The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by faerieoftheforest

Finally getting round to watching the return of the king, and if you look at 0:09:47 and let it play, in the bottom right hand corner there looks like a little cloaked man fishing that isn't part of the picture. Can someone please check to see if it's on their return of the king please. What is it?

I see it too. there are a few round black spots that come and go before the larger black spot that resembles a silhouette of a fisherman appears. It is stationary in front of the image, then slides toward the bottom and disappears as the Return of the King title appears. I know that some of those forest scenes use miniatures. I woder if that has anything to do with it? Definitely a defect IMHO.

[LordCrumb]

Hey all, question about Fellowship audio.. when Sauron blows up, how is the bass when the shock wave blows over all the people? On the DVD, it sounded freaking awesome, but on the theatrical blu-rays (UK), it sounded quite dull and quiet.

Have they revamped the audio so my sub will expload like it used too?

[Grand Bob]

I have now finished The Two Towers, and am happy to say that there were no color or contrast issues. I thoroughly enjoyed the increase in definition over the theatrical editions. I am still bothered by the character and plot differences between the movie and the book, not only by the oft-mentioned Faramir deviation, but by the treatment that Gollum receives at the hands of the Ithilien rangers after he is captured at the Forbidden Pool. The worst treatment he suffers in the book is to merely to be bound while he is brought to the cave of Henneth Annun. In the movie, he is punched by Faramir's men, and this in amplified in the EE compared to the TE. Completely senseless, and counter to the character of the Gondorian rangers.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by KaiGusto

Hey all, question about Fellowship audio.. when Sauron blows up, how is the bass when the shock wave blows over all the people? On the DVD, it sounded freaking awesome, but on the theatrical blu-rays (UK), it sounded quite dull and quiet.

Have they revamped the audio so my sub will expload like it used too?

The audio is a perfect 10 for the entire EE trilogy. You have nothing to worry about.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

I see it too. there are a few round black spots that come and go before the larger black spot that resembles a silhouette of a fisherman appears. It is stationary in front of the image, then slides toward the bottom and disappears as the Return of the King title appears. I know that some of those forest scenes use miniatures. I woder if that has anything to do with it? Definitely a defect IMHO.

Are you able to post a screen capture of it?

[Joe Fisher]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

I see it too. there are a few round black spots that come and go before the larger black spot that resembles a silhouette of a fisherman appears. It is stationary in front of the image, then slides toward the bottom and disappears as the Return of the King title appears. I know that some of those forest scenes use miniatures. I woder if that has anything to do with it? Definitely a defect IMHO.

The fisherman silhouette is also on the EE of the DVD ROTK release in 2004.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

Are you able to post a screen capture of it?

Sorry, no. I don't have a BD player on my computer. I don't consider it a big deal. Not as big a deal as the Matrix defect. I would probably swap disks if a replacement program is offered, though.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by Joe Fisher

The fisherman silhouette is also on the EE of the DVD ROTK release in 2004.

Were there no complaints about it when the DVD set was released? If there were, I would think that they would have corrected it on the EE BDs. Not a big deal, but now that it has been mentioned, I'll be looking for it every time I watch RotK.

[antimatter]

okay guys i need your help....I have never seen lotr either version...I'm not a big fan of hobits and stuff...i was wondering as never have seen them and not really thrilled for the content within the movie...should i start with the theatrical versions...i can score it for under 30...it seems asthough the extended version maybe for avivid fans or people who are familar with the books....So would the theatrical version be a good starting point or is that just utter crap compared to the ee edition....remember i have never seen them and these kind of movies are not my kind of thing...what would you take a friend to see to start 'em off who's not really into it...Thanks

[gettodamoofies]

^ Go with the Theatrical Cuts. If it's a blind buy they're probably easier to digest than the Extended Editions. As a fan, I much prefer the Extended Editions as a number of sequences and smaller storylines are fleshed out which is gratifying if you've read the books etc. Having said that, if you're coming in new to the series then the Theatrical Cuts offer a more streamlined approach although they're hardly racing along in terms of pacing. It's just probably a little easier for newcomers to follow the main points rather than be "distracted" by the secondary plot lines and smaller character development moments.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

The audio is a perfect 10 for the entire EE trilogy. You have nothing to worry about.

I just finished Disk one of RotK. I'm in complete agreement with you on the audio for all three movies. Nasgool shrieks are incredible during the attack on Minas Tirith. Troll drum core isn't bad either. The bass vibrates through your body. FotR Moria and Helm's Deep also are perceptibly better on the EE with DTS HD MA 6.1 Discrete than they are on the TE with the DTS HD MA ES 6.1 matrix audio. Definitely demo material.

