Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Theatrical Versions) - April 6, 2010

[Blu Myers]

This is good news as far as I'm concerned. I don't like the casing for the box set. I prefer individual case for my movie shelf. I got a feeling we'll see these at Amazon for around $10 one day...hopefully.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by radagast

Now WB has announced the movies are going to be released on Blu separately. Why bother?

Like Leem said, some people want individual cases, and some people actually only like one or two of the movies.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Diesel

Like Leem said, some people want individual cases, and some people actually only like one or two of the movies.

This means I can sell the set I have now and hopefully buy the new movies for a little less than I did the trilogy!

[Diesel]

It be much easier (and cheaper) to just buy some empty regular 2 disc cases and put them in there.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Diesel

It be much easier (and cheaper) to just buy some empty regular 2 disc cases and put them in there.

I don't buy blu-ray cases, besides I suck at printing cover art for movies.

[rockyoumonkeys]

Originally Posted by Diesel

It be much easier (and cheaper) to just buy some empty regular 2 disc cases and put them in there.

You're employing your own internal logic to our behavior.

Real life doesn't work that way.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Diesel

It be much easier (and cheaper) to just buy some empty regular 2 disc cases and put them in there.

Nice street English.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by rockyoumonkeys

Why not?

Originally Posted by Diesel

Like Leem said, some people want individual cases, and some people actually only like one or two of the movies.

Because it's one long story. And I would think most people who want the movies have already bought the box set. Individual cases can be bought by the people who already bought the boxset. So I don't think these will sell well at all.

[rockyoumonkeys]

Originally Posted by radagast

Because it's one long story.

Who cares? So is Star Wars, but people still prefer one movie over another.

And besides, it's not a reason NOT to release them separately. It may be one "story" but it's still three movies.

By your absurd logic, they should have just released it to theaters as one ten-hour long movie.

[KubrickFan]

Originally Posted by rockyoumonkeys

Who cares? So is Star Wars, but people still prefer one movie over another.

And besides, it's not a reason NOT to release them separately. It may be one "story" but it's still three movies.

By your absurd logic, they should have just released it to theaters as one ten-hour long movie.

But I don't know people who just buy Empire Strikes Back and not the rest of the trilogy/saga (whatever floats your boat). Are there really people who would only buy one part of the LOTR trilogy without buying the rest? I highly doubt it.

[rockyoumonkeys]

It's amazing that people are arguing this much about something that doesn't really matter.

Like, is this plan to release them separately somehow a problem for you?

[radagast]

Originally Posted by rockyoumonkeys

Who cares? So is Star Wars, but people still prefer one movie over another.

And besides, it's not a reason NOT to release them separately. It may be one "story" but it's still three movies.

By your absurd logic, they should have just released it to theaters as one ten-hour long movie.

Your absurd example of Star Wars isn't the same. Star Wars is set up as 6 separate episodes, as in a serial. Episode 5 had the only serious cliffhanger that was resolved in Episode 6. My logic is not absurd at all. Most Star Wars movies can be viewed as stand alone movies. Not so with Lord of the Rings. Especially when you consider that the author viewed LoTR as one long story. You need a class in logic.

Originally Posted by rockyoumonkeys

It's amazing that people are arguing this much about something that doesn't really matter.

Like, is this plan to release them separately somehow a problem for you?

I think it's a bad marketing idea, but I am not upset at anything but your stupid comments. Why is my opinion that it's a bad marketing idea a problem for you? You seem to be the one that can't deal with one side of the issue. If it doesn't really matter, then why are you foaming at the mouth?

Add to that all the anger about the Extended Editions not being available on Blu and their decision to release the TEs AGAIN on Blu makes even less sense.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by radagast

Nice street English.

Whoops

[Show spoiler]Ma bad dog, ya nah mean homeboy?

I have a couple of friends who only like Two Towers, so its not like its unheard of for someone to only like one of the movies

[rockyoumonkeys]

Originally Posted by radagast

I think it's a bad marketing idea, but I am not upset at anything but your stupid comments. Why is my opinion that it's a bad marketing idea a problem for you? You seem to be the one that can't deal with one side of the issue. If it doesn't really matter, then why are you foaming at the mouth?

