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Old 01-28-2020, 11:12 PM   #1621
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Wonder if Best Buy and other places inform buyers that 8k tvs also use double the power?
With electric Tesla solar panels 8K TVs are no problemo.
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3D & 8K: A Marriage Made In Las Vegas

But I set aside time this year for a visit to the Venetian to check out two companies – Dimenco, based in The Netherlands, and Looking Glass, out of Brooklyn, NY. Both companies touted next-generation autostereo displays built on 32-inch and 31.5-inch 8K LCD monitors, and both used different approaches to create 3D images.

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Old 01-29-2020, 09:05 PM   #1623
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We have confirmed Canon EOS RS specifications including 8K, IBIS, 4K120 and 45MP

See also Canon is rumored to launch the first Full Frame 8K camera on February 13…and now Sony…where is the A7sIV?

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Named the Canon EOS R5
45mp full-frame CMOS sensor
IBIS
5 stops with IBIS alone
7-8 stops of correction when used with in-lens stabilization
12fps mechanical, 20fps electronic
Scroll wheel added to the back
No touch bar
Liveview/Movie toggle like previous EOS DSLRs
Larger capacity battery, but looks like the LP-E6
8K @ 30fps
4K @ 120fps
4K @ 60fps
Built-in 5GHz WiFi
New battery, but the same shape and compatibility as the EOS 5D Mark IV
Announcement ahead of CP+ next month
Launching in July 2020 (I’m assuming this means ship date)
Announcement on or around February 13, 2020
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Old 01-29-2020, 09:10 PM   #1624
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Some more concerning sharp 8k

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Old 01-29-2020, 11:48 PM   #1625
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3D & 8K: A Marriage Made In Las Vegas

But I set aside time this year for a visit to the Venetian to check out two companies – Dimenco, based in The Netherlands, and Looking Glass, out of Brooklyn, NY. Both companies touted next-generation autostereo displays built on 32-inch and 31.5-inch 8K LCD monitors, and both used different approaches to create 3D images.

https://displaydaily.com/article/dis...e-in-las-vegas
Hey, 8K/3D, that's for me.
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Old 01-31-2020, 06:38 PM   #1626
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Live From Super Bowl LIV: Canon 8K Efforts Expand - SportsVideo.org 1/31/20

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Canon Broadcast has a team of seven people on hand for the Super Bowl. The team not only is making sure nearly 55 HD and UHD lenses are operating at a top level but also has a role in the use of three Canon 8K lenses that are coupled with Sony UDC-8300 cameras to give the Fox Sports production team an even greater ability to extract up-close images.

“We were blessed to have Mike Davies from Fox and Sony request our lenses,” says Rich Eilers, national accounts sales director, Canon USA. “The lenses were going to have their formal introduction at NAB, but we decided to bring them here.”

Canon also has its own 8K camera onsite for the game. Coupled with a 150-degree Canon lens, the camera is located in the high-slash position and captures a panoramic view of the field.

Canon’s 8K camera with 150-degree lens is positioned for a panoramic shot.
“The package is unique in that the Canon lens and Canon camera each know what the other is doing,” says Eilers. “Then we have a processor that takes the 8K image, splits it into four quadrants, and flattens it out to remove any distortion from the wide angle. It takes four individual servers to create the image, and then it is pumped over to the main production truck.”

The complement includes two Canon SP51x15.5 box lenses and one 7×10.7 handheld lens being used to offer increased zoom functionality that can exceed that possible on the 4K cameras.

“Slo-mo requirements are growing as broadcasters want it from every possible angle, and lenses with super-high resolution give the best odds from a light-gathering standpoint,” says Eilers. “Systems like our 122X lens and 111X lens and even the rest of the UHD lenses here are also able to communicate the gain to the Sony cameras so that the full telephoto lens can be used without compromise.”
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Old 02-03-2020, 12:49 PM   #1627
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Canon to add 8K camera to their line.
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Old 02-03-2020, 06:23 PM   #1628
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Competition Robert.

