Sony introduces high-end ZD9 TV series with HDR

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

One member was the troublemaker on the other forum and the forum made it very easy for him since I could not reply. Bad and unfair journalism on behalf of the form and the poster.

The methodology was fine and well respected and our 2016 TV Shootout was a great success, run by Joel Silver, Jeff and Matt Murray with 3 out of the 5 TVs calibrated by David Mackenzie. My personal 500M Kuro was optimized and beautifully calibrated by D-Nice "DeWayne Davis. Jeff and Matt Murray calibrated the Vizio.

Everything was done to SMPTE and ITU specs and by the top experts using the most accurate perfectly calibrated tools.

The trouble maker was unhappy that his favorite TV did not do well and that it has a manufacturer's defect with one of the LEDs in the upper left corner non functioning.

The part I bolded I find rather funny . I’d repost the pic of the fanatic praying in front of his TV, but I don’t have time now.

Anyway, don’t let it get you down. You’re welcomed here . In the tech threads here even when we disagree with one another, we keep it civil.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by PaulGo

Sony announced today at a press event in...

Musical interlude post before heading out on Date night with my wife -

Note to those curious AV journos at the Culver City event during the unveiling of the ZD9 4K/UHD TV



who sort of recognized the tune being played in the background, but just couldn’t place it…it was this song by Train -

Train - Save Me, San Francisco - YouTube

[johnnyknoxsvill]

I better get to saving for that 100" TV lol is it really £60,000?

[PaulGo]

Sony Bravia ZD9 - The biggest Android TV in my life - YouTube

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

One member was the troublemaker on the other forum and the forum made it very easy for him since I could not reply. Bad and unfair journalism on behalf of the form and the poster.

The methodology was fine and well respected and our 2016 TV Shootout was a great success, run by Joel Silver, Jeff and Matt Murray with 3 out of the 5 TVs calibrated by David Mackenzie. My personal 500M Kuro was optimized and beautifully calibrated by D-Nice "DeWayne Davis. Jeff and Matt Murray calibrated the Vizio.

Everything was done to SMPTE and ITU specs and by the top experts using the most accurate perfectly calibrated tools.

The trouble maker was unhappy that his favorite TV did not do well and that it has a manufacturer's defect with one of the LEDs in the upper left corner non functioning.

But how long were the sets run in for?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

One member was the troublemaker on the other forum and the forum made it very easy for him since I could not reply. ....

Not to worry, be it AVS or AGS….

Ike Ahmed AGS Surgery Day Lecture 2015 on MIGS 2.0 - YouTube

I believe, eventually, quality is always vindicated . Looking forward to hearing about your next shootout. Dem LG OLEDs can be tough to beat. Should be a good competition.

[Robert Zohn]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

But how long were the sets run in for?

All of the TVs had 200 or more hours on them except for the Vizio R that had about 45 hours. The Vizio was literally raced over from JFK 2 days before the actual event started.

@Penton-Man, thanks for the funny and appropriate post and the Youtube video. It is my hope to be reinstated and to provide technical and helpful information.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

....@Penton-Man, thanks for the funny and appropriate post and the Youtube video. It is my hope to be reinstated and to provide technical and helpful information.

Looks like you’ve already got some early shootout competition, albeit lacking the most cutting edge HDR display (the ZD9) as I was just emailed this link…https://twitter.com/hdtvtest?lang=nl for my thoughts, despite the fact I pretty much hate twitter.

Meanwhile, we await the Value Electronics Shootout Royale later this year.

P.S.
If you’ve got the time and opportunity, after the networking lunch check out the afternoon sessions on HDR in NYC, act quickly though…
http://www.sportsvideo.org/event/2016-imaging-forum/

[Opips3]

Sony ZD9 4K with HDR Bravia 65" inches was price $6999.99 in USA and will coming soon few of weeks.

I was excited. I don't think afford it better later.

[Robert Zohn]

@Penton-Man, thanks for your suggestion! I had a blast at today's Sport's Video Group NYC HDR technical convention. Here's more information on this very important technical "Live Sports" experts and specifically, 4K HDR and everything that comes along with HDR, WCG, EOTF and 10-bit to your home display.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

All of the TVs had 200 or more hours on them except for the Vizio R that had about 45 hours. The Vizio was literally raced over from JFK 2 days before the actual event started.