Way to turn a losing argument around on the other person, skippy. You were and are the only one losing your mind over this.

My point was and continues to be, there's no special reason NOT to sell them separately. You go on and on about how it's "one story" and should be sold as one entity, but again, the movies were released separately in the theaters, and you bought the tickets separately. There's no reason to FORCE people to buy all the movies as part of one set, just like there was no reason to force people to buy one $30 movie ticket for the three movies; and there are at least a few reasons why selling them separately could be desirable to some people.

"Bad marketing"? How so? And bad for who? Do you think people are going to be tricked into buying just the third movie or something? Are you concerned that WB is going to lose money here? Because I promise you, they won't.

If you don't want to buy them separately, don't. But don't act like the people who do buy them separately are doing it wrong.

EDIT: And it's crystal clear that you're just an unreasonable LOTR fanboy, and think it's any of your business how other people choose to enjoy the movies.

It's not.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Diesel

Whoops

[Show spoiler]Ma bad dog, ya nah mean homeboy?

I have a couple of friends who only like Two Towers, so its not like its unheard of for someone to only like one of the movies

I understand people liking one movie more than another in the LoTR trilogy, but it's still only part of the story. At the end of TT, Frodo is captured by the Orcs and Gandalf is riding to Minas Tirith. Hardly a great way to end the story. Still, to each his (or her) own.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by rockyoumonkeys

Way to turn a losing argument around on the other person, skippy. You were and are the only one losing your mind over this.

My point was and continues to be, there's no special reason NOT to sell them separately. You go on and on about how it's "one story" and should be sold as one entity, but again, the movies were released separately in the theaters, and you bought the tickets separately. There's no reason to FORCE people to buy all the movies as part of one set, just like there was no reason to force people to buy one $30 movie ticket for the three movies; and there are at least a few reasons why selling them separately could be desirable to some people.

"Bad marketing"? How so? And bad for who? Do you think people are going to be tricked into buying just the third movie or something? Are you concerned that WB is going to lose money here? Because I promise you, they won't.

If you don't want to buy them separately, don't. But don't act like the people who do buy them separately are doing it wrong.

And you just proved that you don't get my point, chump. I was just giving my opinion and you got all flaming about it first, so don't try to say I started this. At least show some honesty.
There is no special reason not to sell them separately. There's no special reason to sell them separately either.

I am not worried about WB losing money. How in the world did you manage to pull that out of your a**? Talk about coming out of left field.

Bad marketing? Yes. Most people who want the TEs bought the boxset. Do you seriously think there are a lot of people who want the TEs that DIDN'T buy the boxset? If you think there are a lot of them out there, you are crazy. There are likely some people who didn't want to spend that much all at once, but there are a lot fewer of them than the ones who bought the boxset.

Do you know of any examples where a boxset came out first and then the movies came out separately and they sold very well?

Please continue your absurd posts. I am going to pop some popcorn and have some laughs.

[rockyoumonkeys]

Yeah, I'm the crazy one. Sure.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by rockyoumonkeys

Way to turn a losing argument around on the other person, skippy. You were and are the only one losing your mind over this.

My point was and continues to be, there's no special reason NOT to sell them separately. You go on and on about how it's "one story" and should be sold as one entity, but again, the movies were released separately in the theaters, and you bought the tickets separately. There's no reason to FORCE people to buy all the movies as part of one set, just like there was no reason to force people to buy one $30 movie ticket for the three movies; and there are at least a few reasons why selling them separately could be desirable to some people.

"Bad marketing"? How so? And bad for who? Do you think people are going to be tricked into buying just the third movie or something? Are you concerned that WB is going to lose money here? Because I promise you, they won't.

If you don't want to buy them separately, don't. But don't act like the people who do buy them separately are doing it wrong.

EDIT: And it's crystal clear that you're just an unreasonable LOTR fanboy, and think it's any of your business how other people choose to enjoy the movies.

It's not.

You have multiple absurdities in this post. I don't know of anyone else on this forum that's managed to do that. Congratulations.

