Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Theatrical Versions) - April 6, 2010

[Monolithium]

Originally Posted by radagast

A reboot where they do the entire story with state of the art video technology and when the Blu-rays come out, they are reference quality.

And they can start with the most excellent script done for the BBC dramatization.

One can only imagine how long it would be. About twelve hours per book, two books for each part, so let's say 72 hours for the entire story. And that's being conservative.

[Witch King of Angmar]

Am I the only one who hated arwen in the movies? She is so boring & whiny.

Galadriel is not bad but Eowyn is badass.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Johnothan Pedak

One can only imagine how long it would be. About twelve hours per book, two books for each part, so let's say 72 hours for the entire story. And that's being conservative.

Six movies. One for each "book" (FoTR, TTT, and RoTK all were comprised of 2 "books" a piece)

or:

Start with the BBC radio adaptation. Make a few improvements. 15 hours tops.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Witch King of Angmar

Am I the only one who hated arwen in the movies? She is so boring & whiny.

Galadriel is not bad but Eowyn is badass.

Arwen is supposed to be the fairest female in all of Middle Earth. Liv Tyler: no.

Galadriel is supposed to be a stunner as well. Kate: no.

[radagast]

Deleted scenes
Many filmed scenes remain unused, even in the Extended Editions. Deletions include:

The Fellowship of the Ring
Additional footage from the Battle of the Last Alliance during the prologue.
An obscure shot from the trailers of two Elven girls playing about in Rivendell.
Scene mentioned in the commentary, about an animal disrupting Frodo and Sam while they sleep, after seeing the Wood Elves. Many animals were used, including rabbits and deer.[10]
Dialogue from the Council of Elrond, such as Gandalf explaining how Sauron forged the One Ring.[10]
An attack by Orcs from Moria on Lothlórien after the Fellowship leaves Moria. Jackson replaced this with a more suspenseful entrance for the Fellowship. Much of the lost footage can be seen as promotional material on The Fellowship of the Ring theatrical DVD and tie-in books, documentary footage on the Extended Editions, and Trading Cards.
Longer scene of Boromir trying to take the Ring.[10]
Frodo seeing more parts of Middle Earth when he put the Ring on.[10]
More battle footage from Parth Galen.[10]
An attack on Frodo and Sam at the river Anduin by an Uruk-hai.[10]

The Two Towers
More Arwen footage, including a flashback scene of her first meeting with a beardless Aragorn (seen in The Two Towers trailer).
Faramir having a vision of Frodo becoming like Gollum.[13]
Footage of Arwen at Helm's Deep, cut by Jackson during a revision to the film's plot. Foreshadowing this sequence were scenes where Arwen and Elrond visit Galadriel at Lothlórien (seen in The Two Towers trailer). The scene was edited down to a telepathic communication between Elrond and Galadriel.[13]
Théoden speaking to the troops in the armoury, prior to the Battle of Helm's Deep.
Éowyn defending the refugees in the Glittering Caves from Uruk-hai intruders.[29]
An unknown scene displayed in The Two Towers trailer of Éomer lowering a spear while riding his horse in a forest.
Frodo and Sam fighting on the ground in Osgiliath (after Sam tackles Frodo away from the Ringwraith). The scene's fighting was deleted, but Frodo drawing Sting and pointing it at Sam after he is tackled was left in.[30]

The Return of the King
A line of dialogue during the death of Saruman, in which he reveals that Wormtongue poisoned Théodred, giving further context as to why Wormtongue kills Saruman, and Legolas in turn kills Wormtongue.[31]
A conversation between Elrond and Arwen in a library in Rivendell, after Arwen decides to wait for Aragorn. Elrond leaves, saying, "You gave away your life's grace. I cannot protect you anymore."[32]
Sam using the Light of Eärendil to pass the Watchers at Cirith Ungol.
Aragorn having his armour fitted during the preparations for the Battle of the Black Gate. This was the final scene filmed during principal photography.[19]
Sauron fighting Aragorn at the Black Gate. A computer-generated Troll was placed over Sauron due to Jackson feeling the scene was inappropriate. Sauron is also seen in a beautiful form as Annatar, Giver of Gifts.[19]
Also at the Black Gate sequence, Pippin was seen in the trailer holding a wounded Merry.
Further epilogue footage, including that of Legolas and Gimli, as well as Éowyn and Faramir's wedding and Aragorn's death and funeral.[33]

Peter Jackson has stated that he would like to include some of these unused scenes in a future "Ultimate Edition" home video release (probably high-definition) of the film trilogy. They will not be re-inserted into the movies but available for viewing separately. This edition will also include outtakes.[34]

[Goldengirl]

that would be on the ultimate box set. If any studios pay attention to the fan sites (the main one of which I would think would be TORn, since Guillermo posts there) I hope everyone who wants this set posts in this discussion. Maybe that would help us get this sooner rather than later.

http://newboards.theonering.net/foru...i?post=255106;

[Batman1980]

I would definitely love to see more of Liv Tyler and the wedding of Faramir and Eowyn.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Goldengirl

that would be on the ultimate box set. If any studios pay attention to the fan sites (the main one of which I would think would be TORn, since Guillermo posts there) I hope everyone who wants this set posts in this discussion. Maybe that would help us get this sooner rather than later.

http://newboards.theonering.net/foru...i?post=255106;

I can't access your link from work, but I will try to remember to do it at home tonight.

