Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Theatrical Versions) - April 6, 2010

[serpheus]

I'm hiring 4 little people to watch it with and i'm also going to ask the old gray bearded wino i know to come over and walk past my tv every few minutes for that 3-D feeling!!

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by serpheus

I'm hiring 4 little people to watch it with and i'm also going to ask the old gray bearded wino i know to come over and walk past my tv every few minutes for that 3-D feeling!!

My wifes aunt is a little person!! She was an EWOK in Star Wars!!! True Story!

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by Fors*

You can even take down a weapon or two if you like from the wall if it will inspire you!

Sounds good, but we'd have to limit our discussions to the movie. After a few beers, we might get into "the usual" blu-ray.com forum arguement about lossy vs. lossless audio, or whether film grain is desirable, and the next thing you know someone will be getting beaned by Sauron's mace!

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

Sounds good, but we'd have to limit our discussions to the movie. After a few beers, we might get into "the usual" blu-ray.com forum arguement about lossy vs. lossless audio, or whether film grain is desirable, and the next thing you know someone will be getting beaned by Sauron's mace!

That is no mere trinket you carry. I can avoid being seen if I wish but to disappear entirely, that is a rare talent.

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

Sounds good, but we'd have to limit our discussions to the movie. After a few beers, we might get into "the usual" blu-ray.com forum arguement about lossy vs. lossless audio, or whether film grain is desirable, and the next thing you know someone will be getting beaned by Sauron's mace!

NO NO NO... its not lossy versus lossless that causes arguments... its DTS HD MA vs Dolby TrueHD... and that discussion has NO PLACE at a LotR viewing party... mark my words... Andúril strike down the evil being that brings that topic up... Cast HIM INTO MOUNT DOOM!!!

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

NO NO NO... its not lossy versus lossless that causes arguments... its DTS HD MA vs Dolby TrueHD... and that discussion has NO PLACE at a LotR viewing party... mark my words... Andúril strike down the evil being that brings that topic up... Cast HIM INTO MOUNT DOOM!!!

[Beta Man]

This is going to be like TDK release all over again.......1,000 HT Gallery updates with screen-shots

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by serpheus

I'm hiring 4 little people to watch it with and i'm also going to ask the old gray bearded wino i know to come over and walk past my tv every few minutes for that 3-D feeling!!

You sir, win the thread.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

That is no mere trinket you carry. I can avoid being seen if I wish but to disappear entirely, that is a rare talent.

I believe Aragorn says "gift", rather than "talent", at the end of that line.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Seretur

But Denethor is still a drooling fool, even in the EE.

I'll wait for the cut that finally shows him possessed by Sauron through his own palantír. How hard was that to put in, PJ, really?

But then this goes into the larger question of the post-FOTR Peter Jackson hubris, and by extension, New Line's, and people like Penton are vastly more qualified to talk about that.

For me, the highest definition that LOTR can ever be available in is Tolkien's masterful book. End of story.

Authority is not given you to deny the return of the King, Steward!
Gandalf! Denethor is burning Faramir alive!

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

Not the biggest fan of the other 2 main female stars, Blanchett or the bird who played Eowyn. Will admit Blanchett turned in quite a good and slightly chilling performance as the Elvish Queen of the wood, though.

I'm not sure Galadriel is supposed to be portrayed that way.

[Witch King of Angmar]

Gandalf the white is the best character in LOTR.

[bullets]

I think Gollum steals the show .

[Fighter]

Lurtz...always liked the Bad Boy

[SleeperAgent]

Treebeard ftw!!!

"A WIZARD SHOULD KNOW BETTER!!!"

Epic moment. Mental note, do NOT piss off the trees.

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by teracore

Gandalf the white is the best character in LOTR.

Gandalf is also my favorite character in the movie, and one of my favorites from the book. In a letter he wrote in November 1954 (after "The Two Towers" was first published), Tolkien described the purpose of 'Gandalf the White' in detail:

"There are naturally no precise modern terms to say what (Gandalf) was. I would venture to say that he was an incarnate 'angel' - with the other Istari, wizards, 'those who know', an emissary from the Lords of the West, sent to Middle-Earth, as the great crisis of Sauron loomed on the horizon. By 'incarnate' I mean they were embodied in physical bodies capable of pain, and weariness, and of afflicting the spirit with physical fear, and of being 'killed', though supported by the angelic spirit they might endure long, and only slowly show the wearing of care and labor.
Why they should take up such form is bound up the 'mythology' of the 'angelic' Powers of the world of this fable. At this point in the fabulous history the purpose was precisely to limit and hinder their exhibition of power on the physical plane, and so that they should do what they were primarily sent for: train, advise, instruct, arouse the hearts and minds of those threatened by Sauron to a resistance with their own strengths; and not just to do the job for them. They thus appeared as 'old' sage figures. But in this 'mythology', all of the 'angelic' powers were capable of many degrees of error and failing... The 'wizards' were not exempt, indeed being incarnate were more likely to stray, or err. Gandalf fully passes the tests, on a moral plane anyway (he makes mistakes of judgement). For in his condition it was a sacrifice to perish on the Bridge in defence of his companions, less perhaps than for a mortal Man or Hobbit, since he had a far greater inner power than they; but also more, since it was a humbling and abnegation of himself in conformity to 'the Rules'; for all he could know at the moment he was the only person who could direct the resistance to Sauron successfully, and all his mission was vain. He was handing over to the Authority that ordained the Rules, and giving up personal hope of success.
That is what I should say the Authority wished, as a set-off to Saruman. The 'wizards', as such, had failed; or if you like: the crisis had become too grave and needed an enhancement of power. So Gandalf sacrificed himself, was accepted, and enhanced, and returned (as Gandalf the White). 'Yes, that was the name. I was Gandalf'. Of course he remains similar in personality and idiosyncrasy, but both his wisdom and power are much greater. When he speaks he commands attention; the old Gandalf could not have dealt with Theoden, nor with Saruman. He is still under the obligation of concealing his power and teaching rather than forcing or dominating wills, but where the physical powers of the Enemy are too great for the good will of the opposers to be effective he can act in an emergency as an 'angel'. He seldom does so, but in one or two cases in the War he does reveal a sudden power; he twice rescues Faramir. He alone is left to forbid the entrance of the Lord of the Nazgul to Minas Tirith, when the City has been overthrown and the Gates destroyed ...
In the end before he departs forever he sums himself up: 'I was the enemy of Sauron'. He might have added: 'for that purpose I was sent to Middle-Earth. But by that he would have at the end have meant more than at the beginning. He was sent by a mere prudent plan of the angelic Valar or govenors; but Authority had taken up this plan and enlarged it, at the moment of its failure. 'Naked I was sent back - for a brief time, until my task is done.' Sent back by whom and whence? Not by the 'gods' whose business is only with this embodied world and its time; for he passed 'out of thought and time'. Naked is alas! unclear. It was meant just literally, 'unclothed like a child' (not discarnate), and so ready to receive the white robes of the highest. But if it is 'cheating' to treat 'death' as making no difference, embodiment must not be ignored. Gandalf may be enhanced in power, but if still embodied he must still suffer care and anxiety, and the needs of the flesh. In any case none of my 'angelic' persons are represented as knowing the future completely, or indeed at all where other wills are concerned.

