Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Theatrical Versions) - April 6, 2010

[tkdkid717]

But they have already done that with some things. They re-re-mastered gangs of new york, and they are doing gladiator again if im not mistaken.

[DJ Manyak]

buy what you wanna buy our opinions will differ

[Blu Titan]

I'll be buying on Tuesday and I can't wait. If FOTR is not up to par so be it. Every review I have read indicates that even FOTR is an improvement over DVD on the PQ, and all of the movies blow the DVD and any kind of HD broadcast out of the water on the AQ side. Enjoying films entails viewing and listening . I have held off watching my LOTR DVDs for over two years, and next weekend will be a LOTR marathon for me. However, there are people who will spend weeks reviewing screenshots posted in the Internet...and not even bother to see the movies.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by tkdkid717

I know they are not the extended editions, but they are still good. How long would it be till we get the extended cuts? im hearing 2012. I knw that there is some issues with the picture quality, but it is still better than the dvd. What do you guys think? i mean, i have seen the extended cuts and found myself getting bored due to the length. Also, can someone please upload a picture of the slip cover and inside cases, i know there were a couple floating around here at some point.

The big question is: How much do you want to spend on these films?

For myself, I've already double dipped on the franchise. I purchased the theatrical DVDs when they were release ($75 + tax). I purchased the extended editions when they were released ($120 + tax). If I purchase these theatricals on Blu-rays ($60 + tax) and then the extended editions on Blu-ray (guessing $100 + tax), I will have given over $400 for one set of films.As good as they are, THEY ARE NOT WORTH THAT KIND OF QUADRUPLE DIP! ESPECIALLY NOT AFTER HAVING SEEN THE EXTENDED EDITIONS!

[tkdkid717]

I posted this in another thread i made but i was told to come here. I was contemplating buying but i have some worries

"im worried about something else. What if they remaster the picture again when they release the movies separately. Then i will feel like i got gypped. Then i dont want to see them redo the picture quality yet again when they release the extended editions."

[Mrillmatic27]

I'm just gonna rent them so i can get my fix till the EE's come out

[ack_bak]

Originally Posted by batiatus

That is straight-up false.

Yeah, that is why I posted a trusted review from this very site to point out the frustrations with the PQ. I don't understand this blind fan-boy mentality. I love Blu-Ray. I have bought close to 300 movies on the format and have rented countless others. But come on. LOTR deserved better, and so do the consumers that buy it.

But hey, maybe Warner will listen to some of the criticism and do something about it for the next release.

[ack_bak]

Originally Posted by tkdkid717

I posted this in another thread i made but i was told to come here. I was contemplating buying but i have some worries
"im worried about something else. What if they remaster the picture again when they release the movies separately. Then i will feel like i got gypped. Then i dont want to see them redo the picture quality yet again when they release the extended editions."

I recommend renting it first. If you think the PQ is good enough you can always grab it on a sale lather this year.

If you are not happy, you can wait and see what happens when the EE's are released.

I don't expect Warner to remaster the theatrical edition anytime soon though.
Netflix/Blockbuster for the win.

[Vendetta-akk]

This is a little thing compared to the fact that the wide majority of reviewers seem to feel like the failed on Video Quality, but I don't like the fact that the shell casing is made to hold a seperate case specifically for digial copies.

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by ack_bak

Yeah, that is why I posted a trusted review from this very site to point out the frustrations with the PQ. I don't understand this blind fan-boy mentality. I love Blu-Ray. I have bought close to 300 movies on the format and have rented countless others. But come on. LOTR deserved better, and so do the consumers that buy it.

But hey, maybe Warner will listen to some of the criticism and do something about it for the next release.

+1

I still have hope that they will do the next release or releases right and that is why we should not be quiet and not accept this. If we dont let them know that this is not OK, we will continue to get sub-par releases like this one

[tkdkid717]

can someone post more comparison screens other than that one of bilbos birthday party?

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

Oh I'm talking the pointless "YOUR debate skills are weak compared to MY debate skills" type of posts.

Originally Posted by Brandon

Yeah I feel you there. That's annoying. "that's a fallacy, oh that's a straw man, that's a red herring." That doesn't make you sound smarter, people. Just more annoying. FYI.

Those posts are only slightly less annoying than the "I'm more perceptive and sensitive to DNR than you" type of blowhardery.
Complaining more about DNR doesn't mean you're more "sensitive" to it, it just shows that you make the absurd assumption that if people aren't complaining about it then they can't see it.

