Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[DanTheMan]

A third case confirmed at my workplace today. All have been within the last 10 days.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

And you guys (your Mom) found some of those poisonous toxic deadly products on your shelves in New York City!

My family actually doesn't live here. They live in CT. I'm not sure if that makes more sense or if it's scarier.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

Wow. 230,000 new cases just today...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/corona...d-19-1.5644587

A new record; 237,000 (almost a quarter million) new cases in one day, worldwide.
In the US alone, like Bruce mentioned on the previous page: 72,000 ... also a record high.

This is the weekend, the temperature is nice and many people across the US are hitting the highways/roads and visiting places (beaches?) and people (family, friends) for the weekend. ...Or to escape/weekend normal vacations in mid-July, to get out of the house in front of the TV news channels, for fresh outside air, to relax, relieve the pressure, etc.

Families are hitting the roads, and Coronavirus is not taking any vacations.
One state jumped by over 232% in new cases recently. I forgot which one...I watched several video news.

Have a safe weekend.

Edit: I found it...Georgia (7-day average) / Today Friday, July 10
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[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by bruceames

How would that be feasible? No facilities and no parent would allow such a thing anyway (or at least, very few).

And any parent that would want that probably is doing it already.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by bruceames

Penton, sorry I certainly wasn't referring to you,

No problem Bruce

Originally Posted by bruceames

So maybe time to stop beating that dead horse [Sweden] and find another country to pick on. And I have a pretty good idea who that candidate might be.

Not picking on, but making accountable -

YouTube

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

My family actually doesn't live here. They live in CT. I'm not sure if that makes more sense or if it's scarier.

It doesn't really matter the place, methanol kills anywhere.
We want to clean our hands, not die from toxic products.

You remember like I the first time they found 9 different hand sanitizer products made in Mexico from one company containing methanol.
And more recently another 5 products the same, and also made in Mexico.
That's 14 so far, all toxic products with methanol.
Simply put, that's crazy! Kids are most vulnerable.

The fact that your Mom found one of them is alarming.
I would be very worry for my Mom the same. Anyone would be very worry for their Mom, theirs kids, their grandkids, their family, friends, neighbors, all good people.

[LordoftheRings]

Penton, again that last video above is telling.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

It doesn't really matter the place, methanol kills anywhere.
We want to clean our hands, not die from toxic products.

No that wasn't my point.

I was saying that I'd be less surprised, I guess, if it came into NYC because we have so many stores here. However, it seems scarier that it came into a random city in Connecticut.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

No that wasn't my point.

I was saying that I'd be less surprised, I guess, if it came into NYC because we have so many stores here. However, it seems scarier that it came into a random city in Connecticut.

I understood what you said.

[LordoftheRings]

Coronavirus damages not only the lungs, but the kidneys, liver, heart, brain and nervous system, skin and gastrointestinal tract, doctors said Friday in a review of reports about Covid-19 patients.

The team at the Columbia University Irving Medical Center in New York City — one of the hospitals flooded with patients in the spring — went through their own experiences and collected reports from other medical teams around the world.

Their comprehensive picture shows the coronavirus attacks virtually every major system in the human body, directly damaging organs and causing the blood to clot, the heart to lose its healthy rhythm, the kidneys to shed blood and protein and the skin to erupt in rashes. It causes headaches, dizziness, muscle aches, stomach pain and other symptoms along with classic respiratory symptoms like coughing and fever.

"Physicians need to think of COVID-19 as a multisystem disease," said Dr. Aakriti Gupta, a cardiology fellow at Columbia who worked on the review, in a statement. "There's a lot of news about clotting but it's also important to understand that a substantial proportion of these patients suffer kidney, heart, and brain damage, and physicians need to treat those conditions along with the respiratory disease."

Much of the damage wrought by the virus appears to come because of its affinity for a receptor — a kind of molecular doorway into cells — called ACE2. Cells lining the blood vessels, in the kidneys, the liver ducts, the pancreas, in the intestinal tract and lining the respiratory tract all are covered with ACE2 receptors, which the virus can use to grapple and infect cells, the Columbia team wrote in their review, published in the journal Nature Medicine.

"These findings suggest that multiple-organ injury may occur at least in part due to direct viral tissue damage," the team wrote.

Coronavirus infection also activates the immune system. Part of that response includes the production of inflammatory proteins called cytokines. This inflammation can damage cells and organs and the so-called cytokine storm is one of the causes of severe symptoms.

"This virus is unusual and it's hard not to take a step back and not be impressed by how many manifestations it has on the human body," Dr. Mahesh Madhavan, another cardiology fellow who worked on the review, said in a statement.

Blood clotting effects appear to be caused by several different mechanisms: direct damage of the cells lining the blood vessels and interference with the various clotting mechanisms in the blood itself. Low blood oxygen caused by pneumonia can make the blood more likely to clot, the researchers said.

These clots can cause strokes and heart attacks or can lodge in the lungs or legs. They clog the kidneys and interfere with dialysis treatments needed for the sickest patients.

