Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Theatrical Versions) - April 6, 2010

[neo78956]

Originally Posted by frezaina

YES. the CGI is much more noticeable now in HD. but even after almost 10 years! Gollum and treebeard still are for me the best animated caracters ever created!

That the visuals can hold up after nearly 10 years is pretty astonishing. I think that speaks to the quality of the films more than anything. Gollum, Davey Jones, and King Kong paved the way for Avatar.

[Batman1980]

If you had any doubts that Gollum was insane, that scene where he gets into an argument with Smeagol about the Hobbits should've erased them.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

I don't get why everyone thinks the effects should be less impressive due to the resolution of Blu-ray. Film has a higher resolution, so if it looked good in the theater, it looks good here.

I suppose they look dated if you're comparing them to brand new 2010-era effects - but that's beyond unfair. The effects were always going to become dated sooner or later. That's why it's so great that the films have so much heart and soul. The effects aren't the important part.

[neo78956]

Originally Posted by Aragorn84

I don't get why everyone thinks the effects should be less impressive due to the resolution of Blu-ray. Film has a higher resolution, so if it looked good in the theater, it looks good here.

I suppose they look dated if you're comparing them to brand new 2010-era effects - but that's beyond unfair. The effects were always going to become dated sooner or later. That's why it's so great that the films have so much heart and soul. The effects aren't the important part.

QFT

I was just noticing that it might not look as seamless, but no less impressive

[frezaina]

Originally Posted by neo78956

qft

i was just noticing that it might not look as seamless, but no less impressive

exactly

[neo78956]

Plus, like I was saying, the physical creations i.e. the costumes, sets, camera work, makeup, etc always shone through for me more than the CGI did in terms of visuals, as the world of Middle Earth was so meticulously crafted that you never once doubted it was real while watching the films.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by neo78956

That the visuals can hold up after nearly 10 years is pretty astonishing. I think that speaks to the quality of the films more than anything. Gollum, Davey Jones, and King Kong paved the way for Avatar.

Don't forget Jurassic Park.

[frezaina]

Originally Posted by neo78956

Plus, like I was saying, the physical creations i.e. the costumes, sets, camera work, makeup, etc always shone through for me more than the CGI did in terms of visuals, as the world of Middle Earth was so meticulously crafted that you never once doubted it was real while watching the films.

that's because of that world that was created around the movie that LOTR has a HUGE fan base and it will always be remembered even 20 years from know. in 5 years people will not remember avatar.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by frezaina

that's because of that world that was created around the movie that LOTR has a HUGE fan base and it will always be remembered even 20 years from know. in 5 years people will not remember avatar.

I will remember Avatar until senile dementia sets in and I start forgetting everything. I would even compare the world Cameron created on Pandora to the world Peter Jackson created with Middle Earth.

[Diesel]

Gollum specifically "paved the way" for Avatar.

He was the character that convinced Cameron the motion capture was close to the point where it needed to be for Avatar.

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by Diesel

Gollum specifically "paved the way" for Avatar.

He was the character that convinced Cameron the motion capture was close to the point where it needed to be for Avatar.

IMO he looked more convincing that the creatures of Avatar.

[frezaina]

i have high expectations for the hobbit although i don't really know what to expect!

[neo78956]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

Don't forget Jurassic Park.

Until LOTR came around, I had always thought Jurassic Park had a stranglehold on greatest visual effects of all time. I can't believe I forgot that one.

The movies that changed movies in terms of tech would be

2001 A Space Odyssey
Star Wars trilogy
Jurassic Park
LOTR
Avatar

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

IMO he looked more convincing that the creatures of Avatar.

I didn't think he looked that impressive at all.

The technology behind putting him on screen = impressive to me.

The actual look of the character = not.



IMO Davy Jones is better than Gollum...and the avatars/Na'vi (though they looked incredible)...yea I said it.

Originally Posted by neo78956

Until LOTR came around, I had always thought Jurassic Park had a stranglehold on greatest visual effects of all time. I can't believe I forgot that one.

The movies that changed movies in terms of tech would be

2001 A Space Odyssey
Star Wars trilogy
Jurassic Park
LOTR
Avatar

I'd put Terminator 2 on that list, the effects in that one are still quite good today and better than some current movies...20 years later.

[frezaina]

Originally Posted by Diesel

I didn't think he looked that impressive at all.

The technology behind putting him on screen = impressive to me.

The actual look of the character = not.



IMO Davy Jones is better than Gollum...and the avatars/Na'vi (though they looked incredible)...yea I said it.



I'd put Terminator 2 on that list, the effects in that one are still quite good today. It also came before Jurassic Park.

of course compared with today's tech it's not impressive anymore. but in 2002/03 there was nothing like it. not just gollum but treebeard as well.

[serpheus]

Originally Posted by Diesel

I didn't think he looked that impressive at all.

The technology behind putting him on screen = impressive to me.

The actual look of the character = not.



IMO Davy Jones is better than Gollum...and the avatars/Na'vi (though they looked incredible)...yea I said it.



I'd put Terminator 2 on that list, the effects in that one are still quite good today and better than some current movies...20 years later.

I would put The Matrix there too.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by frezaina

of course compared with today's tech it's not impressive anymore. but in 2002/03 there was nothing like it. not just gollum but treebeard as well.

I was never impressed with Gollum period. Not just compared to today's stuff.

I thought the other effects in the films looked much better (since you mentioned Treebeard, I thought he looked awesome).

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

Here are a few nice ones from AVS of the 'Fellowship' that that look pretty darn good.

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Are they from the guy with the actual disc?


BTW, all I see is "bandwidth exceeded".

[frezaina]

Originally Posted by Diesel

I was never impressed with Gollum period. Not just compared to today's stuff.

I thought the other effects in the films looked much better (since you mentioned Treebeard, I thought he looked awesome).

when you see the movie in blu ray you will realise that gollum and treebeard are the only CGI that still isn't very noticeable. in hd the orcs, the digital horses, minas tirith and helm's deep now become very easy to see that they were CGI ... with the DVD i never noticed that.

[serpheus]

Originally Posted by Diesel

I was never impressed with Gollum period. Not just compared to today's stuff.

I thought the other effects in the films looked much better (since you mentioned Treebeard, I thought he looked awesome).

I personally thought the whole trilogy hung on the way gollum was portrayed and the way he looked.