Black Panther 4K UHD (2018)

[B-52 Bass]

Originally Posted by Boston007

Oh man this movie was bad. One of the most overhyped movies I have ever seen. Glad I never saw it in theaters.
Awful acting
Awful screenplay
Terrible CGI
Soundtrack wasn't impressive
What a waste of Andy Serkis my God.

The only good thing was Chadwick Boseman. And he was better in Avengers.

Hopefully part 2 will be better.

I'm with you on some things. I have the movie but haven't watched it yet. But saw it in the theater and yup, the CGI was BAD. But not all of it. The Lexus LS coupe shot was AWFUL, really awful. My son and I left like it could have been better. Overhyped, yup.

[Boston007]

Originally Posted by cleeve

Agreed. Overly dark picture, & inconsistent PQ from scene to scene. It was alright but pretty disappointing overall.

I agree with Rock. I have an LG OLED and it was so dark, it was one of the first things I noticed. I had to bump up the brightness.

Originally Posted by B-52 Bass

I'm with you on some things. I have the movie but haven't watched it yet. But saw it in the theater and yup, the CGI was BAD. But not all of it. The Lexus LS coupe shot was AWFUL, really awful. My son and I left like it could have been better. Overhyped, yup.

AGREED

That whole car chase scene was trash.

[avs commenter]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

I just compared the UHD in Dolby Vision to the standard bluray and the UHD is definetely presenting some bad crush. Especially in darker scenes you can clearly see that there's more to it than just the director going for so much darkness. So much detail detectable in the standard bluray is completely gone in the uhd

Do you have a DV player? Reports I've seen is this movie looks better in DV than HDR 10

[Cobolisdead]

I picked up the UHD from Best buy last night. I tried to get it from Walmart, but they were sold out completely or didn't have any to begin with. After back-tracking to Best Buy, they had tons of the movie in all of its forms and formats.

The Wife and I watched it last night, and we enjoyed it. My Two year old especially loved the Rhinos.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by cleeve

Agreed. Overly dark picture, & inconsistent PQ from scene to scene. It was alright but pretty disappointing overall.

Love the actual film though!

Don't get me wrong, picture was razor sharp and very detailed, but the black crush made things look like I had brightness set on 45 rather than 50. Check out the ambush scene in the jungle toward the beginning of the movie. I know a jungle at night is supposed to be dark, but I can also tell the difference between a naturally dark scene and a badly crushed scene.
I played that same scene on regular bluray, and lo and behold, now I could clearly tell the guerrilla uniforms and face details.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by avs commenter

Do you have a DV player? Reports I've seen is this movie looks better in DV than HDR 10

LG UP970 DV player

[jh901]

We should try to reach out to a home video contact at Disney. It shouldn't be too difficult to convince them to hand audio like every other major studio.

I didn't feel there was much to like about Black Panther. The 7.1 surround was not impressive even when volume compensated. Image didn't wow for the most part. Special effects didn't look good to me. Content of film itself was a little dry and preachy.

[Kris Deering]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Don't get me wrong, picture was razor sharp and very detailed, but the black crush made things look like I had brightness set on 45 rather than 50. Check out the ambush scene in the jungle toward the beginning of the movie. I know a jungle at night is supposed to be dark, but I can also tell the difference between a naturally dark scene and a badly crushed scene.
I played that same scene on regular bluray, and lo and behold, now I could clearly tell the guerrilla uniforms and face details.

Sounds like a setup issue. I remember that scene being dark in the theater and I was VERY happy with how great it looked at home. Shadow detail and blacks in that sequence look fantastic in my setup. Most tone mapping solutions I've seen are very dark on the bottom end, and don't do well with scenes like this. It could just be a function of how your display is calibrated on the bottom end.

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by Boston007

Oh man this movie was bad. One of the most overhyped movies I have ever seen. Glad I never saw it in theaters.
Awful acting
Awful screenplay
Terrible CGI
Soundtrack wasn't impressive
What a waste of Andy Serkis my God.

The only good thing was Chadwick Boseman. And he was better in Avengers.

Hopefully part 2 will be better.

lol I really liked this movie except for thinking Boseman was a little too reserved and basically got outshone by everyone else. CGI was mostly crap though, no argument there.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

Sounds like a setup issue. I remember that scene being dark in the theater and I was VERY happy with how great it looked at home. Shadow detail and blacks in that sequence look fantastic in my setup. Most tone mapping solutions I've seen are very dark on the bottom end, and don't do well with scenes like this. It could just be a function of how your display is calibrated on the bottom end.

That should be the case with most other DV titles I own but it is not. I even tried Dolby Vision vivid mode out of curiosity but even in vivid mode image was badly crushed.
The standard bluray looked dark but not crushed, with more details during dark scenes.

