Bitstream Pops On Harold & Kumar! - Blu-ray Forum

aqupunk · 07-30-2008, 04:58 PM

Ok watched Harold and Kumar 2 last night pretty funny, but got a total of 12 bitstream bombs on my onkyo reciever. Now I have never had this happen before, and it is fairly new onkyo 805 I bought it in April so i know about the firmware update. Anyone else watch it and experience this by bitstreaming the audio to your reciever?

ClaytonMG · 07-30-2008, 04:59 PM

You know about the firmware upgrade or you have the firmware upgrade installed?

sinister184 · 07-30-2008, 05:09 PM

what firmware do you have?

Woody · 07-30-2008, 05:12 PM

The "bomb" is corrected by a DSP update, not a FW update FYI.

Very helpful thread here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1016297

aqupunk · 07-30-2008, 05:18 PM

I dunno what firmware or dsp I'm running but like I said it is only 3 months old and its never done it on any disk before even ones that I read on the forum that had it.

jingoboy_78 · 07-30-2008, 05:25 PM

Well, may be you have to check the manufacture date.Might be a old stock so that you might have to do the DSP update.
I bought my 805 in March and still it has the DTSHDMA bomb..I use my ps3 to play the DTSHDMA discs..which is not a permanent solution.I am too lazy to update it

..anyways I guess its time now!

Woody · 07-30-2008, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aqupunk

I dunno what firmware or dsp I'm running but like I said it is only 3 months old and its never done it on any disk before even ones that I read on the forum that had it.

The thread I linked showed the corrected DSP numbers, and how to check them. It will literally take you 30 seconds to see what DSP you are running and see if you have the old one.

CCTM2000 · 08-10-2008, 11:47 AM

Just to add more credibility to the bitstream bomb issue. I am watching it now on PS3 via HDMI PCM to a $13,000.00 Crestron system. I am getting the bombs sporadically as well. I see the primary receivers have been Onkyo here, but just letting you know the high price ones get hit too.

hc666 · 08-11-2008, 01:38 AM

Ok I watched and listened to this and the audio pops are not that bad.

They were way worse on The FLy, they scared the hell out of me on that bluray.

This time, it happens a bit but nothing to worry about as far as ruining your equipment.

Annoying that they are there... yes... dangerous.. no.

jkwest · 08-15-2008, 02:51 PM

this is the first movie that I have seen that has had it...

kind of annoying, but, not damaging like the other films were...

First movie I have ever seen that had a threesome with a bag of pot...wow...

kylen · 08-18-2008, 08:46 PM

I got the repeatable pops on PS3 using LPCM, 2.42 firmware and upgraded firmware on Onkyo 705. I did not see this issue with HK1. Like someone else posted, these were around the branches.

What is the issue with Die Hard 2? I watched that before the PS3 had DTS-MA via LPCM.

Boss Hogg · 08-26-2008, 12:54 AM

Just watched the H&C Escape From Gitmo -- this is far and away the most rediculously bad transfer I've ever seen. The video quality isn't bad but the audio is absolutely terrible! The dialogue was a bit behind the picture the entire movie and there was nasty popping every 30 minutes or so. Can't believe transfers like this happen on a technology that is this mature.

The Guilty Party · 08-26-2008, 12:56 AM

I suspect that this might just be your copy. I rented it off of NetFlix and didn't have either of those issues. That said, I was still disappointed in the film itself.

Boss Hogg · 08-26-2008, 12:58 AM

Hm...very strange. My copy is also from Netflix and the disc itself appears to be in good shape. Just the audio is amazingly bad. I don't understand how that can happen.

djluis2k6 · 08-26-2008, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boss Hogg

Just watched the H&C Escape From Gitmo -- this is far and away the most rediculously bad transfer I've ever seen. The video quality isn't bad but the audio is absolutely terrible! The dialogue was a bit behind the picture the entire movie and there was nasty popping every 30 minutes or so. Can't believe transfers like this happen on a technology that is this mature.

This wasn't a transfer, it was actually shot in HD.

ClaytonMG · 08-26-2008, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boss Hogg

Just watched the H&C Escape From Gitmo -- this is far and away the most rediculously bad transfer I've ever seen. The video quality isn't bad but the audio is absolutely terrible! The dialogue was a bit behind the picture the entire movie and there was nasty popping every 30 minutes or so. Can't believe transfers like this happen on a technology that is this mature.

You and I must've been watching 2 different movies. Mine looked and sounded fine...

cembros · 08-26-2008, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boss Hogg

Just watched the H&C Escape From Gitmo -- this is far and away the most rediculously bad transfer I've ever seen. The video quality isn't bad but the audio is absolutely terrible! The dialogue was a bit behind the picture the entire movie and there was nasty popping every 30 minutes or so. Can't believe transfers like this happen on a technology that is this mature.

what kind of receiver do you have, sounds like the dts hdma bomb, thats what the pop is, dont know to much about it myself but i do know that there is an issue with some discs sending dtshdma via bitstream

Sith · 08-26-2008, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cembros

what kind of receiver do you have, sounds like the dts hdma bomb, thats what the pop is, dont know to much about it myself but i do know that there is an issue with some discs sending dtshdma via bitstream

I would recommend not playing the lossless audio track of this blu ray....
I had popping thru my ps3 and it was not cool...

zweet77 · 08-26-2008, 01:17 AM

Yeah the audio was the sux I think newer copies might be ok though because some people say the have no problems.

