The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[DukeTogo84]

Originally Posted by WinterBox

Any reason to buy this New Remastered Extended set for $45

When you can buy the 4K version. Which includes both Theatrical/Extended for $53?

Pretty much for those that don't have 4K capabilities with their setup.

[nusilver]

Originally Posted by WinterBox

Any reason to buy this New Remastered Extended set for $45

When you can buy the 4K version. Which includes both Theatrical/Extended for $53?

I have a lot of problems with the 4K version, but some of that is purely down to the implementation of HDR. I do virtually all of my movie watching on my Epson 5050UB, which is a fantastic projector and really quite capable where HDR is concerned... but there's no way I'm getting a decent image out of these LOTR 4Ks where the jewel or Gandalf's staff in Moria in FOTR or his reveal in TTT aren't blown the hell out. It's just not possible. So, for me, if I'm going to watch the remastered versions, I'm most likely going with the Blu-rays. It's a very comparable experience (complete with that incredible Atmos track), without any of the drawbacks inherent in displays that can't adequately tone map.

[mikematt101]

Apologies for nagging but does anyone have an answer to this? If the UK EEs have player generated I'll get the US versions.

Originally Posted by mikematt101

Can anyone confirm whether the UK LOTR EEs have burned in or played generated subtitles?

[rexcrk]

Originally Posted by 50strat54

I like both...I'm insane

I’m more Team Extended, but it’s always fun to pop in the theatrical cuts now and then too. There’s definitely a certain nostalgic charm to them (especially Fellowship of the Ring).

I’m very grateful that both versions are (and have always been) widely available on the market.

[mikematt101]

Hi. I've asked this questions on a couple of other forums but haven't got an answer so hoping someone here can help. Can anyone confirm whether the UK EE Blu Rays have burned in or player generated subs? If only the US versions has burned in I'll be getting that one.

[Hern]

I held off upgrading to blu-ray when I first heard about the green tinge to one of the prints. But have now got the 4K.

[jstxanothrxstory]

Originally Posted by mikematt101

Hi. I've asked this questions on a couple of other forums but haven't got an answer so hoping someone here can help. Can anyone confirm whether the UK EE Blu Rays have burned in or player generated subs? If only the US versions has burned in I'll be getting that one.

It's a WB release, so the UK discs would be identical to the US discs.

[mikematt101]

Originally Posted by jstxanothrxstory

It's a WB release, so the UK discs would be identical to the US discs.

Great, thank you.

[Mr Gitz]

Originally Posted by Dr. Manhattan

Many people. The theatrical cuts are better paced and the narrative is tighter and more coherent. The extended cuts are purely for hardcore fans and people who want more character and more from the story and world-building. Not everyone is like that, which is the case for most movie-goers.

I disagree. Kind of. Are the theatrical cuts of TT & ROTK better paced? Sure. 100%. But I think Fellowships extended cut is far better paced in the extended version than theatrical. Shorter doesn’t necessarily mean better pacing. I also think the extended cuts make a far more coherent film in all 3 cases.

Fellowship Extended is damn near perfect. TT and ROTK has stuff that you don’t need and I’d argue ROTK never had good pacing to begin with, especially in the films latter portion.

But the extended cuts clear up narrative loose ends(Saruman’s fate, fate of mr elephant man Orc), add dimensions to characters(boromir especially) and just give us more of this world. And if you are rewatching these movies why wouldn’t you want that?

I find the theatrical cut of fellowship choppy as hell in some sequences, especially the opening Hobbiton beats. The extended cut really dials that in with Bilbo’s opening narration which I find *essential* to establishing Hobbits. The comparison to the theatrical opening is just…it’s not even close. Obvious ADR & awkward cuts, artificially sped up footage. We get that beautiful pull out from the middle earth maps which helps orient the audiences immediately. It’s much more inviting and charming. The extended opening is like “Ok, buckle in, it’s story time”.

I just don’t get why anyone who likes these movies and characters and world, wouldn’t want to experience more of it. I guess if you are just watching these movies for the actions scenes, ok. I can maybe wrap my head around that. But if you love these characters and this world? It’s a no brainer.

[gregmasciola]

For me, Fellowship requires Bilbo's "concerning hobbits" scene, Two Towers needs the extra Boromir & Faramir scenes and Return Of The King needs the Saruman scene. There are other extended scenes I like but these are the ones that I think are needed

[Stanis]

Without extended, doesnt Galadreal's Light just appear from nowhere to ward off Shilob? Terrible exclusion if I remember correctly, along with the other gifts

[DukeTogo84]

Originally Posted by Stanis

Without extended, doesnt Galadreal's Light just appear from nowhere to ward off Shilob? Terrible exclusion if I remember correctly, along with the other gifts

Gadaldreal's Light is still gifted in the theatrical.

