Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Theatrical Versions) - April 6, 2010

[STARSCREAM]

Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

Odd that my mother considers this the most boring movie ever...

Wife and I love LOTR now BUT when Fellowship came out we rented it and had no clue what the heck was going on, thought it was boring, and couldn't believe it just ended like it did. When it was over we were confused and were like "this is IT, this is what all the hype is about". Neither of us had ever read the books or knew anything about it. When Two Towers came out we had alittle more knowledge and liked it alot. After that point and rewatching the first we LOVED it. We laugh now about how we used to not get it and thought it was boring, LOL. So I can see why people think that about it. You have to take the time to really WATCH it, not just half pay attention like alot of people do when watching movies.

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

I know it bothered a lot of people, the way Jackson portrayed Meriadoc Brandybuck and Peregrin Took but I loved it!
Aragorn: Gentlemen, we do not stop till nightfall.
Pippin: What about breakfast?
Aragorn: You've already had it.
Pippin: We've had one, yes. What about second breakfast?
[Aragorn turns and walks off in disgust]
Merry: I don't think he knows about second breakfast, Pip.
Pippin: What about elevenses? Luncheon? Afternoon tea? Dinner? Supper? He knows about them, doesn't he?
Merry: I wouldn't count on it.

I don't know about you, but in my house growing up... dinner and supper were considered the same thing...

Legolas: Lembas Bread. (eats a bit) Just one small bite is enough to fill a grown man's stomach for the whole day.

Pippin: (nods) Ah...

Merry: How many did you eat, Pip?

Pippin: Four. (burps)

[Batman1980]

Gandalf: Confound it all, Samwise Gamgee. Have you been eavesdropping?
Sam: I ain't been droppin' no eaves sir, honest. I was just cutting the grass under the window there, if you'll follow me.
Gandalf: A little late for trimming the verge, don't you think?
Sam: I heard raised voices.
Gandalf: What did you hear? Speak.
Sam: N-nothing important. That is, I heard a good deal about a ring, and a Dark Lord, and something about the end of the world, but... Please, Mr. Gandalf, sir, don't hurt me. Don't turn me into anything... unnatural.
Honestly, the comic relief was necessary in such long and draining movies. So many scenes that I will applaud for to come in just the first movie, not kidding. I never applaud in the theatre but I will for LoTR, even if it makes me look silly in my own home.

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by STARSCREAM

Wife and I love LOTR now BUT when Fellowship came out we rented it and had no clue what the heck was going on, thought it was boring, and couldn't believe it just ended like it did. When it was over we were confused and were like "this is IT, this is what all the hype is about". Neither of us had ever read the books or knew anything about it. When Two Towers came out we had alittle more knowledge and liked it alot. After that point and rewatching the first we LOVED it. We laugh now about how we used to not get it and thought it was boring, LOL. So I can see why people think that about it. You have to take the time to really WATCH it, not just half pay attention like alot of people do when watching movies.

Yeah, its not like Star Wars that can stand alone on its own pretty well. Tolkien considered LotR as one story, basically one book (which is funny, because it was really six books, but that's neither here nor there). Which would make the term "trilogy" not really valid.

[Batman1980]

Galadriel: The Quest stands upon the edge of a knife. Stray but a little, and it will fail, to the ruin of all. Yet hope remains while the Company is true.
Legolas: Hurry! Frodo and Sam have reached the eastern shore.
[Aragorn does not move]
Legolas: You mean not to follow them.
Aragorn: Frodo's fate is no longer in our hands.
Gimli: Then it has all been in vain. The fellowship has failed.
Aragorn: Not if we hold true to each other.
[pause]
Aragorn: We will not abandon Merry and Pippin to torment and death. Not while we have strength left. Leave all that can be spared behind. We travel light. Let's hunt some Orc.
Gimli: YES!
Some of the best lines EVER in cinema in these movies, God bless Peter Jackson for giving up nearly a decade of his life and probably a good deal of his sanity to get these movies done for us.

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

Galadriel: The Quest stands upon the edge of a knife. Stray but a little, and it will fail, to the ruin of all. Yet hope remains while the Company is true.
Legolas: Hurry! Frodo and Sam have reached the eastern shore.
[Aragorn does not move]
Legolas: You mean not to follow them.
Aragorn: Frodo's fate is no longer in our hands.
Gimli: Then it has all been in vain. The fellowship has failed.
Aragorn: Not if we hold true to each other.
[pause]
Aragorn: We will not abandon Merry and Pippin to torment and death. Not while we have strength left. Leave all that can be spared behind. We travel light. Let's hunt some Orc.
Gimli: YES!
Some of the best lines EVER in cinema in these movies, God bless Peter Jackson for giving up nearly a decade of his life and probably a good deal of his sanity to get these movies done for us.

