ~ 40%. My biggest dilemma now, other than staying safe, is that I’ve (we’ve) come into some $$$ and something that I would have never before considered due to its relatively low yield is putting it into an annuity. But given the uncertainty of the pandemic and I’m thinking that a big reason that the stock market isn’t waaay lower than it is, or perhaps should be, is because the Fed is propping it up which is not sustainable and the market could turn pretty ugly in the future.

So, do I play it safe and put the money in an annuity or go for better yielding mutual funds (which directly or indirectly are all tied to the market) and of which we’re already heavily invested in with our portfolio and have been so for years.

All you guys seem to be numbers guys with your epidemiologic sleuthing, any financial advisors or better yet fiduciaries reading that can offer a suggestion during corona times?
mutual fund or annuity? where should the dough go?

I'm pretty decent with numbers but I've never made any stock investments nor of any other kind either. Only retirement income is my social security. I've always told people that my retirement plan is not to retire.

None of this is of any help to you of course, although I would agree that the stock market does seem artificially high (doesn't account for the long term hits on the tourism and entertainment industries, IMO).

[MrHT]

It's amazing how many people here in NY are outdoor dining. I don't know how people can be so comfortable going out to eat at a time like this. There's people around you not wearing masks, other people are sitting on those tables, and there could be a worker at the restaurant that could possibly be sick and not know it. Not sure why people can't wait until this pandemic ends before going out to eat. Just seems very unsafe...

[Chaotic]

Because the economy needs to go on. Having everything shut down forever is not feasible.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

Because the economy needs to go on. Having everything shut down forever is not feasible.

No, I'm saying why people are going out to eat. Why not cook your own food at home and save the dining out until the pandemic is over?

And I never said "forever." I said, until the pandemic is over. This WILL end; people just need patience.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

oh, I know, especially if the efficacy of future COVID-19 vaccine(s) turns out to be ~ 40%. My biggest dilemma now, other than staying safe, is that I’ve (we’ve) come into some $$$ and something that I would have never before considered due to its relatively low yield is putting it into an annuity. But given the uncertainty of the pandemic and I’m thinking that a big reason that the stock market isn’t waaay lower than it is, or perhaps should be, is because the Fed is propping it up which is not sustainable and the market could turn pretty ugly in the future.

So, do I play it safe and put the money in an annuity or go for better yielding mutual funds (which directly or indirectly are all tied to the market) and of which we’re already heavily invested in with our portfolio and have been so for years.

All you guys seem to be numbers guys with your epidemiologic sleuthing, any financial advisors or better yet fiduciaries reading that can offer a suggestion during corona times?
mutual fund or annuity? where should the dough go?

You might explore high yield dividend low risk AAA stocks. That's what we went with. 8.5 to 11% annual yield dividends paid quarterly. The stock goes up, it goes down but the dividends just keep coming. Sure beats the 1% banks are offering on savings accounts. We also took 5% of our investment money and "gambled with it" on a super high yield dividend, high risk mutual fund. Pays 35% yearly (paid quarterly). We will be getting a bunch of money next week when Qtr2 ends.