Video and Audio Center’s ‘Big Game’ Event Scores 8K Sales - Dealerscope - 2/3/20




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The Southern California-based experiential CE retailer Video and Audio Center drew an overflow crowd of 400 of its Bel Air/Beverly Hills-area football-fan clients to an invitation-only “Big Game” watching event Sunday, Feb. 2, at the Bel Air Crest Community Center to view the proceedings between the San Francisco 49ers and the Kansas City Chiefs. Attendees were treated to the view of the game on eight of Samsung’s 8K QLED TVs and could hear the crowds roar on Bowers + Wilkins 800 and 700 Series loudspeakers, and enjoy their music reproduction capabilities during the halftime show.

This was not a selling event,” said Tom Campbell, corporate director and chief technologist, “but people were blown away. We had a regular cable feed, but the Samsung TVs upscaled the signal for 8K display, and everyone remarked about how crystal clear the images were.” Campbell also noted that event-goers were remarking about how well the Samsung 8K sets also performed, despite bright sunshine conditions, for those seated outdoors.

“The event was successful beyond our expectations,” said Joseph Akhtarzad, co-owner of Video and Audio Center, “as evidenced by the fact that every Samsung 8K set there was purchased on site. Once consumers see and experience the picture quality of 8K upconversion, and they understand the improvements the technology makes in viewing currently available broadcasts, it becomes a ‘must’ buy.”
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Old 02-03-2020, 06:38 PM   #1629
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East coast vs West coast, FIGHT!!
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Old 02-04-2020, 07:50 PM   #1630
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We prominently display, demonstrate and sell all three 8K TVs in our showroom. LG's 88' Z9 OLED, Sony's 85" Z9G and Samsungs 82" Q900R so our guests can see how these three great 8K TV perform butt next to each other.

Not sure I shared this before but here's a few details on our 2020 TV Shootout:

Day one, June 10th will be all of the 4K premium TVs and at the conclusion we’ll tally up the panel's votes and crown the “King of 4K TV for 2020.” Day two, June 11th we’ll evaluate all of the premium 8K TVs and at the conclusion we’ll announce the “King of 8K TV for 2020” and move the 4K winner butt next to the 8K best TV and then compare them against each other to see and discuss the differences in image performance amongst all of the picture attributes.

I am planning on a dual curtain so we can have a black curtain behind the TVs and another black curtain in the front of the TVs. I’ll have the logos covered with black painters tape and we’ll close the front curtain before we change sources, or when we go to the user menus.
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Old 02-04-2020, 10:39 PM   #1631
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We prominently display, demonstrate and sell all three 8K TVs in our showroom. LG's 88' Z9 OLED, Sony's 85" Z9G and Samsungs 82" Q900R so our guests can see how these three great 8K TV perform butt next to each other.
FYI the chain is making use of posting their specials using YouTube. See the shootouts but consider this a idea for the suggestion box. Are they as well set up for 8k, you probably got the edge.

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Your future phone will be able to record 8K video that looks like this - TechRadar


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We’re just getting to smartphone cameras that can shoot in 4K - so, naturally, Qualcomm has released a video showing 8K video shot on a phone.

We don’t know which phone it was, of course, except that it was packing the chipmaker’s new Snapdragon 865 5G (yes, with the 5G appended) accompanied by a Sony IMX586 image sensor and Qualcomm Spectra 480 image signal processor.

Qualcomm noted the footage was shot in November 2019 in parts of Arizona, including the iconic Grand Canyon, the river-split Horseshoe Bend, and the Petroglyphs.
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MicroLEDs are the ultimate display solution - RedShark 2/3/20



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In Part 1 of the Next Generation TV Technologies in Full View at CES 2020 article, we profiled the status of miniLED TVs and dual-cell TVs as revealed at CES 2020. In Part 2, we focus on microLED displays.

microLED
First, the term “microLED” means different things to different people. Among display technologists, the definition of a microLED is tied to the size or area of the emitter. Some think the emitter diagonal or side should be defined as less than 100 microns. Others put the dividing line at 50 microns and for AR/VR applications microLEDs need to be less than 10-15 microns.

