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BORDERS IS SHIPPING NOW!!!
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You know...I honestly never thought I'd see the day when film enthusiasts would care more about whether sky appeared "pure" white (which, by most accounts from people who have actually viewed the discs, is only really noticeable if you have a frame of reference for what "pure" white truly looks like) than being able to view The Lord of the Rings Extended Edition in a director-approved version on blu-ray which, by ALL accounts, easily trumps the previous blu-ray edition technically. Isn't this what all of us said we wanted when the last discs were released? But now it's not enough. We don't just want the films. We want the films with our approved color timing. The timing we're used to and have come to enjoy for the last ten years. Jackson saying he wanted it this way matters not. You know...I'm FAR from a studio or even director apologist. In fact, I've long been an original trilogy stickler. You know - one of those annoying people who bemoan our not getting the versions of the Star Wars films that we all saw and loved theatrically. The people that some others criticized for not understanding that these were Lucas's movies and that I should be happy with whatever he dished out to me. Well, I still don't buy that. Any more than I buy that a slight cyan cast to an already color-graded and highly stylized film makes it unwatchable. I'm truly saddened to see this kind of a reaction. If people want to vote with their wallets, then more power to them. I'm not saying they're wrong. What I am saying is that I feel a bit sorry for them in a sense. We've all gotten so acclimated to HD that we're hyper-analyzing minutia which, a few short years back, we wouldn't even have had the hardware to see in the first place. And it's gotten to the point of destroying our ability to just enjoy a film. I know we should hold studios to a high standard of quality - particularly when a film series is this beloved - but for heaven's sake, people...it's a slight change in color grading. This is not a "Greedo shoots first" kind of situation. Nothing about the actual story, acting, pacing, etc. has been changed AT ALL. As to the color shift affecting the "mood" of the film away from how it felt with the original color scheme...personally, I call shenanigans. I'm going to buy this set tomorrow. I'm going to enjoy the ever-loving out of it. And I'm going to love The Fellowship of the Ring: Extended Edition just as I always have - slight green tinge to the whitest whites or no. I think we've all become just a bit too darned elitist for our own good if you ask me. Can we just step back for a second and get excited about this release without focusing on the sole flaw in the thing? Especially now that it's been confirmed that it's not even an actual flaw in the first place? On the other hand...those of you still too distracted, too upset, or too blinded by your own perfectionist's eye to actually sit and appreciate the absolute best presentation of one of the best films of all time still have your DVD editions to cherish. I just...sometimes I miss the days when people were just happy to see a film released at all...let alone in widescreen (gasp!) or on a CAV laserdisc (double gasp!!) or...on blu-ray.
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Maybe when everyone gets their copies, we can post the inner ring numbers and see if there are two different versions running around. Just a thought... Last edited by goresnet; 06-28-2011 at 05:05 AM. Reason: inner ring numbers |
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The official announcement makes sense - quell the situation and hope most people shrug it off and buy the set. Admitting any kind of error would be a PR and logistical nightmare.
To those who are disappointed with the color timing - do you absolutely need the EEs on blu-ray right now? If not, hold onto your dvds and wait a couple years for the eventual re-released tied into either the theatrical premiere of The Hobbit or the introduction of that two-part film on blu-ray. I feel it's very possible that the color timing will be "corrected" or even compromised to an area between the theatrical BD and the EE BD, with scene-by-scene adjustments. Then everyone will be happy! Last edited by georgec; 06-28-2011 at 05:07 AM. |
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This is the "corrected" version. Approved by PJ himself he will not adjust anything on it anymore if this is how he wants it to look like Quote:
Actually many who has seen it at the theaters noticed the green tint there as well there are even some here on this forum that also says that and check this thread out it spells it out pretty clearly: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120737/...read/184169494 |
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![]() If there really was an error, I'm sure PJ would be the first to rectify it (and you never know, he may bend to pressure on this one)...given that the people forking out the $70 for their LOTR EE sets are going to be the first in line and spreading the word of mouth about The Hobbit. |
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Yea, I'm thinking they'll be packaged pretty well. But, if not, there's a local B&N 5 mins. away & I'll just go there & Exchange it. It happened with my Collector's Edition set of THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. No problem at all with swapping them out.