[Fors*]

You can chalk up another Gandalf fan here.....whenever I played Dungeons and Dragons in the day, I was always a wizard.

[Fighter]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

Gandalf is also my favorite character in the movie, and one of my favorites from the book. In a letter he wrote in November 1954 (after "The Two Towers" was first published), Tolkien described the purpose of 'Gandalf the White' in detail:

"There are naturally no precise modern terms to say what (Gandalf) was. I would venture to say that he was an incarnate 'angel' - with the other Istari, wizards, 'those who know', an emissary from the Lords of the West, sent to Middle-Earth, as the great crisis of Sauron loomed on the horizon. By 'incarnate' I mean they were embodied in physical bodies capable of pain, and weariness, and of afflicting the spirit with physical fear, and of being 'killed', though supported by the angelic spirit they might endure long, and only slowly show the wearing of care and labor.
Why they should take up such form is bound up the 'mythology' of the 'angelic' Powers of the world of this fable. At this point in the fabulous history the purpose was precisely to limit and hinder their exhibition of power on the physical plane, and so that they should do what they were primarily sent for: train, advise, instruct, arouse the hearts and minds of those threatened by Sauron to a resistance with their own strengths; and not just to do the job for them. They thus appeared as 'old' sage figures. But in this 'mythology', all of the 'angelic' powers were capable of many degrees of error and failing... The 'wizards' were not exempt, indeed being incarnate were more likely to stray, or err. Gandalf fully passes the tests, on a moral plane anyway (he makes mistakes of judgement). For in his condition it was a sacrifice to perish on the Bridge in defence of his companions, less perhaps than for a mortal Man or Hobbit, since he had a far greater inner power than they; but also more, since it was a humbling and abnegation of himself in conformity to 'the Rules'; for all he could know at the moment he was the only person who could direct the resistance to Sauron successfully, and all his mission was vain. He was handing over to the Authority that ordained the Rules, and giving up personal hope of success.
That is what I should say the Authority wished, as a set-off to Saruman. The 'wizards', as such, had failed; or if you like: the crisis had become too grave and needed an enhancement of power. So Gandalf sacrificed himself, was accepted, and enhanced, and returned (as Gandalf the White). 'Yes, that was the name. I was Gandalf'. Of course he remains similar in personality and idiosyncrasy, but both his wisdom and power are much greater. When he speaks he commands attention; the old Gandalf could not have dealt with Theoden, nor with Saruman. He is still under the obligation of concealing his power and teaching rather than forcing or dominating wills, but where the physical powers of the Enemy are too great for the good will of the opposers to be effective he can act in an emergency as an 'angel'. He seldom does so, but in one or two cases in the War he does reveal a sudden power; he twice rescues Faramir. He alone is left to forbid the entrance of the Lord of the Nazgul to Minas Tirith, when the City has been overthrown and the Gates destroyed ...
In the end before he departs forever he sums himself up: 'I was the enemy of Sauron'. He might have added: 'for that purpose I was sent to Middle-Earth. But by that he would have at the end have meant more than at the beginning. He was sent by a mere prudent plan of the angelic Valar or govenors; but Authority had taken up this plan and enlarged it, at the moment of its failure. 'Naked I was sent back - for a brief time, until my task is done.' Sent back by whom and whence? Not by the 'gods' whose business is only with this embodied world and its time; for he passed 'out of thought and time'. Naked is alas! unclear. It was meant just literally, 'unclothed like a child' (not discarnate), and so ready to receive the white robes of the highest. But if it is 'cheating' to treat 'death' as making no difference, embodiment must not be ignored. Gandalf may be enhanced in power, but if still embodied he must still suffer care and anxiety, and the needs of the flesh. In any case none of my 'angelic' persons are represented as knowing the future completely, or indeed at all where other wills are concerned.

Seriously, that post is a little long brother!

I have the books @ home...hahaha

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by Fighter

Seriously, that post is a little long brother!

I have the books @ home...hahaha

It's not even the entire letter! If you ever get a chance to browse through his "letters" you'll see he was not necessarily a 'terse' individual.

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by Fors*

You can chalk up another Gandalf fan here.....whenever I played Dungeons and Dragons in the day, I was always a wizard.

YES!!! D&D fans UNITE!!!