[Riff Magnum]

Originally Posted by Witch King of Angmar

One of the best moments of ROTK(Book)

[Show spoiler]Grond & Witch King's black magic broke the gondor's gate.

Everyone fled seeing witch king except gandalf on shadowfax.

Gandalf: You cannot enter here.

Witch King halted

Gandalf: Go back to the abyss prepared for you! Fall into the nothingness that awaits you and your master. Go!

Witch King: Old fool! Old fool! This is my hour. Do you not know death when you see it? Die now and curse in vain!

He lifted up his sword and flames ran down the blade.

Gandalf did not move.

Suddenly horns started blowing. Rohan had come at last and witch king vanished.

Good stuff, but the best moment of the entire LOTR is when the Lieutenant comes out of the black gate to taunt and bluff Aragorn and Gandalf. I think the way Jackson handled this scene in the movie is completely anti-climatic compared to the way it's presented in the book. It's so tense and nail biting as you don't really know if the mouth of sauron is bluffing or not.

[SleeperAgent]

Originally Posted by dcowboy7

I want a reboot.

+2

Get someone who's actually read the books recently to direct it.

[KubrickFan]

Originally Posted by SleeperAgent

+2

Get someone who's actually read the books recently to direct it.

I'm sorry, but as adaptations probably won't satisfy, why don't you just stick with the novels?

[thelittleprince]

I see amazon just lowered the set to $49.99, probably to PM Fry's price. I just may buy it for that price!

[owa]

The greatest movies *ever* so just buy it!

[radagast]

Originally Posted by KubrickFan

I'm sorry, but as adaptations probably won't satisfy, why don't you just stick with the novels?

The BBC radio dramatization was very satisfying. There were a few weak places, but all in all, the best dramatization done yet.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by thelittleprince

I see amazon just lowered the set to $49.99, probably to PM Fry's price. I just may buy it for that price!

I just went to Fry's site and it is still $63.99.

However, to those who said it would never drop in price...TOLD YA!

[RedDevil17]

Has anyone done a comparison of the audio between the dvd and the blu? Now that its $49.99 on amazon I think ill bite, but just wanted to know if any can tell me if the sound is much better.

Thanks

[masoud90]

Just bought mine from Amazon!!! Wooohooo so excited!

[Roy Batty]

I consider myself something of an "archivist" when it comes to my compulsive collector habits, be it music, comic books or movies, meaning that, no matter if there's a new, improved version (let's say, a better printed, hardcover collection of some old monthly comic books), I always like to have the originals, I always strive to be able to enjoy them the way they were released, warts and all, because I value that historical factor.

What I am trying to explain is that, while I love the extended edition of the LOTR Trilogy, and I bask in their trove of additional features, for me, skipping the original theatrical cut was never an option. I want BOTH, the theatrical and the extended, for different reasons.

My point here is that I was not one of those on the fence about this release, wondering whether to get this to satisfy my LOTR immediate cravings, or to avoid it and wait for the foreseeable boxset, the one that Michael Pellerin and even Peter Jackson have mentioned some times.

So I was more than willing to buy this set now, and then, whatever pumped-up mega boxset they throw us later in the future.

But then, I started reading about the PQ issues... And while I am as demanding as the next guy, I am also quite aware that there's always a lot of noise in the Net, and a lot of people who just want to show you that they are more discerning than the rest of us. So I tried to be sensible about it, and just wait and see, and try to form my own judgement.

And then, the first screen captures started to show up, and… well, it was certainly discouraging, but I told myself to remember that still images NEVER tell the whole story about quality transfer, at least, not the way that the image in motion do. Many apparent artifacts will be not so apparent when you actually get to watch the movie on your display of choice. And, of course, there's also the matter of how those still images were captured and compressed, and how much that can be a factor in their quality, too.

So, I tried to remain positive.

And then… Then I happened upon these:

http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/43821
http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/43820
http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/43823
http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/43824

Well, if any of you can not clearly see the difference there, if you can not appreciate the healthy, detailed grain of the HD broadcasting, versus the blurry, waxed look that is typical of poorly aplied, unprofessional noise reduction…

Just let's say that, sorry, but your eyes are clearly not trained enough.

The image quality of LOTR: THE FELLOWSHIP… is simply UNACCEPTABLE for blu-ray release, at least, if we want to strive for the high standard we all know the blu-ray format can offer us, instead of letting it slide backwards to the washed out compression that the studios are trying to force on us.

I am not saying I preffer the HD broadcast over the blu-ray, for it shows its share of issues too (mostly, compression artifacts), but, by comparison, it serves to prove that the blu-ray is HIGHLY DNRed and waxed-up, and that it could be much improved.

The image quality of LOTR: THE FELLOWSHIP… is simply UNACCEPTABLE for blu-ray release, at least, if we want to strive for the high standard we all know the blu-ray format can offer us, instead of letting it slide backwards to the washed out compression that the studios are trying to force on us.

[moviefiend]

Does anyone know if the deluxe box sets coming out in 2011/2012 will include the theatrical and EEs? I am a bit of a completist and would like both versions...trying to decide whether or not to purchase this now!

[radagast]

Originally Posted by moviefiend

Does anyone know if the deluxe box sets coming out in 2011/2012 will include the theatrical and EEs? I am a bit of a completist and would like both versions...trying to decide whether or not to purchase this now!

Who said they are coming out in 2011 or 2012? The latest information posted here is that people involved in the production of LoTR have heard NOTHING about there ever being an EE release.