Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Theatrical Versions) - April 6, 2010

[Bunker]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

On that article...WTH is going on with Frodo's face?

Delicious brownies?

[dcowboy7]

Originally Posted by deeman54

how is this a debate when cable/satelite only broadcast 1080i

Nope....Directv has pay-per-view that is 1080p.

[BankytheHack]

Originally Posted by radagast

The problem is, when they deviated from the story, it looked like typical, cheesy, Hollywood shlock. There's more to good moviemaking than expanding fight scenes for the sake of making it look like a video game. Good moviemaking doesn't sacrifice storyline, plot, and characters in order to make a fantastic action movie.

The personalities, as Tolkien defined them, were part of the charm of the story. Both Bakshi and Jackson rewrote the story. I'm not talking about leaving out Bombadil or the scouring of the Shire, either.

You're never going to get a 100% faithful adaptation of LOTR that isn't a 20 hour mini-series, and even then, audiences might hate it.

Books aren't movies, and movies aren't books. Things have to be changed to fit to the cinematic format. I know that doesn't count when talking about character, but you must also know that this is Jackson, Walsh, and Boyens' interpretation of Tolkien's work, and I for one think they got the spirit of the work right. I don't mind that Aragorn isn't running around with a broken Narsil or ready to claim his throne as soon as they leave Rivendell. I also don't care about other changes such as Faramir, because at the end of the day, those changes made for a better cinematic product.

Going back to that article you linked to: I think her most egregious complaint is how "Two Towers" and "Return of the King" were not structured like they were in the book. Isn't it just basic knowledge that books and movies can be structured very differently? It's hard to take her criticisms seriously when she obviously doesn't understand basic differences between print narratives and cinematic narratives.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Musketeer

If people want to complain try being a R. A. Heinlein fan and sitting in a theater to watch Starship Troopers. That is a painful experience where every aspect of the story was thrown out and replaced with 90210 nude models fighting bugs with no attetion to characters or story. There you saw what could have been a great movie destroyed for a least a generation or more.

Oh! How I wish you would not have remind me of that

[lDlisturb3d]

Originally Posted by dcowboy7

Nope....Directv has pay-per-view that is 1080p.

ohh are you sure, i didn't know that and i have direct tv LOL.

[aggienader08]

Originally Posted by dcowboy7

Nope....Directv has pay-per-view that is 1080p.

That couldn't be any more irrelevant.

[dcowboy7]

Originally Posted by deeman54

ohh are you sure, i didn't know that and i have direct tv LOL.

Yep:

El Segundo, Calif. — Continuing to sharpen up the HD viewing experience, DIRECTV is now offering the most movies in 1080p, the highest resolution format available for HD video enthusiasts and the same format used by Blu-Ray HD DVDs.

They are listed in the program guide dont know how u wouldnt know.

[dcowboy7]

Originally Posted by aggienader08

That couldn't be any more irrelevant.

No idea what that means.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by dcowboy7

Yep:

El Segundo, Calif. — Continuing to sharpen up the HD viewing experience, DIRECTV is now offering the most movies in 1080p, the highest resolution format available for HD video enthusiasts and the same format used by Blu-Ray HD DVDs.

They are listed in the program guide.

What's a blu-ray HD DVD?

[dcowboy7]

Im surprised they didnt spell it blue....probably some dumb intern getting minimum wage doin the website.

[Riff Magnum]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

Let's get away from that off-topic crap and share some new impressions of the movies -
I'm far more attracted to Miranda Otto than I used to be
I now think Sam was the main Hobbit
I like Theoden more than Aragorn
I don't like Bilbo that much but I think the 2 Hobbit films will fix that
Not sure any more if I still like Boromir more than Eomer.

Off topic crap? Honestly, i think the possibility that the people, races, creatures, and characters of Middle Earth are actually based on "real" history or myths from here on our world might actually further a more interesting discussion than which character we think is the coolest.

