Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[bruceames]

Saying you don't have to test as often doesn't have to be political. With cases going down, about half of what they were 6 weeks ago, there obviously will be less cause to test and less testing as a result.

[noone13]

I got the back payment on unemployment for the $300 a week extra. Then got a message saying the money has run out and that will be the end of the bonus. 6 weeks was the max it lasted I guess. Pretty much sucks because what I get without any extra is not enough to do anything with. I know someone will say get a job but trust me it isn't easy around here. Plus I have an auto immune disease so I am trying to be careful where I apply. Anyway just a heads up in case anyone else was waiting on that $300 benefit.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

hunker down

because this fight is far from over:

Dr. Fauci warns to ‘hunker down’ this fall amid rise in cases l GMA - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by AFFanAttic

I'm out

stick around , as there is unbiased material (without spin) presented, e.g.
new CDC report and more from JAMA regarding age 18-34 year old’s and coronavirus….

New evidence shows young children can transmit COVID-19 - YouTube

[deckard82]

Originally Posted by bruceames

The U.S., even now with cases reduced by half from it peak in late July (7 day average just under 36,000), still leads the world in daily tests per 100k population. But I guess that's not good enough for some people.

And that is because it's necessary because of the still huge amount of daily cases. That's when you want to increase testing. Yes there are places in the world where less testing is done but that's because they have the spread under better control. And where you have huge spikes, testing needs to be increased now to get the situation under control or make it managable before the flu season starts. Go into that with 40,000 cases per day and shit's really going to hit the fan.

[CyberpunkCentral]

I don't know. People are starting to act like things are going back to normal. I'm like **** it at this point. I will still be careful out there, but **** it.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by deckard82

And that is because it's necessary because of the still huge amount of daily cases. That's when you want to increase testing. Yes there are places in the world where less testing is done but that's because they have the spread under better control. And where you have huge spikes, testing needs to be increased now to get the situation under control or make it managable before the flu season starts. Go into that with 40,000 cases per day and shit's really going to hit the fan.

Everywhere in the world has less testing per capita, so no one can say we're not testing enough. And again, testing has gone down, but just slightly, while cases have gone down by half.

You're just going to get less testing when there is less cause to test. Unless you advocate for mandatory testing, but then that can't be discussed here.

[bruceames]

Countries with the biggest spikes in the last week.

[bruceames]

Top 30 countries with highest daily cases per 100,000.

[bruceames]

Daily U.S. cases: 7 day moving average at 35,600, down 48.7% from the peak of 69,336 on July 26.

There is nothing to indicate that the downward trend will not continue into the next month or even into November.





U.S. daily deaths at 758, 7 day average:

[bruceames]

States ranks by daily cases per 100,000, worst to first. Change column is the difference from last week.

Note that Florida is 20th, Texas 23th and California even better at 36th.

[Batman1980]

LOL Vermont doesn't even have a number. How is New York 48th?

[Penton-Man]

cripes, between the COVID and the smoke from the climate fires - https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...ornia/2425977/
now all we need here in SoCal are locusts and impaired student logic –

The College COVID-19 Problem: The Plan Vs. Student Behavior | All In | MSNBC - YouTube

P.S.
finished my bike ride this a.m. wearing an N-95 during the entire ride due to the smoke.....man, it was difficult to maintain my normal pace

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

finished my bike ride this a.m. wearing an N-95 during the entire ride due to the smoke.....man, it was difficult to maintain my normal pace

Same here. Did my last 2 runs with the N95 on the whole time. Slowed my pace down about 45 seconds per mile, but starting to get used to it.

It was either that or the dreadmill and that sounded even less appealing. I don't mind restricted airflow as much as being incredibly bored.

The nice thing though is that I don't have to worry about putting it on when I see somebody...but then again I only saw one person. Who wants to be out there in that smoke anyway?

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

I don't know. People are starting to act like things are going back to normal. I'm like **** it at this point. I will still be careful out there, but **** it.

That's why we're going to have a bad winter.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by mar3o

That's why we're going to have a bad winter.

I'm not so sure. For one thing, I think cases will continue to fall significantly before flu season hits, and second, there will be population immunity built up in the most vulnerable location that will protect against another strong surge in cases nationwide.

Finally, the assumption seems to be that we'll have a normal flu season, but will we? After all, the same mitigation measures used with covid are exactly those we would use against the flu. The decrease in flu cases and deaths from it, may be significant enough that it will offset the covid ones, resulting in no excess deaths or even a decrease.

[MrHT]

Dr. Anthony Fauci Says U.S. Will Not Return to ‘Complete Normality’ Until Fall 2021

https://www.kabc.com/2020/09/09/fauc...y-predictions/

That's actually sooner than I expected. I was expecting to return to normalcy around mid-2022. So Fall 2021 is actually great news to me.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Dr. Anthony Fauci Says U.S. Will Not Return to ‘Complete Normality’ Until Fall 2021

https://www.kabc.com/2020/09/09/fauc...y-predictions/

That's actually sooner than I expected. I was expecting to return to normalcy around mid-2022. So Fall 2021 is actually great news to me.

That would be great if his prediction is true, especially if he said "complete" normality. I'll certainly take Fall 2021. He must be confident of the upcoming vaccines wiping out the virus.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Dr. Anthony Fauci Says U.S. Will Not Return to ‘Complete Normality’ Until Fall 2021

https://www.kabc.com/2020/09/09/fauc...y-predictions/

That's actually sooner than I expected. I was expecting to return to normalcy around mid-2022. So Fall 2021 is actually great news to me.

that ^ website misquoted him a bit, so it may be best to temper one’s expectations
This is actually what he said to Andrea Mitchell –

Coronavirus infections among young people rapidly increasing - YouTube

Once I tore all 4 muscles of my rotator cuff going over the bars during a bicycle race. After surgeries it took over a year for me to reach *a degree of normality resembling my functioning prior to the crash* and quite a bit longer to what can be described as close to “complete normalcy” due to complications.

And if going to the theater maskless is considered a degree of normality, in reference to that Tony also said in another recent interview -

“I think it’s going to be a combination of a vaccine that’s been around for about a year and good public health measures. I would think that by the time we get to the end of 2021 or even the middle of 2021, if we get a vaccine that’s a knockout vaccine that’s 85% to 90% effective — I don’t think we’ll get that, I’ll settle for 70% effective – [but] if we get a really good vaccine and just about everybody gets vaccinated, you’ll have a degree of immunity in the general community that I think you can walk into a theater without a mask and feel like it’s comfortable that you aren’t going to be at risk.”
(^ bolding mine)

So, not to waffle, but it’s complicated as there are caveats to the mid to late 2021 normality prediction.

[mar3o]

The problem is a sizeable portion of the US population will not take the vaccine. You already have the nuts who refuse vaccines in general, then you factor in the ones who aren't anti-vax but have hesitations about the safety of any COVID vaccine thanks to various "pressures" and fear of rushing it out, combined with irresponsible click-bait headlines, and I doubt the vaccine will be nearly as effective as we are hooping for, not due to the vaccine itself, but due to not enough people taking it to help with herd immunity. If I take it, and the vaccine is 70% effective, then I have 70% immunity, generally speaking. But if everyone I come into contact with has also gotten the vaccine, then my immunity increases past 70% since others are also at 70%, making each encounter I have more unlikely to spread it to begin with. That's how herd immunity works.