Yes, and if done right, The Hobbit can be just as EPIC (maybe not exactly the same, but close). I can't wait til 2097 when they actually get released...

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

Maybe we should get a group going about the time the movies come out, there should be more interest at that time and potentially more of "the faithful" on the site. The History of Middle Earth books are a tough to get through, but rewarding, and you get to read the "actual" end of the story, the epilogue chapter that Tolkien decided not to publish in RoTK (few people have seen this). I'm glad that Trotter the Hobbit was replaced by Strider; one of the huge improvements that were made during development of the story.

Add me to the list. I've read LotR and the Hobbit almost every year since college (20+ years) and am due to read them again as soon as I finish the novels I'm working on now. Unfortunately, I've only read the Silmarillion once, and it was extremely painful because I had to keep going back to earlier sections and companion encyclopedias in order to keep all of the characters straight (a friend once likened it to all of the begatting in the Bible). Anyway, I plan to read it through again, and may take your advice and pick up the Nasmith-illustrated version.

[SellmeyourDVD]

Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

Odd that my mother considers this the most boring movie ever...

So what you're trying to say.... is that she isn't waiting for the EEs lol

I just realized after this months billing cycle i'll have $50 in amazon GC, so LOTR.... HERE I COME!!!!

[Batman1980]

Arwen: Do you remember when we first met?
Aragorn: I thought I had wandered into a dream.
Arwen: Long years have passed. You did not have the cares you carry now. Do you remember what I told you?
Aragorn: You said you'd bind yourself to me, forsaking the immortal life of your people.
Arwen: And to that I hold. I would rather share one lifetime with you than face all the ages of this world alone.
[hands him her pendant]
Arwen: I choose a mortal life.
Aragorn: You cannot give me this.
Arwen: It is mine to give to whom I will. Like my heart.
Honestly this bored me a bit in the novels but Tyler and Mortensen brought it to life for me in the movies. I do think they over-powered up Arwen a bit but that doesn't bother me as much as it bothers some.

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by STARSCREAM

Wife and I love LOTR now BUT when Fellowship came out we rented it and had no clue what the heck was going on, thought it was boring, and couldn't believe it just ended like it did. When it was over we were confused and were like "this is IT, this is what all the hype is about". Neither of us had ever read the books or knew anything about it. When Two Towers came out we had alittle more knowledge and liked it alot. After that point and rewatching the first we LOVED it. We laugh now about how we used to not get it and thought it was boring, LOL. So I can see why people think that about it. You have to take the time to really WATCH it, not just half pay attention like alot of people do when watching movies.

I took my nephew to see it for his first time. The movie ended, the credits started rolling, he looks over at me and says, "That sucks." I had to convince him that wasn't the end of it, but he didn't like the idea of waiting two years to see it resolved.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

I took my nephew to see it for his first time. The movie ended, the credits started rolling, he looks over at me and says, "That sucks." I had to convince him that wasn't the end of it, but he didn't like the idea of waiting two years to see it resolved.

Does your nephew realize most franchises aren't like Saw and LoTR and you usually have to wait 2-4 years between sequels? I keed, I keed.
Gandalf: You cannot pass!
Frodo: Gandalf!
Gandalf: I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor. Go back to the shadow. The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udun! You shall not pass!
Galadriel: The power of the enemy is growing. Sauron will use his puppet Saruman to destroy the people of Rohan. Isengard has been unleashed. The Eye of Sauron now turns to Gondor, the last free kingdom of men. His war on this country will come swiftly. He senses the Ring is close. The strength of the Ringbearer is failing. In his heart, Frodo begins to understand. The quest will claim his life. You know this. You have foreseen it. It is the risk we all took. In the gathering dark, the will of the Ring grows strong. It works hard now to find its way back into the hands of men. Men, who are so easily seduced by its power. The young captain of Gondor has but to extend his hand, take the Ring for his own and the world will fall. It is close now, so close to achieving its goal. For Sauron will have dominion over all life on this Earth, even unto the ending of the world. The time of the elves is over. Do we leave Middle-Earth to its fate? Do we let them stand alone?