Absurdity #1: Of course no one had to pay one price for all three movies in the theatre. THEY WEREN'T OUT AT THE SAME TIME.

Absurdity #2: How many people who liked the first movie DID NOT see the other two? If they didn't like the first one, they wouldn't buy it on Blu-ray either.

Now for an example that makes more sense: Sometime after Return of the King came out, there were several theatres that had a marathon of all 3 movies back to back. I don't know if there were separate tickets for all three movies, but how many people who went to that, only wanted to see one of the three movies? If the marathons were shown on more than one day, it's possible that some people split it up over more than one day. However, they would have been far fewer than the number that stayed for all 3.

Well, Brainiac, show us some more of your "dazzling" logic. I'm not an unreasonable fanboy (nice attempt at divertiing your lame argument and logic with an ad hominem attack). Just as there are very few people who would have gone to the LoTR marathon to see one movie, there are very few who will want to buy them separately on Blu-ray several months AFTER they have been sold as a boxset.

And once again you are building a strawman argument. I don't care how people choose to enjoy the movies. If they want to buy them separately they can. But the annoucement came out two months after the boxset came out and I don't think there are many left who haven't already bought the boxset. I think it will sell very few copies, except for people who might have one of the movies damaged in their boxset.

So I repeat my first point. WB can do what they like. But why bother?

[dcowboy7]

The thing i dont like about the 3 seperate releases is now someone who gets all 3 it will count as 3 blurays in their collection total # here....while if u have just the trilogy it still only counts as 1 bluray.

Not fair.

[rockyoumonkeys]

Originally Posted by radagast

So I repeat my first point. WB can do what they like. But why bother?

Last point first: why bother? Because they can. That's pretty much the end of the argument.

If nobody buys them, you can have the last laugh. But there's a problem with your argument: you've claimed that pretty much everyone who's going to buy the movies has already done so. This isn't remotely true, and for one big reason: a great many people are holding out for the Extended versions.

Problem is, it's becoming clearer and clearer that the Extended versions are a couple years off. Now all those people who were going to wait have to decide whether they really want to wait those two years, or whether they should just go ahead, bite the bullet on the theatrical cuts, and then double dip in two years' time. This was the camp I was in. I'd intended to wait. The only appeal the theatrical cuts have for me is the fact that the LOTR RiffTrax go along with them, not the extended cuts.

But when it became clear that the Extended cuts were a long ways off, I reevaluated, and decided to go ahead and get both. I even went earlier this week and picked it up. Of course, the piss-poor packaging meant that two of the movies were damaged, so I returned it for my money back and decided not to try my luck again just now. This was fortuitous, because the very next day the separate releases were announced. Now I'm gonna hold off until they're out. I'd much rather get the separate releases, not just because they'll look better on the shelf, but because they're way less likely to be damaged by terrible packaging.

Of course no one had to pay one price for all three movies in the theatre. THEY WEREN'T OUT AT THE SAME TIME.

Yes, but you're insisting that because the three movies are one story, they must be presented as one. So why then didn't Peter Jackson wait until they were ALL done and then release them all simultaneously? It's one story, after all!

The answer, of course, is that's a stupid idea. Most people aren't going to sit for ten hours to watch "one movie".

Just as there are very few people who would have gone to the LoTR marathon to see one movie, there are very few who will want to buy them separately on Blu-ray several months AFTER they have been sold as a boxset.

Let's talk about OPTIONS.

Forget about the individual theatrical releases for a moment. Pretend that the only way to see the movies was by buying a ticket to the marathon. Because that's essentially what you're saying for the BD. It's all or nothing. You have to buy all of them, or none of them. You may not understand why someone might want one movie but not another, but you're just one person, and you're one of the most over-the-top LOTR fans I've ever seen. So you aren't an average fan. You can't speak for average fans. And you certainly don't think like an average fan.


Now let me finish this up by asking a question: are you equally as put out that LOTR is and has been available as three separate books? That you can even buy each book individually? How do you think those books sell? Pretty well, I'd wager. So how is it different for the movies?

Answer: it's not.