[Spike Killer]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

It's going to be easy for Star Wars, most people won't be buying them since they will be the Special Edition and 90% of members here hate them

Anyone know if LOTR are available for renting?

90% huh?

That seems high. If Lucas didn't release the Special Editions on Blu-Ray I wouldn't buy it.

SE > Theatrical release

LOTR deserves more than just an HD transfer with a DVD of a few extras from a previous release. This is just the first release of many I'm sure will come.

[Blu Myers]

I will definitely buy Star Wars on blu-ray...and I actually prefer the special edition, especially the Sith's proper placement in Empire.

[mrpink134]

Originally Posted by Todd Smith

Why cant I discuss this? Last I checked this was a discussion forum? If you dont want to discuss this, why respond to my post??? Kind of a crazy question. I should quit discussing this because one forum member who I am not familiar with who has a 108" screen found these transfers to be better than expected and just ignore all the posters who I have grown to trust through the years who found just the opposite? Not going to happen.

OK, what about Ken, Xylon, Dave, etc, etc, etc who all hold the opinion that IT IS as bad as people have been saying? Personally, and I mean no disrespect toward the members on here, I put MUCH more weight into Kens, Daves, and Xylons reviews which are all (or were in Kens case) backed up by actual evidence supporting what they are talking about. Not to mention these individuals have a much more critical eye than most of the people on this board (again, no offense, but it is true) which is more in-line with how I commonly see these films in my HT, all are using larger screens/projectors like I am (and many others), etc.........If you know and trust the opinions of those on this board in relation to what you commonly find, then you should put more weight into these opinions as compared to Kens, Daves, Xylons, etc........I am just the opposite as I am NOT familiar with the posters on this board (most of them at least) as far as how they view things in relation to how I commonly view things. I am however very familiar with the individuals I mention and their batting average so to speak in relation to what I commonly see in my HT is VERY close which is why I put more weight in their court.

Ultimately and Finaly though, and I think we can both agree on this, each individual needs to decide for themselves with their own eyes, on their own equipment, in their own rooms, etc...........considering this, it is impossible that all of us will agree on ANY title.

As far as expecting the worst and getting surprised that it is not as bad as some have said, there are so many reasons why this is happening and will always happen........does this really surprise you considering all the variables and different levels of experience from one user to the next? Does this really surprise you considering how harshly some of the more critical eyes in the HT community have rated this in relation to the average joe who does not have as critical of an eye (in general)? Does it really surprise you when most people (not all) are viewing these on smaller sets with larger non-optimal seating distances which makes seeing flaws (as well as all the detail 1080p has to offer) considerably harder? I could go on, but you get the point. It is all subjective how much or little these issues on these 3 movies bother you and for a variety of reasons.

thats what you have been doing for the last 30-50 pages. You say people have a right to there opinion, but when someone says that its ok or better than they thought, you counter them basically telling them they are wrong. Hypercritical I think.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by ack_bak

Yeah, that is why I posted a trusted review from this very site to point out the frustrations with the PQ. I don't understand this blind fan-boy mentality. I love Blu-Ray. I have bought close to 300 movies on the format and have rented countless others. But come on. LOTR deserved better, and so do the consumers that buy it.

But hey, maybe Warner will listen to some of the criticism and do something about it for the next release.

Yeah it deserves better. but it is not as bad as people make it out to be. And actually there is more positive reviews then negative reviews. Just saying

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by Spike Killer

90% huh?

That seems high. If Lucas didn't release the Special Editions on Blu-Ray I wouldn't buy it.

SE > Theatrical release

LOTR deserves more than just an HD transfer with a DVD of a few extras from a previous release. This is just the first release of many I'm sure will come.

+1, twice.

This is so obviously the first of a stream of releases that will include special editions and remasters. The DVD track-record of Jackson's two blockbusters should make that clear. I'm seeing far too much Chicken-Little behavior over this one.

... and again on the SE of 'Star Wars'. God forbid Lucas should make his classic even better.

[Q?]

Originally Posted by mrpink134

thats what you have been doing for the last 30-50 pages. You say people have a right to there opinion, but when someone says that its ok or better than they thought, you counter them basically telling them they are wrong. Hypercritical I think.

