Black Panther 4K UHD (2018) - Page 38 - Blu-ray Forum

Jodi · 05-10-2018, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gates70

It's more than just the volume, it's dynamic range, etc

Well then, volume, dynamic range, whatever. Disney, please get your s**t together in the audio department!

Seriously, Dis needs to do something by the time Avengers: Infinity War
arrives on disc (most likely sometime in August).

JoeDeM · 05-10-2018, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyIII

What does that mean exactly?

it means that, there is extra picture info in the DV stream, and not just meta data, so this has the full 12 bit enhancement, previous Disney titles only had the meta data in the DV stream so they were only 10bits.

RockyIII · 05-10-2018, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeDeM

it means that, there is extra picture info in the DV stream, and not just meta data, so this has the full 12 bit enhancement, previous Disney titles only had the meta data in the DV stream so they were only 10bits.

But does that mean anything on our current TV sets which are all 10-bit displays?

Deric2014 · 05-10-2018, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vangeli

I give average CGI no mind. This is Disney; king of doing it cheap.

At least Infinity War had better CGI except for the Hulkbuster scenes.

Deric2014 · 05-10-2018, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaotic

They spent all their CGI dollars on The Jungle Book.

And Infinity War which cost around 400 Million to make

Geoff D · 05-10-2018, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeDeM

it means that, there is extra picture info in the DV stream, and not just meta data, so this has the full 12 bit enhancement, previous Disney titles only had the meta data in the DV stream so they were only 10bits.

Not sure that they're getting the extra bit depth seeing as a LOT of sources are still mastered to 10-bit anyway, but having a proper DV enhancement layer atop the 1000-nit base layer means that there will be >1000-nit highlight detail for sure, unlike on Last Jedi where the HDR grade was so minimal it could've made do with 100 nits never mind 1000 or 4000.

JoeDeM · 05-10-2018, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyIII

But does that mean anything on our current TV sets which are all 10-bit displays?

What it means is that it has more info available when DV tone maps to your display, think of it as over sampling to give you a more accurate picture.

jamesdevil · 05-10-2018, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by levcore

That said a lot of Marvel movies have some shocking CG so it's not just Black Panther.

This is the answer. Not unique to BP at all.

RAILERSWIM · 05-10-2018, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jodi

Well then, volume, dynamic range, whatever. Disney, please get your s**t together in the audio department!

Seriously, Dis needs to do something by the time Avengers: Infinity War
arrives on disc (most likely sometime in August).

The EQ still sucks but if you bump up your volume a bit and up the subwoofer level it sounds a little bit better on the affected movies.

I know why they do it. It’s less data heavy and is easier to stream and broadcast. They don’t want to have the post production and delivery teams making a million outputs. Honestly if they just could just render everything and then demux and remux to mix and match what they need.

mahyar1 · 05-10-2018, 09:34 PM

If you just want the Digital copy:

Black Panther Digital HD $5.49

https://www.uvdigitalnow.com/canadia...-now-in-stock/

I got it redeemed through iTunes and got 150 DMR points too. It shows up in moviesanywhere.com too

Instructions on how to redeem :

https://docs.google.com/presentation...dit#slide=id.p

Black Sun · 05-10-2018, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyIII

Did I hear someone say that picture is riddled murky blacks?

This picture definitely contains a lot of blacks. Not sure how murky they are.

Vangeli · 05-10-2018, 09:41 PM

By murky you mean a raised black level? Or maybe I'm thinking of milky. Either way I don't believe that's the case here.

However it might have a similar crushed shadow situation to GotGV2, or at least the stream is like that.

johnnyknoxsvill · 05-10-2018, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

Well then, volume, dynamic range, whatever. Disney, please get your s**t together in the audio department!

Seriously, Dis needs to do something by the time Avengers: Infinity War
arrives on disc (most likely sometime in August).

Looks like I'll be canceling my pre-order and just watch it on the net somewhere. Won't get any of my money until they fix the audio issues

Black Sun · 05-10-2018, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyknoxsvill

Looks like I'll be canceling my pre-order and just watch it on the net somewhere. Won't get any of my money until they fix the audio issues

I think that’s more of an if than a when. I don’t believe it’s an oversight. Hopefully I’m wrong.

BluProofie · 05-10-2018, 10:02 PM

Infinity War sounded muted in theaters, so not I’m so sure the blu-rays are messed up.

TheSweetieMan · 05-10-2018, 10:04 PM

I saw Infinity War and Black Panther in Dolby Cinema.

The ATMOS mixes were more than adequate in theater.

LordoftheRings · 05-10-2018, 10:27 PM

Not all theaters are treated equal.

Jodi · 05-10-2018, 10:53 PM

Seriously guys, regarding the "low-volume-itis" Disney seems to be suffering of late, can I ask something: can we start an online petition addressing this?

B-52 Bass · 05-10-2018, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jodi

Seriously guys, regarding the "low-volume-itis" Disney seems to be suffering of late, can I ask something: can we start an online petition addressing this?

Yup, start it cause I'm signing it twice. This is pure BS it's no way they don't know about AQ issues by now.

This is no excuse and also the PQ is NOT that great either. This movie made them so much money in the theater and to buy this and bring it home. We get subpar PQ/AQ to NOT enjoy at home, Smh...

Khronikos · 05-10-2018, 11:07 PM

So can we get an HDR10 vs Vision comparison at some point? I would like to see the differences.

05-10-2018, 09:34 PM	#750
mahyar1 Expert Member Member since:Nov 2010 Location:Middle of Nowhere Blu-ray collection:14 Trading Score:12	If you just want the Digital copy: Black Panther Digital HD $5.49 https://www.uvdigitalnow.com/canadia...-now-in-stock/ I got it redeemed through iTunes and got 150 DMR points too. It shows up in moviesanywhere.com too Instructions on how to redeem : https://docs.google.com/presentation...dit#slide=id.p

05-10-2018, 09:41 PM	#752
Vangeli Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Apr 2017 Location:Maine, US Trading Score:3	By murky you mean a raised black level? Or maybe I'm thinking of milky. Either way I don't believe that's the case here. However it might have a similar crushed shadow situation to GotGV2, or at least the stream is like that.

05-10-2018, 10:02 PM	#755
BluProofie Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Jan 2012 4K collection:838 Blu-ray collection:2278 DVD collection:110 Trading Score:100	Infinity War sounded muted in theaters, so not I’m so sure the blu-rays are messed up.

05-10-2018, 10:04 PM	#756
TheSweetieMan Banned Member since:Nov 2009 4K collection:515 Blu-ray collection:515	I saw Infinity War and Black Panther in Dolby Cinema. The ATMOS mixes were more than adequate in theater.

05-10-2018, 10:27 PM	#757
LordoftheRings Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Portishead ♫	Not all theaters are treated equal.

05-10-2018, 10:53 PM	#758
Jodi Power Member Member since:Jan 2006	Seriously guys, regarding the "low-volume-itis" Disney seems to be suffering of late, can I ask something: can we start an online petition addressing this?

05-10-2018, 11:07 PM	#760
Khronikos Banned Member since:May 2013	So can we get an HDR10 vs Vision comparison at some point? I would like to see the differences.

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