Damage to the pancreas can worsen diabetes, and patients with diabetes have been shown to be at the highest risk of severe illness and death from coronavirus.

The virus can directly damage the brain, but some of the neurological effects likely come from the treatment. "COVID-19 patients can be intubated for two to three weeks; a quarter require ventilators for 30 or more days," Gupta said.

"These are very prolonged intubations, and patients need a lot of sedation. 'ICU delirium' was a well-known condition before COVID, and the hallucinations may be less an effect of the virus and more an effect of the prolonged sedation."

The virus affects the immune system, depleting the T-cells the body usually deploys to fight off viral infections. "Lymphopenia, a marker of impaired cellular immunity, is a cardinal laboratory finding reported in 67-90% of patients with COVID-19," the researchers wrote.

Doctors need to treat all of these effects when coronavirus patients show up in the hospital, the Columbia team said.

There is some good news.

"Gastrointestinal symptoms may be associated with a longer duration of illness but have not been associated with increased mortality," the researchers wrote. Many of the skin effects, such as rashes and purplish, swollen "Covid toes," also clear up on their own.

Health science source.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

Is Mickey wearing a mask??

Mickey Mouse would never contract Coronavirus. It's just not possible. Kids will be safe around him.

[LordoftheRings]

What kind of people on Earth!

Florida man and his sons charged with selling toxic chemical as a coronavirus cure to thousands

[Kaiju]

Of course it begins with "Florida man"

[LordoftheRings]

What is it with Florida; people like to get high?

* http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...r10-story.html

Florida (origin)

The name comes from the daring adventurer Juan Ponce de Leon, who accidentally stumbled upon the Florida peninsula during a search to find the legendary "Fountain of Youth."

The year was 1513. Ponce de Leon was searching for gold and the "fountain of youth" -- a legendary spring that gave people eternal life and health. He sailed from Puerto Rico on March 3 with three ships, the Santa Maria, the Santiago, and the San Cristobal, and about 200 men. After stops at Grand Turk Island and San Salvador, they reached the east coast of Florida, near St. Augustine.

Ponce de Leon claimed the land for Spain, calling it La Florida, the Spanish name for flowery, covered with flowers, or abounding in flowers. Something to do with flowers anyway.

Makes sense to me. Seems like the aromatic combination of orange blossoms and pollen in the air would have led him here.

Some historians think Ponce de Leon chose the name because his arrival in Florida occurred at the time of the Easter feast (in Spanish, Pascua Florida).

By the way, Ponce de Leon never did find the youth-restoring fountain. In 1521, he returned to Charlotte Harbor to attempt a colony. That didn't turn out so well. Some American Indians attacked his search party. He was wounded and returned to Cuba, where he died. He is buried in San Juan, Puerto Rico.

[veritas]

https://www.boston.com/news/coronavi...arty-australia

On one hand its going pretty horribly in the usa but this sort of enforcement feels like a step to far to me. Also imo it doesn't sound like it would be that effective at stopping corona virus compared to how much it probably just pisses people off.

I cant really decide which is worse Americas handling of the corona virus or these types of draconian actions taken in Australia.

[MifuneFan]

Don't really see it as draconian at all. People use that term way too much, it loses its meaning. They have to pay fines? Boo ****ing hoo. Draconian is locking them up in jail for a year for this. Australia is handling this worlds better than America ever has, and probably ever will, so I see absolutely nothing wrong with this.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by veritas

https://www.boston.com/news/coronavi...arty-australia

On one hand its going pretty horribly in the usa but this sort of enforcement feels like a step to far to me. Also imo it doesn't sound like it would be that effective at stopping corona virus compared to how much it probably just pisses people off.

I cant really decide which is worse Americas handling of the corona virus or these types of draconian actions taken in Australia.

Lack of enforcement is why the virus is running wild in the US. There’s too many selfish/ignorant people putting the public at risk with no consequences.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

Lack of enforcement is why the virus is running wild in the US. There’s too many selfish/ignorant people putting the public at risk with no consequences.

I blame Chy-na!

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by veritas

https://www.boston.com/news/coronavi...arty-australia

On one hand its going pretty horribly in the usa but this sort of enforcement feels like a step to far to me. Also imo it doesn't sound like it would be that effective at stopping corona virus compared to how much it probably just pisses people off.

I cant really decide which is worse Americas handling of the corona virus or these types of draconian actions taken in Australia.

so let me get this straight you can't tell what is worst, dumb people getting fined because they decided to brake the law in an insane way or people dying because others value partying more?

just to put it in perspective https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...-bar-1.5638656

my niece was not at the house party but she was at the bar that day (and on Wednesday tested positive)

Yes the fines are excessive but some people need such crazy deterrents to make them think twice.

[LordoftheRings]

Wow, $26,000 is a lot of fried chicken for 16 starving partygoers.
That sounds . . . suspicious fô shüre.