@Penton-Man, thanks for the funny and appropriate post and the Youtube video. It is my hope to be reinstated and to provide technical and helpful information.

Unbelievable you were banned from AVS, and ironic that your shootout seems to get more attention there than anywhere else. Look forward to the next one!

[Robert Zohn]

One thing I learned at the Sports Imaging UHD, HDR conference is that it's likely all 2016 "consumer grade" high-end HDR capable TVs will be able to handle the license free HDR scheme that BBC/NHK developed.

Hugo Gaggioni, Sony Electronics, Broadcast and Production Systems Division, CTO stated that Sony's X930, X940 and the new Z9D, aka ZD9 in EU were all Hybrid Log Gamma (HLG) HDR capable. Although not used yet, I do predict we'll see HLG HDR in 1080p and UHD.

So if this comes to fruition it would definitely be best to have your 1080p displayed properly set-up for SDR and HLG HDR luminance ranges.

[Geoff D]

Nice, that ties in with DanBa's post in the HDR discussion thread about how 2016 Android HDR sets will be capable of HLG as long as they can decode VP9 profile 2. It's not dynamic HDR10 but being compatible with future HDR broadcast systems is a nice surprise, although Penton's photo of some German fellows evaluating SDR, HDR10 and HLG on Sony sets (the HLG one loaded with custom firmware) certainly indicated that this was a possibility.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

@Penton-Man, thanks for your suggestion! I had a blast at today's Sport's Video Group NYC HDR technical convention. Here's more information on this very important technical "Live Sports" experts and specifically, 4K HDR and everything that comes along with HDR, WCG, EOTF and 10-bit to your home display.

[SPOILER]

While they’re looking up, I think I can read what’s going thru the minds of Hugo and Pat……’Mark, dang, I see you overdressed yet again for another (this) panel’.

P.S.
I hope you got back home from the City early enough to catch American history being made later that night. My young niece watched with us and wept during the Alicia Keyes performance, esp. the part with the montage of all our Presidents and the glass ceiling being broken.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by bruceames

Unbelievable you were banned from AVS, and ironic that your shootout seems to get more attention there than anywhere else. Look forward to the next one!

Robert’s got deeper problems over there than I had imagined. A co-member of both forums PMed me this post last night….http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ole...l#post44959058 .

Apparently they circle the wagons around their own…..i.e. as long as one is providing *opinion*, that , and all the bickering behavior such opinion provokes (*freedom of expression*), is deemed kosher (for it brings in viewer clicks to the thread(s) about Robert’s shootouts)….which advertisers like. Makes me wonder if the *controversy* about the quality of the event was contrived for forum clicks, unfortunately, at the expense of Robert.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

...Penton's photo of some German fellows evaluating SDR, HDR10 and HLG on Sony sets (the HLG one loaded with custom firmware) certainly indicated that this was a possibility.

It’s my belief that, in time, sports will become a primary driver (heck, thee primary driver) of HDR tv sales. The post with pics to which Geoff refers to is here -> https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post12224876
showed that with some use cases (a nighttime soccer/football match) the quality of the imagery between HLG and PQ was indistinguishable to the viewers working at Sky.

Also something to note is that the two approaches are not independent in terms of final delivery. Meaning, there are now established (‘official’) formulas for linear light to non-linear light conversion and vice versa using the PQ or HLG transforms. This is significant since HDR content may be captured for a live broadcast using HLG, but it could then be played back on a channel that uses the PQ curve support.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

....to provide technical and helpful information.

Your effort is not unappreciated here. And your personalized service to your clients has established itself as the Gold Standard in the TV retail business.

[Opips3]

I've personally. I want to know about 12bits. It's richly colour wide and use HDMI deep color on contrasts colors.

I want to see UHDTV 4K 12bits colors.


high-end ZD9 is improved. With 12bits best picture.

[Robert Zohn]

The best 2016 panels are 10-bit. Only Dolby Vision HDR offers 12-bit content.

LG and Vizio display Dolby Vision's 12-bit signal is by dithering the last 2-bits. It works well.

Not sure when we'll see 12-bit panels, but many of the high-end 4K projectors are true 12-bit.

[zoran]

65 inch for 8K holly cow!