[Wdm81]

I'm was initially waiting for the EE, but honestly that is like a good two years away, plus the theatrical versions are still great in fact ROtK won an oscer, not for the EE but for the version we got in theatres, so anyone wishing to own all best picture movies should be interested in owning this set

I was originally at 30/70 in favour of not getting it but now i'm at a good 50/50 about whether to purchase this set, is it worth it?

[BankytheHack]

Originally Posted by Wdm81

I'm was initially waiting for the EE, but honestly that is like a good two years away, plus the theatrical versions are still great in fact ROtK won an oscer, not for the EE but for the version we got in theatres, so anyone wishing to own all best picture movies should be interested in owning this set

I was originally at 30/70 in favour of not getting it but now i'm at a good 50/50 about whether to purchase this set, is it worth it?

The DTS-MA tracks are worth the purchase alone.

[BLU_Until_The_End]

Originally Posted by Bunker

Delicious brownies?

^^^ Hardest laugh of the day by far

[lDlisturb3d]

Originally Posted by Wdm81

I'm was initially waiting for the EE, but honestly that is like a good two years away, plus the theatrical versions are still great in fact ROtK won an oscer, not for the EE but for the version we got in theatres, so anyone wishing to own all best picture movies should be interested in owning this set

I was originally at 30/70 in favour of not getting it but now i'm at a good 50/50 about whether to purchase this set, is it worth it?

17 oscars in total

[Blurred]

Originally Posted by wdm81

i'm was initially waiting for the ee, but honestly that is like a good two years away, plus the theatrical versions are still great in fact rotk won an oscer, not for the ee but for the version we got in theatres, so anyone wishing to own all best picture movies should be interested in owning this set

i was originally at 30/70 in favour of not getting it but now i'm at a good 50/50 about whether to purchase this set, is it worth it?

yes!

[KubrickFan]

Originally Posted by Musketeer

If people want to complain try being a R. A. Heinlein fan and sitting in a theater to watch Starship Troopers. That is a painful experience where every aspect of the story was thrown out and replaced with 90210 nude models fighting bugs with no attetion to characters or story. There you saw what could have been a great movie destroyed for a least a generation or more.

It might not have been like the novel (haven't read it, so I can't comment on that) but if you think there's no story in Starship Troopers then you really need to watch it again.

[BluLobsta]

They have a full page ad on the back cover of the May issue of Home Theater Magazine for LOTR. First time I have seen a full page ad for a Blu

[dcowboy7]

Originally Posted by BluLobsta

They have a full page ad on the back cover of the May issue of Home Theater Magazine for LOTR. First time I have seen a full page ad for a Blu

Yea saw that...also saw an add in entertainment weekly i think 3 issues ago.

[BaronVH]

Originally Posted by BankytheHack

You're never going to get a 100% faithful adaptation of LOTR that isn't a 20 hour mini-series, and even then, audiences might hate it.

Books aren't movies, and movies aren't books. Things have to be changed to fit to the cinematic format. I know that doesn't count when talking about character, but you must also know that this is Jackson, Walsh, and Boyens' interpretation of Tolkien's work, and I for one think they got the spirit of the work right. I don't mind that Aragorn isn't running around with a broken Narsil or ready to claim his throne as soon as they leave Rivendell. I also don't care about other changes such as Faramir, because at the end of the day, those changes made for a better cinematic product.

Going back to that article you linked to: I think her most egregious complaint is how "Two Towers" and "Return of the King" were not structured like they were in the book. Isn't it just basic knowledge that books and movies can be structured very differently? It's hard to take her criticisms seriously when she obviously doesn't understand basic differences between print narratives and cinematic narratives.

I agree with almost all of what you said with the exception of the Scouring of the Shire. At the time the movies were made, I have no doubt that it was the right decision to excise, but I think they had no idea how much money these movies would go on to make. I think had they known how successful they were going to be, they might have had a truncated version with Sauruman getting the shaft so to speak.