Secondly, the LED size must also be clearly differentiated from the pixel pitch – i.e. the spacing between full-colour pixels which are made up of red, green and blue microLEDs. An LED display with a pixel pitch of 1mm can be made with either miniLEDs or microLEDs.

The third point is that microLED displays are not backlit – they are direct emissive displays with no LCD panel.

The fourth key starting point is to realise that marketing organisations have already pre-empted the term microLED. A microLED display may, in fact, use miniLEDs (typically having emitters in 200-300 micron range) or microLEDs (size depending upon what definition you like). In other words, you have to be careful to ask the right questions to really understand what has been developed.

Fifth, manufacturing for microLEDs is quite different from miniLED manufacturing. miniLEDs can use most of the same techniques that have been employed with larger-sized LEDs to make LED video walls for years. It is the size of the emitter and the package the emitters are packaged in that gets smaller, adding a need for more precision in the manufacturing process. True microLEDs require a different manufacturing process as they must often be separated from their sapphire substrate and transferred in vast qualities at rapid rates with high accuracy. This has spawned an entire industry that is developing dozens of different ways to do this. As a result, it is still early days for microLEDs as there is no clear consensus on the best manufacturing methods to achieve the desired quality displays at the needed price points.

Finally, microLED manufacturing for AR/VR applications will be different than applications with larger-sized displays. When microLEDs are fabricated, they have a tight pixel pitch on the 4” to 8” wafer. With larger, direct view displays, the pixel pitch is much bigger (0.6mm on up). As a result, a “mass transfer” manufacturing technique must be developed to spread out the wafer-scale pitch to the display-scale pitch. Typically, smaller modules 6”x6” to 12”x12” are first constructed with the mass-transferred microLEDs. These are then assembled into cabinets. Displays are built by assembling a number of cabinets in a variety of sizes and shapes.

Pixel pitch
With AR/VR, the pixel pitch of the display (5-15 microns) will be similar to the size of the emitter (1-15 microns) so no mass transfer step is needed.

Large-format microLED displays can be very bright, have a wide dynamic range and a very wide colour gamut along with a very long lifetime. In many ways, they are the ultimate display solution. Current challenges include cost and heat.

Okay, with that background out of the way, we are ready to better understand what is happening at CES. Samsung has been a leader in microLEDs, having first introduced The Wall at CES 2018. While this is available to well-heeled homeowners, it will mostly be a commercial product until prices come down. At CES 2020, Samsung doubled down on microLEDs, announcing it would expand the standard sizes it will offer to include 75”, 88”, 93”, 110”, 146” in 4K resolution and 150 and 292” in 8K resolution. These will apparently be offered with a number of TV functions and processing similar to what can be had in their high-end QLED TVs.



Sony’s Crystal LED display is, in fact, a microLED solution as well. This was shown at CES but there were no new announcements regarding plans for 2020.

Konka had two large impressive microLED solutions at CES as well. One was a 236” 8K display with a 0.68 pixel pitch and 2000 nits luminance. A second was a 118” 4K display with the same pixel pitch and luminance. Konka said these will be commercialised in China in 2020 and will likely include TV-like functionality and a 5G interface. The even offered some pricing: $1.25M for the 8K and $240K for the 4K.



LG Electronics showed a 145” 4K microLED prototype that used LEDs smaller than 50 microns. TCL showed a 132” 4K microLED prototype with 1500 nits luminance. And Planar/Leyard, a big player in commercial LED video walls, says they will set up a new TV division in China for microLED displays. They showed a 216” 8K display with a 0.6mm pitch and a 135” 4K display with a 0.7mm pitch.

microLEDs displays are coming but will mostly be a professional/commercial product for a few years. But if manufacturing issues are solved, they could start to become consumer products. This will be good news for consumers.