[Boston007]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Don't get me wrong, picture was razor sharp and very detailed, but the black crush made things look like I had brightness set on 45 rather than 50. Check out the ambush scene in the jungle toward the beginning of the movie. I know a jungle at night is supposed to be dark, but I can also tell the difference between a naturally dark scene and a badly crushed scene.
I played that same scene on regular bluray, and lo and behold, now I could clearly tell the guerrilla uniforms and face details.

That was the EXACT scene that made me say the same thing.

Terrible

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

Sounds like a setup issue. I remember that scene being dark in the theater and I was VERY happy with how great it looked at home. Shadow detail and blacks in that sequence look fantastic in my setup. Most tone mapping solutions I've seen are very dark on the bottom end, and don't do well with scenes like this. It could just be a function of how your display is calibrated on the bottom end.

Nothing wrong with his setup. Mine is tuned and I thought the same thing.

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

lol I really liked this movie except for thinking Boseman was a little too reserved and basically got outshone by everyone else. CGI was mostly crap though, no argument there.

Outshone? Sorry I disagree. Everyone else's acting was awful

You thought Killmonger was better? Klaue? It was over the top stupid. Killmonger sounded like a THUG. King material my @ss.

I honestly expected better for a Marvel movie. They need to look to Winter Soldier for a proper comic book movie adaptation, IMO

[gates70]

About the audio...it doesn't help that sites like this give the audio a good score (4/5) while saying crap like if you turn it up it's fine. AVS said the same stuff and it's false. It's not a good track, end of story.

[Boston007]

Originally Posted by gates70

About the audio...it doesn't help that sites like this give the audio a good score (4/5) while saying crap like if you turn it up it's fine. AVS said the same stuff and it's false. It's not a good track, end of story.

It's NOT A GOOD MOVIE, END OF STORY

[jh901]

Originally Posted by gates70

About the audio...it doesn't help that sites like this give the audio a good score (4/5) while saying crap like if you turn it up it's fine. AVS said the same stuff and it's false. It's not a good track, end of story.

It's definitely necessary to turn it up for dialog to more or less match a typical release. The 7.1 surround experience doesn't measure up to, say, BR2049. We shouldn't settle for whatever it is that Disney is doing. I shouldn't even have to touch my typical volume setting much less settle for 4 surround speakers and LFE which aren't delivering as they should.

[illadvised]

Anyone else ever run into a problem where it says the digital code is already redeemed? Never happened to me before.

[BigBlue10989]

Originally Posted by jh901

It's definitely necessary to turn it up for dialog to more or less match a typical release. The 7.1 surround experience doesn't measure up to, say, BR2049. We shouldn't settle for whatever it is that Disney is doing. I shouldn't even have to touch my typical volume setting much less settle for 4 surround speakers and LFE which aren't delivering as they should.

We have to realize that we're in the vast vast minority that really care. We really need to get out of the BR.com bubble and look at it from a business standpoint. I'm 100% certain that Disney has gotten more complaints about the dynamic range of their movies than they ever will about the lack of it.

Most people who buy these are listening on TV speakers.

[Pieter V]

How Black Panther's Visual Effects Were Made | WIRED - YouTube

[gates70]

Originally Posted by Boston007

It's NOT A GOOD MOVIE, END OF STORY

What's that got to do with the audio ? It's personal taste, some will like the movie some won't.

Originally Posted by jh901

It's definitely necessary to turn it up for dialog to more or less match a typical release. The 7.1 surround experience doesn't measure up to, say, BR2049. We shouldn't settle for whatever it is that Disney is doing. I shouldn't even have to touch my typical volume setting much less settle for 4 surround speakers and LFE which aren't delivering as they should.

Didn't say it wasn't necessary. Obviously you have no choice to turn it up. What I'm saying is that turning up the volume won't magically give you good dynamics and a good track.

[cynatnite]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Don't get me wrong, picture was razor sharp and very detailed, but the black crush made things look like I had brightness set on 45 rather than 50. Check out the ambush scene in the jungle toward the beginning of the movie. I know a jungle at night is supposed to be dark, but I can also tell the difference between a naturally dark scene and a badly crushed scene.
I played that same scene on regular bluray, and lo and behold, now I could clearly tell the guerrilla uniforms and face details.

I didn't have that problem. The night scene at the beginning was dark, but I could make out faces and other details with no problems. I have a LG UH7700 and LJ UP970. I keep the backlight a little lower than recommended, but the scene looked good to my eyes.

[jamesdevil]

Originally Posted by BigBlue10989

We have to realize that we're in the vast vast minority that really care. We really need to get out of the BR.com bubble and look at it from a business standpoint. I'm 100% certain that Disney has gotten more complaints about the dynamic range of their movies than they ever will about the lack of it.

Most people who buy these are listening on TV speakers.

Most people who are buying 4K discs, in 2018, are not listening on TV speakers. I just don't buy that.

I'm well aware I'm in the minority of how people consume movies but Disney should just get out of the game if they can't release audio tracks that do their films and their history on the disc format justice.