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sorry to rant. this has just been stuck in my craw for years. Last edited by Larkitect; 06-28-2011 at 05:25 AM. |
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Just saying it's possible, not probable or fact. Personally, I don't like the new color of FOTR and am happy to hold onto the DVDs. If this is the final version, so be it - life will go on without these blu-rays added to my modest shelf. |
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Let me see if I can convey our position and feeling in an analogy that you'll understand. Let's say you have a favorite burger joint. You've been going to this place for a decade and you think they have pretty much the best and juiciest burger around and the perfect mix of toppings. The one complaint you have is that the portion size seems a bit small. Well, you keep going back to this burger joint over and over again, and they know that you and all of their other customers want larger portion sizes, but it's taking them a long time to get around to it. One day, as you're driving by the restaurant, you see a big sign in the window announcing that, starting next month, their portion sizes are going to be 20% larger. Yippee, you say. On the first day of the next month, you're lined up at their door when they open. You run inside and order your favorite burger, now 20% larger. You sit down at the table, pick up the burger and take a big bite ... only to find that the beef patty is dry ... so very dry. This is not what you were expecting. This is not what you were waiting for. You wanted the goodness you had before but in a larger size. Here, you got the larger size, but the beef patty wasn't all it could and should have been. "What happened to your patty?!" You ask. "This thing should be juicy and delicious. There should be even more juiciness and deliciousness packed into this larger burger. After waiting this long, this just isn't acceptable." "Well, please be just a bit more patient and stick with us," they say. "We're planning something new that will fix it in the not too distant future." "Hmmm. Well, I've stuck it out this long," you tell yourself. "What's another little wait?" So, the months go by, you drop in from time to time for a bite when you happen to be in the area, and, finally, about a year later, you see a new in their window: "Starting next month, our bigger burgers are back to their old juiciness. Don't miss them!" Don't miss them? Of course you won't miss them. You've been waiting a long time for them. So, sure enough, there you are again on the first day of the next month with a crowd of people. Tingling with anticipation you walk through the door and order your nice big juicy burger. You bring it back to your table, sit down and take your first giddy bite ... but what the hell is this? The beef patty is big and it's back to it's old juiciness, which is great, but the spices sprinkled over the patty are now completely overpowering the flavor and all the toppings have been left out. "Excuse me, sir. Yes, you at the cash. I don't know what's going on but the spices in this burger are completely out of control and I don't have any toppings. Can you tell me why that is? I think that guy behind the counter that's assembling the burgers made a mistake." Suddenly a few other people in the restaurant start saying the same thing. But not everyone. Some say the increased spices are barely noticeable. They offer you a bit, but when you accept, you find theirs is just as overpowering. Others say that the lack of toppings is now 'just the way it is' and we need to get used to it. Suddenly the cashier speaks up: "Yeah, um, the burgers represent the cooks wishes, but he isn't here to comment." "The cook's wishes?" you ask. "That's strange. I see that everybody in the restaurant who ordered the cheeseburger or the bacon burger has all the right toppings and don't seem to have a mountain of spices sprinkled on their patties. Why would the cook only want this 'heavy spices and no toppings' thing to be done with the regular burger? That doesn't seem to make much sense." "Well," answers the cashier, "all I can say is that the burger reflects the cook's wishes." "Do you mean that the patty itself reflects the cook's wishes? Cause we know the cook prepared that directly. But there's also this issue of extra spices and no toppings that isn't clearly addressed when you just say, 'the burger'." "All I can say is that the burger reflects the cook's wishes." "I see." Do you get it, Croweyes? HeKS |
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I never didn't "get it", HeKS...just don't agree that this qualifies. You're talking about a situation where something you love is absolutely ruined by something overpowering. And with very few exceptions, hardly anyone is claiming this "issue" is there to that degree. Quite the contrary. Would I be personally happier if it weren't there at all? Honestly, yes. Am I going to let it ruin the film for me because I know it is there? No. And I just guess I feel sorry for people who don't have any choice but to be so tied into seeing something precisely as they want to see it that they MUST answer "yes" to the second question.
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