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Old 09-16-2015, 02:35 AM   #3701
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IIRC Iron Man was actually mastered with the DRC flag on or whatever the techsplanation was, so it triggered the DRC on people's gear if DRC was set to Auto instead of Off. DTS has no such thing, or so I've heard it said.

Yes, which is why other companies had to come up with all sorts of volume normalizing things, because DTS' never realized some people just can't listen to everything at theatrical levels. Or maybe they don't have a surround system and just TV speakers. Or laptop speakers. Or something.

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Don't forget the issues with things like Total Recall

Chipset issue, not a TrueHD issue. Unlike the "DTS Bomb" which could actually damage systems. Destroy The Speakers some called it. They actually had to alter the codec because of that.
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Old 09-16-2015, 06:17 AM   #3702
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"In a special limited-time offer this fall, customers who purchase a compatible Sony 4K Ultra HDTV will receive up to $100 of HDR content including blockbuster movies The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Men in Black 3, After Earth and Fury, from SPHE through the Amazon Video app.

In addition to the previously announced X930C and X940C models, Sony is also adding HDR compatibility to the X850C, X900C and X910C models via a network update, available soon. HDR reproduces a greater dynamic range of luminosity or brightness levels, bringing greater contrast to the screen."

read:http://www.homemediamagazine.com/hig...ic-range-36657
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Old 09-16-2015, 11:09 AM   #3703
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Sony pushing their streaming HDR option? Who'da thunk it?
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Old 09-16-2015, 11:36 AM   #3704
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So that's it then? Freaky's gonna get his 12-bits? He's gon' be so happy. There aren't many consumer displays on the market that will actually do 12-bit, but that's for another day. You win this round! *shakes fist*
I never really got why you thought 12-bit displays are rare. Everytime I turn on my tv, there it is.. Resolution/12-bit displayed.. along with the time.
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:50 PM   #3705
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I never really got why you thought 12-bit displays are rare. Everytime I turn on my tv, there it is.. Resolution/12-bit displayed.. along with the time.
Right, because input bit depth is the same as what the panel is actually natively displaying (which have been mostly 8-bit and 8-bit + Hi-FRC these past few years AFAIK). Don't make me bust out the rolleyes smiley.
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Old 09-16-2015, 02:23 PM   #3706
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Yesterday I finally ran an HDMI cable from my office to my living room and hooked up my PC to my 4K tv.

I queued up a few videos on Youtube in 4K and holy crap they looked amazing.

Just for curiosity's sake I toggled between 4K and 1080p versions of the same videos on the same frame, and wow. If you do that and say you DON'T see a difference, you need to get your eyes checked.

So yeah, I was a 4K homer before, but I'm a 110% fanboi now.
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Old 09-16-2015, 06:21 PM   #3707
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"In a special limited-time offer this fall, customers who purchase a compatible Sony 4K Ultra HDTV will receive up to $100 of HDR content including blockbuster movies The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Men in Black 3, After Earth and Fury, from SPHE through the Amazon Video app.

In addition to the previously announced X930C and X940C models, Sony is also adding HDR compatibility to the X850C, X900C and X910C models via a network update, available soon. HDR reproduces a greater dynamic range of luminosity or brightness levels, bringing greater contrast to the screen."

read:http://www.homemediamagazine.com/hig...ic-range-36657
The Amazon app is 1080p in the UK

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But it can be fun trying ....https://blog.sony.com/press/31617/
Who says I have to update the set.....

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Yes, which is why other companies had to come up with all sorts of volume normalizing things, because DTS' never realized some people just can't listen to everything at theatrical levels. Or maybe they don't have a surround system and just TV speakers. Or laptop speakers. Or something.