Read it again

What he's saying is there are problems, but how it will affect different people will vary because of different factors.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Todd Smith

Why cant I discuss this? Last I checked this was a discussion forum? If you dont want to discuss this, why respond to my post??? Kind of a crazy question. I should quit discussing this because one forum member who I am not familiar with who has a 108" screen found these transfers to be better than expected and just ignore all the posters who I have grown to trust through the years who found just the opposite? Not going to happen.

OK, what about Ken, Xylon, Dave, etc, etc, etc who all hold the opinion that IT IS as bad as people have been saying? Personally, and I mean no disrespect toward the members on here, I put MUCH more weight into Kens, Daves, and Xylons reviews which are all (or were in Kens case) backed up by actual evidence supporting what they are talking about. Not to mention these individuals have a much more critical eye than most of the people on this board (again, no offense, but it is true) which is more in-line with how I commonly see these films in my HT, all are using larger screens/projectors like I am (and many others), etc.........If you know and trust the opinions of those on this board in relation to what you commonly find, then you should put more weight into these opinions as compared to Kens, Daves, Xylons, etc........I am just the opposite as I am NOT familiar with the posters on this board (most of them at least) as far as how they view things in relation to how I commonly view things. I am however very familiar with the individuals I mention and their batting average so to speak in relation to what I commonly see in my HT is VERY close which is why I put more weight in their court.

Ultimately and Finaly though, and I think we can both agree on this, each individual needs to decide for themselves with their own eyes, on their own equipment, in their own rooms, etc...........considering this, it is impossible that all of us will agree on ANY title.

As far as expecting the worst and getting surprised that it is not as bad as some have said, there are so many reasons why this is happening and will always happen........does this really surprise you considering all the variables and different levels of experience from one user to the next? Does this really surprise you considering how harshly some of the more critical eyes in the HT community have rated this in relation to the average joe who does not have as critical of an eye (in general)? Does it really surprise you when most people (not all) are viewing these on smaller sets with larger non-optimal seating distances which makes seeing flaws (as well as all the detail 1080p has to offer) considerably harder? I could go on, but you get the point. It is all subjective how much or little these issues on these 3 movies bother you and for a variety of reasons.

Smaller sets?
There has been people with 50" screens and Up as well that has said they does not look as bad as some people say

And yes it is a big deal when you expect the worst and then get surprised to find it actually rather good.
You wanna know why that is, its because when you have your mind set on something it is very hard to change it. Its the same when you go to the theater and watch a movie and you expect the worst, chances are when you have seen it you still would think the worst about it.
To change that outcome is a really big deal and the experience will have to be great to change that

[jonmoz]

Well i have just finished watching "The two towers",and it seems the forum has moved on a fair bit since then,well it is a long movie i suppose,and some of the battle's on this forum would rival "helms deep".

Back to the movie,the picture quality was a little sharper than Fellowship,and i have to be fair the looked pretty good to me all the way through,the tone of the second film is a lot darker then the first,so gone is the fairytale look and is replaced by a more gritty war like feel.

The sound again like Fellowship is top notch,and captures the battle scenes perfectly,the score is dramatic as ever and feels like you could be there.These Hi def audio formats never fail to impress me.

Back to the boxsets picture quality,i have now watched a big part of the trilogy,only "The return of the king" remains,and by all accounts there is little wrong with this transfer,i have to say i am very impressed with these Blu-ray's and even the worst transfer the Fellowship's minor issues did not drag me from the movie,in fact i have enjoyed every minute i have spent in front of my screen.

Now i take my movie viewing pretty seriously,and i have spent a lot of time getting my cinema room perfect for viewing movies,and recently have watched a wide range of movies "The dark knight" was the last film before i watched the Fellowship,and it is a better transfer,but as i have said before you can't compare two movies like this.

Ask me the question could this release be any better,and i will say of course it can,the question is how much? but up to now is this release the total disaster some people make it out to be,i would say no and have no regrets in buying this boxset.

Now of course people will point out that this is my opinion,but as i have said before people have to look at this release with their own eyes,and make up their own mind,and respect each others opinion.All this talk about certain people being more qualified than others to judge is unfair,as i am not going to let someone tell me what to think on this matter,and no one else should for that matter,o.k reviewers play an important role,but just remember it's their job to point out faults,and what is distracting in a review situation,may not be so for someone while they are in the middle of a movie,getting dragged along by the whole experience of it.

So as i said before rent these movies or buy if you prefer,and watch them on your set-up and decide for yourself on their quality,and try to keep an open mind,you may be surprised.