The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[racerx1965]

Originally Posted by oaguirre

Apparently the U.K. version doesn´t have the green tint...

https://forum.blu-ray.com/united-kin...ml#post4879116

So would it make sense at this time to order the UK version instead of the US release -- or is the jury still out?

Thanks!

[Vendetta-akk]

I got my set from WBshop about an hour ago and I am watching Fellowship. It has always been my favorite film of the trilogy so I watch the theatrical blu-ray 3 or 4 times. I am only about a 1/2 an hour into the film, all shire scenes, but I notice a significant upgrade from the theatrical to the extended. This is a much more impressive looking blu-ray.

[shamus]

Originally Posted by vidjunkie

LMAO! So now we have 2 versions? supposed green tinted and supposed non green tinted, this just gets funnier and funnier everyday.

Or more likely there never was a problem to begin with. Yes, some tweaked colors, but not the green mess that internet hysteria had led us to believe... Some will see more or less green depending on their calibration.

Of course this is just my opinion without owning it yet. Two different versions would be unlikely, but sure would make things a lot more interesting!

[shamus]

Originally Posted by racerx1965

So would it make sense at this time to order the UK version instead of the US release -- or is the jury still out?

Thanks!

Absolutely not. wait...

[oaguirre]

Originally Posted by racerx1965

So would it make sense at this time to order the UK version instead of the US release -- or is the jury still out?

Thanks!

No. We must wait for a complete review of this U.K. version to confirm this possibility.

[Penton-Man]

Stinky!

I see you’re still wearing dem goofy tinted goggles. Either take down dem goggles or take the test and see if you can pass it before providing further assessments –

YouTube - ‪Color Blindness test - Real !‬‏

As you’re killin me with dem goggles.

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Taking pics from a digital or cellphone camera are all but useless even assuming you're shooting a properly calibrated display. The pics will look greatly different depending on the camera used and don't accurately reflect the color actually being displayed. The settings of the camera, the light sensors the camera uses, ambient room lighting, type of display you're photographing and amount of light it outputs, etc. all affect how the camera captures the image. I could stand right next to you with a different camera and take a pic at the same time and it will look quite different.

To see what the UK version actually contains you'd need to grab screen caps from the disc itself. I'm sure someone in the UK has a BD drive and'll be able to grab some screens. That will prove definitively if it has a different color timing (which would be awesome, because we wouldn't need to hope for an exchange program.)

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Stinky!

I posted a minute after you posted. It's almost like you summoned me from beyond.

This is black magic and I don't agree with it at all.

[Vendetta-akk]

Originally Posted by shamus

Or more likely there never was a problem to begin with. Yes, some tweaked colors, but not the green mess that internet hysteria had led us to believe... Some will see more or less green depending on their calibration.

Of course this is just my opinion without owning it yet. Two different versions would be unlikely, but sure would make things a lot more interesting!

I can certainly see a boost in the green of the shire, especially Bilbo's house, but I thought it was an improvement over the theatrical. It made it look more like a fantasy world, which it is. But as you stated, I have my tv calibrated to its professional setting which is low in vividness. The only scene I have seen so far that looks anything like the issues that the screen shots warnings suggested, is the slightly off colored snow. But I think it was a flat lie or extreme exaggeration to state that the tint or filter is constant, because I just saw the scene where Frodo and Sam see the Elves leaving, and their clothes looked perfectly white.

[Vendetta-akk]

It seems obviously to me now that they wanted the changes to the color of the Shire to look like that, because the green is duller and more normal when the Hobbits go into the corn field and forest. And WOW!, the scene when we first get a look at the Black Rider is amazing. They have improved the video quality so much.

[Karl Murks]

Originally Posted by racerx1965

So would it make sense at this time to order the UK version instead of the US release -- or is the jury still out?

Thanks!

There are conflicting reports. At the moment it's not really clear how it looks.

[Ispoke]

Originally Posted by Karl Murks

There are conflicting reports. At the moment it's not really clear how it looks.

I don’t think they are conflicting. The consensus of those with the actual BD's seems to be that in motion the picture looks fantastic and certainly not anywhere near as bad as the screen caps/video’s that mainly from unknown sources.

Most, so far, seem to be backing up the conclusions of most pro reviewers.

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by Ispoke

I don’t think they are conflicting. The consensus of those with the actual BD's seems to be that in motion the picture looks fantastic and certainly not anywhere near as bad as the screen caps/video’s that mainly from unknown sources.

Most, so far, seem to be backing up the conclusions of most pro reviewers.

Has there been a single reviewer that hasn't confirmed the color timing change? I know Ken has said the caps are pretty much exactly what he's seen with his copy.

The point is there hasn't been a single screen cap or video clip of a copy that hasn't had the extreme timing change we've seen from all the screens from "unknown sources." If it isn't there on new discs, it shouldn't be tough to grab the corresponding scenes to prove those originally posted are inaccurate.

Sure, how bothersome it is is subjective (as is DNR, EE, etc.) The TE's FotR, despite being riddled by DNR, was lauded by the majority of this forum (who said repeatedly the "caps were inaccurate,") apart from Ken who dealt with it very cearly in his review (unlike many/most other critics.) I've seen nothing to indicate these new caps aren't 100% accurate, just as the ones of the TE were. I've watched the Youtube clips - I notice it extremely easily, and it bothers me. I've been shown nothing to indicate those aren't accurate captures.