Chipset issue, not a TrueHD issue. Unlike the "DTS Bomb" which could actually damage systems. Destroy The Speakers some called it. They actually had to alter the codec because of that.
On the defence?
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Old 09-16-2015, 06:46 PM   #3708
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What, have you finally bought the TV then?
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Old 09-16-2015, 07:40 PM   #3709
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What, have you finally bought the TV then?
End of the month if the new job pays right, it just went down £300 also....
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Old 09-16-2015, 08:06 PM   #3710
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I queued up a few videos on Youtube in 4K and holy crap they looked amazing.
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So yeah, I was a 4K homer before, but I'm a 110% fanboi now.

I'm actually a 4K fanboy too. I'm extremely impressed with the images I see demo'd.

However, the problem still remains in the title of this thread. This isn't about 4K TVs. It's about 4K Blu-ray.

I don't know how anybody could NOT be impressed by 4K images. I just remain extremely skeptical about anybody's commitment to 4K as a disc format. I'm primarily a buyer of catalogue and deep catalogue titles. Kino, Olive and Shout/Scream are getting most of my money. The big studio titles I purchase are mostly pre-1970 catalogue. I need to see some kind of commitment to those kinds of titles because I have no interest in a format built on the kinds of things Fox has announced (but I know it's still early).

So it is possible to be a 4K TV fanboy and a 4k Blu-ray skeptic.
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Old 09-16-2015, 08:14 PM   #3711
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I'm actually a 4K fanboy too. I'm extremely impressed with the images I see demo'd.

However, the problem still remains in the title of this thread. This isn't about 4K TVs. It's about 4K Blu-ray.

I don't know how anybody could NOT be impressed by 4K images. I just remain extremely skeptical about anybody's commitment to 4K as a disc format. I'm primarily a buyer of catalogue and deep catalogue titles. Kino, Olive and Shout/Scream are getting most of my money. The big studio titles I purchase are mostly pre-1970 catalogue. I need to see some kind of commitment to those kinds of titles because I have no interest in a format built on the kinds of things Fox has announced (but I know it's still early).

So it is possible to be a 4K TV fanboy and a 4k Blu-ray skeptic.
Indeed since the only announced UHD discs are non 4k
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Old 09-16-2015, 08:23 PM   #3712
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Right, because input bit depth is the same as what the panel is actually natively displaying (which have been mostly 8-bit and 8-bit + Hi-FRC these past few years AFAIK). Don't make me bust out the rolleyes smiley.


I hadn't seen anything higher displayed. So the TV is then "natively" lying to me.
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Old 09-16-2015, 08:38 PM   #3713
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End of the month if the new job pays right, it just went down £300 also....
If you ever actually buy one, then you can brag
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Old 09-16-2015, 08:43 PM   #3714
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I hadn't seen anything higher displayed. So the TV is then "natively" lying to me.
Again, the signal that the TV receives isn't the same as what it's actually giving you, Blu-ray players have been capable of outputting 12-bit (even 14-bit in the case of some Sony's) for years, though even then it's oversampled from the 8-bit signal that's actually encoded onto BD/DVD.
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Old 09-16-2015, 09:04 PM   #3715
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If you ever actually buy one, then you can brag
Well at least you have the nice speakers to drown out the picture features yours is lacking...
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Old 09-16-2015, 09:09 PM   #3716
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I am more excited about the press saying that 4k players will be able to play SACDs & DVD-A discs than I am about them playing actual 4k content.

I've been wanting a good universal player for a long time, but the price of Oppo players are obscene.
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Old 09-16-2015, 09:19 PM   #3717
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I am more excited about the press saying that 4k players will be able to play SACDs & DVD-A discs than I am about them playing actual 4k content.

I've been wanting a good universal player for a long time, but the price of Oppo players are obscene.
I would imagine that Oppo will continue to be one of the only truly universal players around and that they will still remain extremely pricey for what you actually get.
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I would imagine that Oppo will continue to be one of the only truly universal players around and that they will still remain extremely pricey for what you actually get.
Pioneer are likely to also
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Pioneer are likely to also
That depends on their parent company, Onkyo.
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That depends on their parent company, Onkyo.
Ugh, don't remind me
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