Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Theatrical Versions) - April 6, 2010

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Riff Magnum

LOL!! It's not in the books. Sauron is not strong enough to assume a "physical form" remember? That's why he needs the ring back.

then i would assume thats why pj thought it was inappropriate

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

ps someone brought up the idea of doing an extended-extended edition: there might not be more footage on the cutting room floor, but it's not impossible for them to repurpose new footage or simply film new footage altogether, especially if they're going to work to imply a connected continuity between the LotR films and the Hobbit.

there is footage that has yet to be used
pj said he wants to use it in a future ultimate edition
presumably the EE blus imo

but i dont think they would be placed into the actual film
just be available for viewing as deleted scenes probably

[Esox50]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

But compare this with pricing on other trilogy boxsets. X-men is coming out next week and it is easily obtainable at 55 bucks and many are getting an extra 10 knocked off via a promotion deal.

Normally, I'd agree that 70 isn't that bad for 3 films, but considering they're PLANNING to rerelease them later, I'd say it's ridiculous. Basically, they're not doing the customer any favors here; they're charging more for this than is necessary, then turning around and telling us that they're intentionally holding back to make us pay even more later. And what's worse is that I'm expecting even heavier per-title prices when the extended editions do come.

That is exactly what I meant in my post that he didn't "get".

BOTTOM LINE: These are expected to be barebones theatrical releases, with a planned double dip to boot. Combine that with the price, and it's a no-brainer "pass" for me. I applaud them for making the films available, and at least giving us a choice. My choice is "sorry, I'll wait for the 'real' versions Peter Jackson is working on."

[Esox50]

Originally Posted by Riff Magnum

I also have a hard time believing any LOTR freak, regardless of which version you prefer, will be able to hold off on buying these, no matter what you say on an internet forum. One day, you'll see it at Best Buy and you'll think, "what the hell am i waiting for? Middle-earth, here i come!"

LOL. You caught me. I''ll be there opening day.

Have you forgotten you're talking to a Cubs fan? I'm prepared to wait 100+ years for the real versions.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Esox50

LOL. You caught me. I''ll be there opening day.

Have you forgotten you're talking to a Cubs fan? I'm prepared to wait 100+ years for the real versions.

[rdm5777]

Pass for me too. I can be patient.

[RSuarez]

Well I am curious about the extras (if any)

If they include the same extras from the DVD's I will upgrade, I can sell the old DVDs and then use the money to buy the theatrical editions on BD...

Theatrical or Extended, I have waited for Lotr on Bluray for a long time...

[Diesel]

i couldnt care less about the extras
i've watched them
dont need to watch them again
this release is definitly going to be for me
but hopefully the price drops a little bit more by release time (say 59)

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Diesel

i couldnt care less about the extras
i've watched them
dont need to watch them again
this release is definitly going to be for me
but hopefully the price drops a little bit more by release time (say 59)

Look I love these movies but even $70 is a lot so hoping they drop to about X-Men price range and also have a sale because these are relatively old.

[MCT]

Originally Posted by Riff Magnum

LOL!! It's not in the books. Sauron is not strong enough to assume a "physical form" remember? That's why he needs the ring back.

if you have the extendeds at home, if you watch one of the bonus discs there's actually some rough footage of Sauron appearing to Aragorn in spiritual form, trying to cast a spell on him, then eventually turns into the real Sauron. It's pretty cool to see, but I totally understand why PJ did away with it.

[vanishingpoint]

Originally Posted by Diesel

aragorn and sauron were supposed to fight at the black gate
but PJ thought the scene was 'inappropriate' or something, so he put the troll in that you see attacking them at the black gate in RotK

The troll you mentioned is referred to in the book as the Mouth of Sauron, as he'd forgotten his own name. And in the book he was a man, not a troll.

Originally Posted by Riff Magnum

LOL!! It's not in the books. Sauron is not strong enough to assume a "physical form" remember? That's why he needs the ring back.

Exactly. No one even so much as caught a glimpse of Sauron, except in the Palantir(that nifty magic orb Saruman had).

[sam89]

Originally Posted by vanishingpoint

The troll you mentioned is referred to in the book as the Mouth of Sauron, as he'd forgotten his own name. And in the book he was a man, not a troll.

No, the Mouth of Sauron is seen in the Extended Edition. The troll that Aragorn fights is just a troll.

[RSuarez]

Originally Posted by vanishingpoint

The troll you mentioned is referred to in the book as the Mouth of Sauron, as he'd forgotten his own name. And in the book he was a man, not a troll.



Exactly. No one even so much as caught a glimpse of Sauron, except in the Palantir(that nifty magic orb Saruman had).

Well the mouth of Sauron is a different character...


They are talking about the troll Peter Jackson added digitally to hide the actor dressed as Sauron in that final battle

[The Guilty Party]

I own the extended editions on DVD and am probably just going to get the theatrical versions on BD. I like LOTR but it isn't to me what it is to some others hence, I'm taking a step back from 4+hour versions back down to the 3 hour version.

Either way, it's exciting that we're getting closer to having LOTR in high-def.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by RSuarez

Well the mouth of Sauron is a different character...


They are talking about the troll Peter Jackson added digitally to hide the actor dressed as Sauron in that final battle

bingo
that troll

[Irrob]

pre-ordered. You only live once.

[JamesKurtovich]

Originally Posted by Diesel

aragorn and sauron were supposed to fight at the black gate
but PJ thought the scene was 'inappropriate' or something, so he put the troll in that you see attacking them at the black gate in RotK

That would be inappropriate to have Sauron in two places at once. In the Tower of Bara'dur and at the Black Gates.

[JAC6]

Originally Posted by Irrob

pre-ordered. You only live once.

+1. Easy decision too.

[drichter33]

I think "intentionally holding back to make us pay twice" is a little harsh.

I think putting together a quality BRD for the EE is not something you just printout of the computer. It takes some time and care, and PJ wants to be involved. With Lovely Bones and Hobbit looming, I am sure he is busy and will get to it the first reasonable chunk of time he has to make sure we get the best stuff.

So in a way, they are actually accomodating those of us (me included) that are impatient about finally getting these on BRD in one way or another by at least releasing the theatrical versions.

[panamablu]

Sweet news.

This is one of the few times I know I would double dip in a couple of years, and gladly accept it. It's just too tempting to let it pass.
Its almost guarantied that close to release date, there will be so many offers to grab peoples money that I wouldnt be surprised if amazon drops the price below 50's.
By the way, cool artbox, and by the size it looks like 3 regular cases.