Black Panther 4K UHD (2018)

[birdztudio]

expecting to turn up the volume to -00DB lol

[KcMsterpce]

Originally Posted by birdztudio

expecting to turn up the volume to -00DB lol

Pretty much. I will wager that this movie won't be as bad as Thor: Ragnarok and other titles, but will likely sound lean/thin. However, if TLJ is any indication, there may be some LFE presence, and some "ok" surround activity. Kick it up another 10-15 points on the volume meter.
It could still have that hollow feeling while listening, though. That sensation of unfulfillment; much like how I recall my parents trying to describe their life with me when I was young.

[Indiana Jones]

Originally Posted by KcMsterpce

Pretty much. I will wager that this movie won't be as bad as Thor: Ragnarok and other titles, but will likely sound lean/thin. However, if TLJ is any indication, there may be some LFE presence, and some "ok" surround activity. Kick it up another 10-15 points on the volume meter.
It could still have that hollow feeling while listening, though. That sensation of unfulfillment; much like how I recall my parents trying to describe their life with me when I was young.

I watched the BD the other night so only the DTS track but the flaws with the Thor Atmos track were also present in the DTS track so think its a safe bet the same will be true here and its certainly no repeat of Thor which just felt flat for most of it (improved towards the end), Black Panther right from the beginning has LFE presence which is a good sign but it has been mixed lower so needs turning up but once I did that I thought it sounded very good.

[Pieter V]

Review:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/item/black-panther-uhd

[xfileed916]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Review:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/item/black-panther-uhd

He notes that the audio suffers the same quietness issue as all the other Disney releases as of late. Why does Disney keep putting out these neutered audio mixes?!?

[krismate]

Originally Posted by xfileed916

He notes that the audio suffers the same quietness issue as all the other Disney releases as of late. Why does Disney keep putting out these neutered audio mixes?!?

That's the big question. Most assume the dynamic range compression is to cater to soundbars and other non-HT sound systems. What's most frustrating, though, is they include a 7.1 DD+ track that they could compress for soundbars etc. and even make the default track, for the people who don't know about this stuff. And then have the atmos track explosive but it is not currently Disney's way :/

[Legend293]

I thought best buy did free shipping for pre orders over 25 bucks what happended to that was gonna try to order black panther steelbook and see if it i got it ealry

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by Indiana Jones

I watched the BD the other night so only the DTS track but the flaws with the Thor Atmos track were also present in the DTS track so think its a safe bet the same will be true here and its certainly no repeat of Thor which just felt flat for most of it (improved towards the end), Black Panther right from the beginning has LFE presence which is a good sign but it has been mixed lower so needs turning up but once I did that I thought it sounded very good.

How did you watch the BD before release date?

[Talal86]

Originally Posted by xfileed916

He notes that the audio suffers the same quietness issue as all the other Disney releases as of late. Why does Disney keep putting out these neutered audio mixes?!?

a reason to double dip maybe

[rexcrk]

Originally Posted by beware

Damn, they released this sucker quick!

Eh.. three months is pretty much the norm these days. Thank goodness.

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[InuYashaCrusade]

Originally Posted by Legend293

I thought best buy did free shipping for pre orders over 25 bucks what happended to that was gonna try to order black panther steelbook and see if it i got it ealry

It has been over $35 for a while now, at least a few months.

[Legend293]

Originally Posted by InuYashaCrusade

It has been over $35 for a while now, at least a few months.

Thanks and i guess the steelbooks doesnt make the cut being a penny short lol. Also anyone know when bestbuy starts to ship their movies out thinking of pre ordered this tuesday or try my luck on amazon when the order goes live

[Elbie]

Hopefully I get lucky with Target and I get it in the mail on release date. I have my doubts. I got God of War early, so anything is possible. lol

[RockyIII]

Got mine scheduled for pick up on release date at my local Best Buy

[r9800pro]

Originally Posted by xfileed916

He notes that the audio suffers the same quietness issue as all the other Disney releases as of late. Why does Disney keep putting out these neutered audio mixes?!?

Originally Posted by krismate

That's the big question. Most assume the dynamic range compression is to cater to soundbars and other non-HT sound systems. What's most frustrating, though, is they include a 7.1 DD+ track that they could compress for soundbars etc. and even make the default track, for the people who don't know about this stuff. And then have the atmos track explosive but it is not currently Disney's way :/

Some people in the past thought this is with Disney home releases but I found Black Panther cinema release suffers the exact same audio issues.

I also thought Disney is doing this intentionally with DTS-HD MA 7.1 tracks so that when UHD releases with Atmos appear, they would sound better and be an incentive to double dip but no, Disney Atmos tracks suffer also.

I have known the issue for years and traced it back to Thor: The Dark World with a low volume and dull audio mix. Until Iron Man 3, audio tracks were fine but after that, hell broke loose.

[Kris Deering]

Watched this UHD Blu-ray last night. The picture quality was first rate. Very detailed, excellent shadow detail and nice colors. Considerably better than the theatrical viewing I saw, which I found slightly underwhelming picture wise.

The audio is par for the course with Disney. I had to watch about 10 dB higher than my usual listening level and even with that (full reference) it felt unbalanced. There are moments of low, low bass (usually the music, not the sound effects) and dialogue sounds fine, but the rest of the track feels anemic and flat. I was also underwhelmed by the Atmos mix, which did a decent job with surrounds but almost no sense of atmosphere or directional effects above.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

Watched this UHD Blu-ray last night. The picture quality was first rate. Very detailed, excellent shadow detail and nice colors. Considerably better than the theatrical viewing I saw, which I found slightly underwhelming picture wise.

The audio is par for the course with Disney. I had to watch about 10 dB higher than my usual listening level and even with that (full reference) it felt unbalanced. There are moments of low, low bass (usually the music, not the sound effects) and dialogue sounds fine, but the rest of the track feels anemic and flat. I was also underwhelmed by the Atmos mix, which did a decent job with surrounds but almost no sense of atmosphere or directional effects above.

How did you manage to get the UHD bluray so early?

[smackrabbit]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

How did you manage to get the UHD bluray so early?

Review copies, mine included, arrived yesterday.

[smackrabbit]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

Watched this UHD Blu-ray last night. The picture quality was first rate. Very detailed, excellent shadow detail and nice colors. Considerably better than the theatrical viewing I saw, which I found slightly underwhelming picture wise.

The audio is par for the course with Disney. I had to watch about 10 dB higher than my usual listening level and even with that (full reference) it felt unbalanced. There are moments of low, low bass (usually the music, not the sound effects) and dialogue sounds fine, but the rest of the track feels anemic and flat. I was also underwhelmed by the Atmos mix, which did a decent job with surrounds but almost no sense of atmosphere or directional effects above.

I'll follow up that I agree with Kris here. The image is fantastic, with tons of detail, bold, vivid colors, and you can tell the CGI is 2K. The opening jungle scene was dark and murky in theaters, but looks wonderful here.

The soundtrack, however, is a bit anemic. During the car chase in Korea you have the soundtrack coming from the front Atmos channels with plenty of bass, but when there's a car wreck there seems to be almost no low-end impact. I listened at -9 or so on my Anthem 1120 and that's much louder than I usually use, and it still didn't have any impact. A couple scenes used Atmos well, but too often I was wondering if there was something wrong with my subwoofer.