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Old 12-13-2024, 08:51 PM   #701
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The Ivan Ooze comparisons are said to be insults, but they show the weakness of those who use them..............

But in all seriousness, does it look any less outlandish than a guy in a Rhino suit. And I mean an actual suit, not that half-assed Mech nonsense. Also, the whole purple look only really comes from the weird tint the right pic has. The left one looks fine and grey. And the overall face looks well integrated with the rest unlike say Corey Stall getting CTRL-Vd on a CG model.

[Show spoiler]and damn it, CBMs should be more like Tokusatsu than grounded crap.
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The Ivan Ooze comparisons are said to be insults, but they show the weakness of those who use them..............

But in all seriousness, does it look any less outlandish than a guy in a Rhino suit. And I mean an actual suit, not that half-assed Mech nonsense. Also, the whole purple look only really comes from the weird tint the right pic has. The left one looks fine and grey. And the overall face looks well integrated with the rest unlike say Corey Stall getting CTRL-Vd on a CG model.

[Show spoiler]and damn it, CBMs should be more like Tokusatsu than grounded crap.
It was funny when it was Apocalypse and it is funny now. Loosen up it is not serious.

They should have painted him green.

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Everyone tries to bring up Ivan Ooze as an insult when it was practical effects done right. He still looks good to this day. The CGI Ninja Megazord on the other hand....

More people should realize the brilliance of Toku.

Anyway, I saw Kraven last night as well. It's certainly better than Madame Web. Not a high bar to clear though. I thought it was ok. 5/10 feels right. Main issues are that it's too long and the dialogue wasn't great. I thought Rhino's CGI looked fine for what we got. He should have been taller though.
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Old 12-13-2024, 09:07 PM   #704
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Thank God they're not making more of these.

Wow, this was bad.
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Everyone tries to bring up Ivan Ooze as an insult when it was practical effects done right. He still looks good to this day. The CGI Ninja Megazord on the other hand....

More people should realize the brilliance of Toku.

Anyway, I saw Kraven last night as well. It's certainly better than Madame Web. Not a high bar to clear though. I thought it was ok. 5/10 feels right. Main issues are that it's too long and the dialogue wasn't great. I thought Rhino's CGI looked fine for what we got. He should have been taller though.
This is part of the problem with the look of Rhino. Not just the appearance but his size. He should be much larger then Kraven.
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Everyone tries to bring up Ivan Ooze as an insult when it was practical effects done right. He still looks good to this day. The CGI Ninja Megazord on the other hand....

More people should realize the brilliance of Toku.

Anyway, I saw Kraven last night as well. It's certainly better than Madame Web. Not a high bar to clear though. I thought it was ok. 5/10 feels right. Main issues are that it's too long and the dialogue wasn't great. I thought Rhino's CGI looked fine for what we got. He should have been taller though.
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Thank God they're not making more of these.

Wow, this was bad.
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Saw it yesterday.
I already spoiled myself with the 8 minute opening on youtube.
I went in thinking it would be another Madame Web or Morbius, I haven't seen both yet, so I couldn't compare, but if this is the trilogy of bad Sony/Marvel movies this probably will rank as the number one of the three.
Russell Crowe's heavy voice with Russian accent was fantastic and the first half was kind of interesting, but overly long... as was the movie. They should have chopped off 20-25 minutes of this.

And it was good to see Pollux Troy again in a major blockbuster

Can't say much about the movie, only to think of this as generic stuff. I'll probably won't watch this again... ever.

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I think it might be the worst of the Sony live action spin offs, and really the first Venom was the only one I liked (Last Dance was okay but had some really bad stuff too). The bad visual effects and ADR that people bring up with Madame Web are even worse here, and unlike the other spin offs which tended to be short and campy at least, this often seems to try and go for a more serious tone for some reason, and is too long with some awful pacing (the big flashback/origin after the opening seems to go on forever, and it has like 4 endings after the action wraps up). The acting was awful too, surprising given the cast and how good the director was with actors before. The R rating is cool, but honestly the violence still doesn’t have great impact and the coolest kills are cut away from really fast.
Thanks for the early reviews.
I wonder if the action in the movie helps it out, being mostly an action movie? Or does it not have much action at all?
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Old 12-13-2024, 09:31 PM   #707
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This is part of the problem with the look of Rhino. Not just the appearance but his size. He should be much larger then Kraven.
I mean Rhino was around the same size as 5' 3" Spider-Man back in the first comics. They only boosted up the size later on:

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I mean Rhino was around the same size as 5' 3" Spider-Man back in the first comics. They only boosted up the size later on:

Yah, the first comics.

It's cool man. I get it. You love the film.
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This is part of the problem with the look of Rhino. Not just the appearance but his size. He should be much larger then Kraven.
Fully agreed.

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Thanks for the early reviews.
I wonder if the action in the movie helps it out, being mostly an action movie? Or does it not have much action at all?
I'd say the action is certainly the bulk of enjoyable parts. I think it has enough in it.
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Old 12-13-2024, 10:04 PM   #710
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Yah, the first comics.

It's cool man. I get it. You love the film.
The comics from the start to around the 90s. They only made him much larger around the 00s.

I'm just saying it's not like Corey Stall's CTRL-Vd face like so many other say it is.
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Old 12-13-2024, 10:21 PM   #711
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Inside “tanking” ala Joker 2 by the director is what this smells like.
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Fully agreed.



I'd say the action is certainly the bulk of enjoyable parts. I think it has enough in it.
Thanks. That's good to hear it's not a drought of action like some action movies can be. I heard the car chase scene was good.
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Inside “tanking” ala Joker 2 by the director is what this smells like.
I heard that there were more ADR issues. So possibly more changes by the studio.
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Old 12-14-2024, 01:21 AM   #714
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What a horrendous piece of shit.
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Old 12-14-2024, 01:23 AM   #715
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This was better than the last Venom movie.
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Old 12-14-2024, 03:27 AM   #716
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C cinemascore, lowest for a Sony comic book movie and only Fantastic Four 2015 and Joker 2 have scored lower (Virus, Superman 4, Hellboy 2019 also have a C to give an idea of the company it is in).
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This was better than the last Venom movie.
I figured it would be but a turd is still a turd even if it's more solid.
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I saw Kraven the Hunter today in Dolby Cinema. What a dumpster fire. Sony is in a race with itself to make the worst comic-book movies. How is it possible these are so bad? It’s like the scripts are out of the 90’s and they got the worst actors possible. Rhino was laughably bad. I genuinely would rather have had TASM Rhino back.

I don’t know anything about this character and still don’t. The only interesting character was The Foreigner and he was ended in a lazy way.

How can Sony make the SM1/2, TASM 1 & this? Venom 1 had to simply be a fluke (Wasn’t great but was fun).

Just mediocre in every single area. I also kinda noticed these Sony movies visually look like each other. The color grading or something.

I still think the worst ‘comic-book’ movie this year is Joker 2, simply because of how drastic the decrease was from the first one, but these Sony movies are just horrible.

3/10

The absolute best part of this theater experience had to be the first time I’ve ever had flawless timing. Saw 2 movies today and sat down in each one about 10 seconds before the very first frame. Zero trailers or any other nonsense in either show. Excellent.
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Old 12-14-2024, 06:16 AM   #719
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Has there been any director who has made it through the Sony grinder? Even Raimi didn't get Scott free with Spider-Man 3 getting ****ed with the studio notes on the villains etc.
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Old 12-14-2024, 12:50 PM   #720
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C CinemaScore?



Okay, be honest with me...

Does this suck?
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