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View Poll Results: Should i make this a 4K DI only thread or continue the way it is ?
Only 4K DI 10 28.57%
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Old 06-29-2013, 07:24 PM   #641
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To the Wonder (2012) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1595656/technical
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Old 06-29-2013, 11:12 PM   #642
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Don't worry Penton...gotcha!
I hope you also allow To the Wonder (2012) onto the List because with regards to complete accuracy (and despite what imdb lists) a small amount of the footage in the final edit of Spring Breakers was actually acquired with VHS cameras and plastic toy cameras from Japan (namely, the Digital Harinezumi http://www.gizmag.com/digital-harine...ography/16462/ ) but, I believe in those cases the Director intended that video/digital imagery be included to give the scene(s) either a documentary style authenticity or an artificial reality (the Harinezumi) rather than somehow contributing to the overall filmic *look* of the motion picture as a whole.

It just seemed to me inappropriate to nominate Spring Breakers to the ‘List of 4K+ Masters for Digitally Shot Films’ because it wasn’t shot 100% on film.

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Old 07-02-2013, 12:55 AM   #643
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L'armée, you can add Steven Spielberg’s Catch Me If You Can - https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Catch...Blu-ray/27572/

Although I think this movie doesn’t accurately portray the main character’s actual age at the time (because it’s not really a biographical documentary), I find it quite amazing that he was only 16–21 years old when he committed all the crimes.

For those who haven’t viewed the movie yet, I spoiler-ize this link because it describes what endeavors F.A. moved onto following his incarcerations…
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Old 07-03-2013, 05:09 PM   #644
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L'armée, the Fly’s ( https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=11562 ) on its way (from a 4K scan) –

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Old 07-03-2013, 11:41 PM   #645
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L'armée, the Fly’s ( https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=11562 ) on its way (from a 4K scan) –

The Fly 1958 (Trailer) - YouTube
Very cool! Will definitely be picking this one up when it arrives in the U.S.
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:12 AM   #647
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:36 AM   #648
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What resolution was The Dark Knight Rises scanned at?
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What resolution was The Dark Knight Rises scanned at?
As per the American Cinematographer article: 8K for 65mm negative, 6k for 35mm interpositive, for a 4K digital finish.
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Old 07-04-2013, 03:02 AM   #650
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Where's the proof that it will be 4K?
There are actually folks you can trust on this site and Penton is one of those
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Old 07-04-2013, 04:32 PM   #651
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Where's the proof that it will be 4K?
What are you? a salesman for this….http://www.k5600.com/products/alpha4k/index.html

Hey, I’m told that before a sense of valor intervened last evening you referred to this thread and a contributor here as “bologna” in a derogatory fashion. That’s not nice as we’re trying to do a good thing here for the Blu-ray community. Never mind the fact that the Univ. of Bologna is the oldest university in the Western world (or in continuous operation, however they qualify such things) and we’re about education.

Enjoy life and bologna, if that be on your mind -


P.S. Tread carefully in the future.
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Old 07-04-2013, 04:42 PM   #652
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Preface…
Club Penton 8/16/2010 - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ly#post3627967

Context….
A symposium held in Hollywood back in 2010 “ended” (although I prefer the term, concluded) with projection of a sneak/surprise preview of a major restoration …. http://www.videoblocks.com/videos/de...zzing---short/

back when a archival-type fellow and I used to be friends and used to exchange pleasant back-and-forth emails about it.

Or, for the readers out there with long attention spans, a public reporting by a known film historian who has since passed…. http://www.in70mm.com/news/2010/reel/index.htm
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L'armée, you can add Steven Spielberg’s Catch Me If You Can - https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Catch...Blu-ray/27572/
Oh yeah. Forgot about that one.
Sorry for being rude to you before, however it really wasn't that bad. Everything looks worse in type as one can't get the tone in how things are said.
I merely get sick of people spouting bollocks like they were there painting the same scans that i was for weeks/months. It's really not that hard, but I'd deal with people pretending it is, day in, day out and it gets tiresome. And then all this tech jargon comes up after we make it pretty- I gloss over.
Too many bullshitter/know nothing's in this game and they drive the industry in to the ground IMO.
That is to say, Happy 4th 'Murica.
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Oh yeah. Forgot about that one. Sorry for being rude to you before, however it really wasn't that bad. Everything looks worse in type as one can't get the tone in how things are said.
No problem, you kind of remind me of someone I knew who used to work for Cinesite London. You’ve got to get out of that mole hole more often and enjoy the California weather .


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...they were there painting...
Did you say ‘painting'? https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ng#post7702517
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Too many bullshitter/know nothing's in this game and they drive the industry in to the ground IMO...
Well the bullsh*tting quality also extends to celebrity video gurus, etc. who exaggerate their true influence over the industry as a whole (simply to promote themselves) as well as executives who tell half truths. So to be fair, I don’t think that the tossing of manure is exclusive to hobbyists.
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Well the bullsh*tting quality also extends to celebrity video gurus, etc. who exaggerate their true influence over the industry as a whole (simply to promote themselves) as well as executives who tell half truths. So to be fair, I don’t think that the tossing of manure is exclusive to hobbyists.
I pay no heed to the hobbyists (unless they think our titles were awesome ).
I was talking about industry types. Especially the "suits".
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please add Robert Redfords Brubaker to the list
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I pay no heed to the hobbyists (unless they think our titles were awesome )...
My advice to that would be even if they don’t notice it, just never admit to (if you have) using a *texture control* tool, or digital sharpening on any material….even Separations. And the word ‘regraining’ is viewed by many here with about as much enthusiasm as an enormous lip or breast augmentation gone horribly wrong.
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Got a link to that?
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My advice to that would be even if they don’t notice it, just never admit to (if you have) using a *texture control* tool, or digital sharpening on any material….even Separations. And the word ‘regraining’ is viewed by many here with about as much enthusiasm as an enormous lip or breast augmentation gone horribly wrong.
I left any degraining or sharpening to Lou. Better tools for that on the Baselight.
However, with other colourists I have taken care of some grain management etc. if they use a Lustre. Just a handful of shots, and I have a better eye than these arm-chair critics anyhow so it's never been a problem with me.
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I left any degraining or sharpening to Lou. Better tools for that on the Baselight.
However, with other colourists I have taken care of some grain management etc. if they use a Lustre. Just a handful of shots, and I have a better eye than these arm-chair critics anyhow so it's never been a problem with me.
Version 4.3 sped up the process/performance of temporal degrain. If memory serves, I believe Lou (which also seems to be standard practice with a lot of colorists) favors first grading the image then applying t.d. (if needed) further on downstream, e.g. color correct, pull out the highlights, comp in the features, then degrain…and add a tad bit of sharpening to bring back what the temporal filter softened up in the image in the first place.

It’s kind of funny because on the other hand, it seems those who have written software for texture control actually claim and recommend (based on the parameters to which they’ve written the software to work in the first place…and that even includes the degrainer for Baselight) that you should degrain first and then color grade, etc. i.e. degrain the raw images before you do anything else.

I guess it goes to show that ‘practice’ doesn’t always follow ‘theory’.
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