As this article points out, there is much innovation underway in the display ecosystem that will continue to drive the market forward.
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Did the phone only have enough storage to film those 2 minutes?

I'm not interested in 8K as the majority of UHD TVs are far too small as it is. I have to sit right up in front of the screen to really see the difference (particularly as I'm short-sighted). The added resolution is amazing, but wasted on such small displays.

I'm still holding out for UHD-Rs to enter the market before I can even begin to consider 8K.
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Did the phone only have enough storage to film those 2 minutes?

I'm not interested in 8K as the majority of UHD TVs are far too small as it is. I have to sit right up in front of the screen to really see the difference (particularly as I'm short-sighted). The added resolution is amazing, but wasted in most situations.

I'm still holding out for UHD-Rs to enter the market before I can even begin to consider 8K.
Qualcomm article mentions more of the specifics

8K video is loaded with 33-megapixels per frame
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This stunning video is just a taste of what smartphones in 2020 will be capable of with the Snapdragon 865, thanks in large part to its new Qualcomm Spectra 480 Image Signal Processor. The new Qualcomm Spectra 480 ISP captures professional-quality photos and videos — and it’s faster than ever, processing 2 gigapixels per second. This gigapixel speed delivers new camera features including 8K video capture, Dolby Vision video capture, 960fps slow-motion video capture with no recording limit, 200-megapixel photo capture, simultaneous 4K HDR video with 64 MP photo capture, and much more
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8K TODAY: HOW FLEXIBLE 8K SOLUTIONS ARE EMPOWERING ULTRA HD WORKFLOWS - ProductionHub 2/5/20



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ATEM Constellation 8K is an Ultra HD live production switcher with so many features, users can combine them all to make an incredibly powerful 8K switcher. The massive 4 M/E switcher features 40 12G-SDI inputs, 24 12G-SDI aux outputs, 4 DVEs, 16 ATEM Advanced Chroma Keyers, 4 media players, 4 independent Ultra HD multi viewers, 2 SuperSource processors and even standards conversion on all inputs. Users also get built-in talkback and a professional 156 channel Fairlight audio mixer with EQ and dynamics.

Several recent projects took advantage of this flexibility, including Apex Broadcast to broadcast the 2019 Blancpain GT World Challenge America professional auto racing series; by Upstage Video as part of an Ultra HD 12G-SDI and fiber live production workflow at WE Fest, the largest country music festival in the United States and the longest running in the world; by production company Bad Weather for the South African music festival Rocking the Daisies; and by Japan’s Cyber Media TV for eSports and gaming streaming.
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Just built 2 more 2020 8K TV pages. Sony's Z8H and LG's NANO99 8K LCD/LED TVs.
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Great visit from video experts Florian Friedrich FF Pictures GmbH and Claudio Ciacci, Head of TV Testing at Consumer Reports at @valueelectronics!



Together we solved the all of the World problems that relate to the advancement of video science. We put all of the politics on the side and discussed the display and processing technologies and all of the attributes and elements of HDR
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More info see Here’s how much storage a minute of Galaxy S20’s 8K videos will use - SamMobile

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According to Samsung, one minute of 8K video on a Galaxy 20 will have a file size of 600 MB. On a Galaxy S10+, a minute of 4K video takes around 340 to 350 MB of space, and since 8K videos have four times as many pixels as a 4K video, it’s impressive that an 8K video will only use 600 MB per minute. But that’s still quite a lot, and a lot of processing power would be required for 8K video recording, which is why the Galaxy S20 will only record a maximum of 5 minutes per video.
Notice they don't mention any heat dissipation issues with using a thin phone. Its got to cook.
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The Canvas - curved MicroLED from Sharp





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