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

Add me to the list. I've read LotR and the Hobbit almost every year since college (20+ years) and am due to read them again as soon as I finish the novels I'm working on now. Unfortunately, I've only read the Silmarillion once, and it was extremely painful because I had to keep going back to earlier sections and companion encyclopedias in order to keep all of the characters straight (a friend once likened it to all of the begatting in the Bible). Anyway, I plan to read it through again, and may take your advice and pick up the Nasmith-illustrated version.

We just need to figure when a good time to form the group would be, and if it would be worth setting some "common goals". For example, other than discussing the movie when it is released next month (which should create a burst of activity for at least a week), I think it would interesting to have the group read The Hobbit and then LoTR a chapter at a time (maybe Silmarillion later), and then have group members comment on the chapters. The problem with that, of course, would be whether we could all read it at the same time (people have vacations at various times, I have to travel occasionally, etc.). But the idea would be to keep it interesting and fun - none of the "if you don't like lossless audio, you're an f-ing idiot" and the rest of the jive that you often see in the forum. Opinions and suggestions?

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

Does your nephew realize most franchises aren't like Saw and LoTR and you usually have to wait 2-4 years between sequels? I keed, I keed.

No, he is a member of what I call the "general public", but our family loves him anyway.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

We just need to figure when a good time to form the group would be, and if it would be worth setting some "common goals". For example, other than discussing the movie when it is released next month (which should create a burst of activity for at least a week), I think it would interesting to have the group read The Hobbit and then LoTR a chapter at a time (maybe Silmarillion later), and then have group members comment on the chapters. The problem with that, of course, would be whether we could all read it at the same time (people have vacations at various times, I have to travel occasionally, etc.). But the idea would be to keep it interesting and fun - none of the "if you don't like lossless audio, you're an f-ing idiot" and the rest of the jive that you often see in the forum. Opinions and suggestions?

Honestly I would but they're such long movies and I rarely read these days. I'd be open to doing it for the Hobbit for sure, that's a book I definitely want to pick up again before the movies hit. Not quite as good as LoTR but still an excellent read.

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

Yes, and if done right, The Hobbit can be just as EPIC (maybe not exactly the same, but close). I can't wait til 2097 when they actually get released...

Yes, I hope the producers realize that most of us have a finite lifespan (that also applies to the LoTR EE's), and that some of us are over the hill .

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

We just need to figure when a good time to form the group would be, and if it would be worth setting some "common goals". For example, other than discussing the movie when it is released next month (which should create a burst of activity for at least a week), I think it would interesting to have the group read The Hobbit and then LoTR a chapter at a time (maybe Silmarillion later), and then have group members comment on the chapters. The problem with that, of course, would be whether we could all read it at the same time (people have vacations at various times, I have to travel occasionally, etc.). But the idea would be to keep it interesting and fun - none of the "if you don't like lossless audio, you're an f-ing idiot" and the rest of the jive that you often see in the forum. Opinions and suggestions?

This is a FANTASTIC idea, would give me motivation to do something other than watching Blu-rays too never been part of a book club, I think it sounds really fun. Although, it would have to be something at least kinda organized, since like you said, people having diff vac times, and me... I am kinda a slow reader so I will have to take my time...

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

This is a FANTASTIC idea, would give me motivation to do something other than watching Blu-rays too never been part of a book club, I think it sounds really fun. Although, it would have to be something at least kinda organized, since like you said, people having diff vac times, and me... I am kinda a slow reader so I will have to take my time...

Take a speed reading class then, although I doubt LoTR is the kind of novella that was meant to be read quickly. I will read them all again eventually, they strike me as the kind of books you can't grasp in one read.

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

Although, it would have to be something at least kinda organized, since like you said, people having diff vac times, and me... I am kinda a slow reader so I will have to take my time...

I only ever read a chapter at a time, as I like to savor it. In this case, the end of the journey is not the goal, the journey itself is the destination - or something like that.

[AintNoSin]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

I think it would interesting to have the group read The Hobbit and then LoTR a chapter at a time (maybe Silmarillion later), and then have group members comment on the chapters.

I'd be up for that. Of course, I would see the irony of reading the Kindle edition of Tolkein on my iPhone. Sounds like something Saruman would do.

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

Take a speed reading class then, although I doubt LoTR is the kind of novella that was meant to be read quickly. I will read them all again eventually, they strike me as the kind of books you can't grasp in one read.

Its not like that for me... its a matter of attention, I start reading too fast and the words get lost on me. I can read fast, but its like the words lose meaning when I do it. I don't know how to describe it. It's not a dyslexia thing, its kind of like trying to admire scenery from a car driving 100 miles per hour, things start to blur together... That's the best way I can describe it.