One scene that's slightly puzzling is Ch 7 0:27:30 (Disk 1 RotK) Eowyn's Dream. Someone else mentioned it earlier. Eowyn seems to be lit by a white spot light in what appears to be a candle/firelit room at Edoras. There is dialog between she and Aragorn "before daybreak". At the end of his talk with Eowyn, Aragorn goes outside and speaks with Legolas. It is clearly before daybreak, so I don't know where the light source is coming from. This scene seems more accurate in the TE edition.

I think I'll save RotK disk 2 for tomorrow.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

I have now finished The Two Towers, and am happy to say that there were no color or contrast issues. I thoroughly enjoyed the increase in definition over the theatrical editions. I am still bothered by the character and plot differences between the movie and the book, not only by the oft-mentioned Faramir deviation, but by the treatment that Gollum receives at the hands of the Ithilien rangers after he is captured at the Forbidden Pool. The worst treatment he suffers in the book is to merely to be bound while he is brought to the cave of Henneth Annun. In the movie, he is punched by Faramir's men, and this in amplified in the EE compared to the TE. Completely senseless, and counter to the character of the Gondorian rangers.

Gollum gets his revenge against Andy Serkis in the MTV Easter Egg on TTT.

[NYorker]

Originally Posted by mredman

Yes it should kill any doubt when did you hear of a theater transfer that was an error in plus PJ approved that screening at the theater with the green tint as that guy said.

I'm not going to go into all the technicalities and differences between the theatrical and blu-ray presentations and if/why there was also green tint in there. I'm no expert.

If it turns out in the end it was intentional - well, in the end I guess I'll buy the set, but I am willing to wait a while for the price to significantly drop. I have patience.

[amoergosum]

Originally Posted by NYorker

If it turns out in the end it was intentional - well, in the end I guess I'll buy the set

I'd really like to hear an official statement on why only 1/3 of the trilogy
has that tint.

[Troy73]

Originally Posted by atexp80

I much prefer the Extended Editions as a number of sequences and smaller storylines are fleshed out.

I still say to this day that "The Mouth of Sauron" sequence should have been in both cuts. The fact that that scene didn't make it to the theatrical cut of ROTK blows my mind. Such a creepy and eerie scene. Messes with me every time I see it.

[Kyle_g89]

my theory for people who notice the green tint, is that these people are the ones/fans who have watched lord of the rings many many times, and therefore are more sensitive to the "slight" changes.

i can see the green tint myself, the difference in the screens. i experienced something similar with the once upon a time in the west blu-ray release, except unfortunately, i was the only person who noticed the changes significantly.

[DarkDune]

Originally Posted by Kyle_g89

my theory for people who notice the green tint, is that these people are the ones/fans who have watched lord of the rings many many times, and therefore are more sensitive to the "slight" changes.

i can see the green tint myself, the difference in the screens. i experienced something similar with the once upon a time in the west blu-ray release, except unfortunately, i was the only person who noticed the changes significantly.

Can you try the Hue change I suggested some posts ago to see if it "corrects" the green-tint for you? Remember to note the current Hue setting so that you can go back to it.

[gregmasciola]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

I have now finished The Two Towers, and am happy to say that there were no color or contrast issues. I thoroughly enjoyed the increase in definition over the theatrical editions. I am still bothered by the character and plot differences between the movie and the book, not only by the oft-mentioned Faramir deviation, but by the treatment that Gollum receives at the hands of the Ithilien rangers after he is captured at the Forbidden Pool. The worst treatment he suffers in the book is to merely to be bound while he is brought to the cave of Henneth Annun. In the movie, he is punched by Faramir's men, and this in amplified in the EE compared to the TE. Completely senseless, and counter to the character of the Gondorian rangers.

I didn't really like how Faramir & his men were beating the crap out of Gollum either. It seems like they just captured him and beat him before even trying to ask him anything. It doesn't seem like something Faramir (even the new Faramir) would do.

Originally Posted by raygendreau

Gollum gets his revenge against Andy Serkis in the MTV Easter Egg on TTT.

That's my favorite of the easter eggs. Makes me laugh every time.

[NYorker]

In my opinion, The Two Towers EE is significantly better than the TE. I haven't seen it a while (almost 3 years, in fact!), but as I recall, (and anyone, correct my assumption if I'm off), Faramir at that point would do anything to get the ring, even if it meant getting information out of Gollum by force. PJ certainly wouldn't add a beating just for the sake of it. There was a reasoning behind it.

[Troy73]

Originally Posted by NYorker

PJ certainly wouldn't add a beating just for the sake of it. There was a reasoning behind it.

See I'm not so sure. Before PJ was the acclaimed director he is now he cut his teeth on low budget and exploit horror films. He's really changed his style considerably over the years. However, even in his best work you can see little elements of old Peter Jackson come through. This may have been one of those moments.