[Velmeran]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

Has there been a single reviewer that hasn't confirmed the color timing change? I know Ken has said the caps are pretty much exactly what he's seen with his copy.

The point is there hasn't been a single screen cap or video clip of a copy that hasn't had the extreme timing change we've seen from all the screens from "unknown sources." If it isn't there on new discs, it shouldn't be tough to grab the corresponding scenes to prove those originally posted are inaccurate.

Sure, how bothersome it is is subjective (as is DNR, EE, etc.) The TE's FotR, despite being riddled by DNR, was lauded by the majority of this forum (who said repeatedly the "caps were inaccurate,") apart from Ken who dealt with it very cearly in his review (unlike many/most other critics.) I've seen nothing to indicate these new caps aren't 100% accurate, just as the ones of the TE were. I've watched the Youtube clips - I notice it extremely easily, and it bothers me. I've been shown nothing to indicate those aren't accurate captures.

Color Timing change, or the green tint? Two completely different things.

They've all mentioned the color timing change (as this we have confirmation was changed), but not all of the reviewers have claimed to see the "global" green tint.

[MEB]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

Has there been a single reviewer that hasn't confirmed the color timing change? I know Ken has said the caps are pretty much exactly what he's seen with his copy.

Robert Harris has stated that when he views the discs, snow is white and the title is white. He says he doesn't see any green/teal/cyan tint at all. He called it perfect.

Even Bill Hunt didn't go that far. Bill mentions a color timing change, he just doesn't give any details about it in his review.

Every other review I've read has mentioned the green/teal/cyan tint. But all of them have said the good outweighs the bad.

I'm prepared for the green/teal/cyan tint to NOT be as objectionable when viewed directly from the discs versus screen shots and video clips. I do fully expect to SEE a green/teal/cyan tint, but just how objectionable will it be?

I'm going to view it with my OWN eyes first before I make an investment in the set. Happily, I friend is getting the set no matter what it looks like and I'll be over at his house as soon as his set arrives.

Mark

[Dalsk]

Hmm, am I the only one who has trouble accessing the 270th page of this thread?

[frogmort]

Originally Posted by Ken Brown

...On a separate note, has anyone found a single pixel of pure white in the many, many screenshots posted? I've been scanning with photoshop, and I can't find a single pixel in a single shot that's pure white.

I hope you guys saying that it is perfectly normal are right, but I tend to think Ken knows what he's talking about. Ken has also confirmed that he has the exact same discs as Robert Harris, Bill Hunt, and Ralph Potts.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/4873262-post5023.html

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by Velmeran

Color Timing change, or the green tint? Two completely different things.

They've all mentioned the color timing change (as this we have confirmation was changed), but not all of the reviewers have claimed to see the "global" green tint.

Green tint.

The only one I've read to state explicitly he can't detect the green tint has been RAH. Every other review has either confirmed its presence or didn't go into enough detail on the specifics of the color timing change to indicate what exactly they were seeing (just that the color timing has been "changed," which could either indicate the green tint or selective digital regrading - or both.)

[Velmeran]

Originally Posted by Dalsk

Hmm, am I the only one who has trouble accessing the 270th page of this thread?

Nope, I needed to adjust my posts per page view in order to get to the 270th page.

[Ispoke]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

Has there been a single reviewer that hasn't confirmed the color timing change? I know Ken has said the caps are pretty much exactly what he's seen with his copy.

The point is there hasn't been a single screen cap or video clip of a copy that hasn't had the extreme timing change we've seen from all the screens from "unknown sources." If it isn't there on new discs, it shouldn't be tough to grab the corresponding scenes to prove those originally posted are inaccurate.

Sure, how bothersome it is is subjective (as is DNR, EE, etc.) The TE's FotR, despite being riddled by DNR, was lauded by the majority of this forum (who said repeatedly the "caps were inaccurate,") apart from Ken who dealt with it very cearly in his review (unlike many/most other critics.) I've seen nothing to indicate these new caps aren't 100% accurate, just as the ones of the TE were. I've watched the Youtube clips - I notice it extremely easily, and it bothers me. I've been shown nothing to indicate those aren't accurate captures.

Why do you say they are 100% accurate when they are from an unknown source and posters with the BD's are saying different? BigDad over at AVS posted:

Just got my set in from WBShop. Briefly scanned the trouble areas. I can tell you that the title card of "the Fellowship of the Ring" is NOT that puke green color we've seen in that particular screenshot. On my display it appears just a shade or two darker than white, with no visible green tint.

The snow shots appear to have more blue in them than anything.

Now I know it's subjective, but pratically all the poster with the actual BD's are saying similar things, or don't their views count for anything

[Velmeran]

Originally Posted by Ispoke

Why do you say they are 100% accurate when they are from an unknown source and posters with the BD's are saying different? BigDad over at AVS posted:



Now I know it's subjective, but pratically all the poster with the actual BD's are saying similar things, or don't their views count for anything

I asked a similar question a week back or so, the response I got had something to do with pictures being worth more than words or something close to that.

I find it funny when some posters seem to ignore posters who claim to have the discs and have offer words that differ from their opinion; but the moment someone comes along and claims to have the discs and offers words that back their opinion they quote it like it's the only truth.

A balance needs to be found between all the reviews/comments out there and the screenshots. How much weight an individuals gives to one or the other will/can/should vary based on a plethora of things; but it would be nice to keep some consistency.

At this point, I feel we still have too many conflicting reports to make a solid decision (that said I'm still keeping my pre-order and will chime in with my thoughts once I have the discs in hand )