Sith · 08-26-2008, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zweet77

Yeah the audio was the sux I think newer copies might be ok though because some people say the have no problems.

i don't think there's a problem with the regular 5.1 track....but alot of people
of commented about the popping in the lossless track...And i for sure know
this is the only blu ray that's ever this thru my ps3 since the dtshdma update.

07-30-2008, 04:58 PM	#1
aqupunk Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007 Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:54 Blu-ray collection:246 Trading Score:1	Bitstream Pops On Harold & Kumar! Ok watched Harold and Kumar 2 last night pretty funny, but got a total of 12 bitstream bombs on my onkyo reciever. Now I have never had this happen before, and it is fairly new onkyo 805 I bought it in April so i know about the firmware update. Anyone else watch it and experience this by bitstreaming the audio to your reciever?

07-30-2008, 05:09 PM	#3
sinister184 Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:FL, USA Home Theater Gallery:4 4K collection:52 Blu-ray collection:593 Blu-ray reviews:7 Trading Score:17	what firmware do you have? Last edited by sinister184; 07-30-2008 at 05:19 PM.

08-26-2008, 12:54 AM	#12
Boss Hogg Active Member Member since:Dec 2006	Harold and Kumar - you've got to be kidding Just watched the H&C Escape From Gitmo -- this is far and away the most rediculously bad transfer I've ever seen. The video quality isn't bad but the audio is absolutely terrible! The dialogue was a bit behind the picture the entire movie and there was nasty popping every 30 minutes or so. Can't believe transfers like this happen on a technology that is this mature.

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07-30-2008, 04:59 PM	#2
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:839 Blu-ray collection:2379 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	You know about the firmware upgrade or you have the firmware upgrade installed?

07-30-2008, 05:12 PM	#4
Woody Power Member Member since:Jun 2007 Home Theater Gallery:60 4K collection:175 Blu-ray collection:415 DVD collection:165	The "bomb" is corrected by a DSP update, not a FW update FYI. Very helpful thread here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1016297

07-30-2008, 05:18 PM	#5
aqupunk Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007 Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:54 Blu-ray collection:246 Trading Score:1	I dunno what firmware or dsp I'm running but like I said it is only 3 months old and its never done it on any disk before even ones that I read on the forum that had it.

07-30-2008, 05:25 PM	#6
jingoboy_78 Active Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:TX Blu-ray collection:15	Well, may be you have to check the manufacture date.Might be a old stock so that you might have to do the DSP update. I bought my 805 in March and still it has the DTSHDMA bomb..I use my ps3 to play the DTSHDMA discs..which is not a permanent solution.I am too lazy to update it ..anyways I guess its time now!

08-10-2008, 11:47 AM	#8
CCTM2000 Member Member since:Apr 2008	Just to add more credibility to the bitstream bomb issue. I am watching it now on PS3 via HDMI PCM to a $13,000.00 Crestron system. I am getting the bombs sporadically as well. I see the primary receivers have been Onkyo here, but just letting you know the high price ones get hit too.

08-11-2008, 01:38 AM	#9
hc666 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2007 Home Theater Gallery:7 Blu-ray collection:100 Blu-ray reviews: 26	Ok I watched and listened to this and the audio pops are not that bad. They were way worse on The FLy, they scared the hell out of me on that bluray. This time, it happens a bit but nothing to worry about as far as ruining your equipment. Annoying that they are there... yes... dangerous.. no.

08-15-2008, 02:51 PM	#10
jkwest Off-Topic King Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Northern California PSN Id: jkwest5 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:20	this is the first movie that I have seen that has had it... kind of annoying, but, not damaging like the other films were... First movie I have ever seen that had a threesome with a bag of pot...wow...

08-18-2008, 08:46 PM	#11
kylen Junior Member Member since:Nov 2007	I got the repeatable pops on PS3 using LPCM, 2.42 firmware and upgraded firmware on Onkyo 705. I did not see this issue with HK1. Like someone else posted, these were around the branches. What is the issue with Die Hard 2? I watched that before the PS3 had DTS-MA via LPCM.

08-26-2008, 12:56 AM	#13
The Guilty Party Active Member Member since:May 2008 Location:Zoo Jersey Blu-ray collection:119	I suspect that this might just be your copy. I rented it off of NetFlix and didn't have either of those issues. That said, I was still disappointed in the film itself.

08-26-2008, 12:58 AM	#14
Boss Hogg Active Member Member since:Dec 2006	Hm...very strange. My copy is also from Netflix and the disc itself appears to be in good shape. Just the audio is amazingly bad. I don't understand how that can happen.

08-26-2008, 01:17 AM	#19
zweet77 Senior Member Member since:Apr 2008 Location:San Francisco Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:129 Blu-ray reviews:7	Yeah the audio was the sux I think newer copies might be ok though because some people say the have no problems.

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