[Mr Gitz]

Originally Posted by Stanis

Without extended, doesnt Galadreal's Light just appear from nowhere to ward off Shilob? Terrible exclusion if I remember correctly, along with the other gifts

No but we don’t get the other gifts which explain how the guard doesn’t see Sam/Frodo at the front of the black gate in TT. Nor does Legolas mention Lembas bread in the theatrical cut. Or a great character moment with Gimli asking for the a strand of Galadriel’s hair and getting 3. One could argue these details aren’t essential to the plot, and they might be right. But to those people I say “Since when is plot the most important thing?”. Give me character, detail, world building and verisimilitude and I’ll follow your plot anywhere.

But to me Boromir is the biggest beneficiary of the extended cuts. In Fellowship, the scene where he picks up the shards of Narsil…in the theatrical cut it makes him look like an aloof moron. In the extended cut, we realize he KNOWS Aargorn is sitting there and they have a small friendly chat before he picks it up. It’s a wonderful character moment & it makes you understand why, in showbiz parlance, they call deleting scenes “killing your babies”, because there’s no way in hell I could’ve cut Bilbo’s open narration or Boromir’s added bits.

Not to mention the wonderful scene between Faramir and Boromir in TT EE Boromir becomes a much more complex and tragic figure in the EE’s. A character who just wants to do right by his people but also has all this pressure & responsibility. I’d even dare say they improved Boromir from the book version.

[Spearmint701]

Originally Posted by WinterBox

Any reason to buy this New Remastered Extended set for $45

When you can buy the 4K version. Which includes both Theatrical/Extended for $53?

For the extras including the appendices, if you don't already have them.

[Apinamakina]

I personally am not a fan of these latest remasters for these movies, and that's mainly for the changes they made to colour grading.

For example:


That blue tint in the prologue gave it a more mysterious/ancient feel, like an event that happened a long time ago. In the new remasters it looks like a battle scene from a video game.

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...156511&i=1&l=0

The warm orange tone in Rinvendell, kinda respresenting how it's autumn for the elves, since their time in Middle-Earth is coming to an end, and they are leaving to the Undying Lands.

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...156517&i=7&l=0
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or Aragorn's funeral from Two Towers, worst of them all.
Original colour grade gave it a right somber and melancholy feel.
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...=48969&i=8&l=0

Of course the new remasters have better details but these colours were added for a reason when these movies originally were released, and they gave these scenes the right tones and feelings for a reason. Which is more important, the details you can see in Gandalf's beard, or the overall tone and vibe the scene gives the viewer?

It should be illegal to constantly change and fiddle with movies, so there are million different versions. Now I can forgive the changes to the extended editions, but at least keep the damn theatrical versions as close to the original as possible. I am getting Star Wars-vibes Lucas kept making to the Originals, although clearly not as bad. And to think Peter Jackson wanted to make these more superior movies match to the inferior ones (The hobbits)

And removing the film grain has not helped these remasters in my opinion. Now some CGI look really dated and fake.

Like this Mumakil here:
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...56566&i=10&l=0

[thereisnolifewithout]

There is NOTHING wrong with them releasing it on 4k, but replacing the original versions of the movies, is NOT OKAY! Hopefully people keep buying the original blu rays

i wanted to post an image here but apparantely it needs to be "approved" but just remember it was an angry gif

[thereisnolifewithout]

I will not be spending a dime on this, and I hope people who buy this movie buy the original blu rays and not the revisionism of a perfectly good edition (despite the green tint, but they had YEARS to fix that, and they never did)

[Mamaluigi24]

Originally Posted by Mr Gitz

One could argue these details aren’t essential to the plot, and they might be right. But to those people I say “Since when is plot the most important thing?”. Give me character, detail, world building and verisimilitude and I’ll follow your plot anywhere.

Too much detail and world building can affect the pacing and slow the story down though. As great as it is, some of us just want to enjoy a good movie without getting bored with too much lore, especially if said movie already has a running time of 3 hours.

[thereisnolifewithout]

Originally Posted by Mamaluigi24

Too much detail and world building can affect the pacing and slow the story down though. As great as it is, some of us just want to enjoy a good movie without getting bored with too much lore, especially if said movie already has a running time of 3 hours.

i kind of agree tbh, but i see positives of both versions tbh

[IanTheCool]

Originally Posted by Mamaluigi24

Too much detail and world building can affect the pacing and slow the story down though. As great as it is, some of us just want to enjoy a good movie without getting bored with too much lore, especially if said movie already has a running time of 3 hours.

Yeah you are exactly right. Its not plot as much as pacing.