The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003) - Page 100 - Blu-ray Forum

Todd Smith · 06-10-2011, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JLTucker

This is probably the dumbest hyperbole regarding these screens yet. The amount of green Fellowship is nowhere near comparable to The Matrix's. Hell, Gandalf at Bag End looks more accurate to the color of grass than on the TE BD. I love it.

Let's face it. There will be more butthurt fans about this release because "Oh, my God! The color looks different even though this happens on a boatload of Blu-rays with new masters!"

Just my opinion bud......its ok if you dont agree, but there is no need for personnal attack

Velmeran · 06-10-2011, 06:13 PM

Just curious... this 1080p rip that is floating around out there right now? What's the size of it? Curious to see how compressed it is, considering WB is putting this out on 6 50gb BD's (now granted we know that each BD isn't filled to capacity but still).

Also to those who are truly freaking about the color from a couple of screenshots from (at least most of what I've seen) unclaimed/unidentified source material --- if the color really is an issue and there is enough of a backlash, WB will do an exchange program with corrected discs.

AreaUnderTheCurve · 06-10-2011, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Todd Smith

Just my opinion bud......its ok if you dont agree, but there is no need for personnal attack

An attack followed by an argument is perfectly acceptable. You did use hyperbole and you're wrong about it being remotely comparable to the Matrix BDs.

PS. It wasn't a personal attack, but an attack on the hyperbole.

Todd Smith · 06-10-2011, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by frogmort

I don't understand the people on here telling everyone to shut up about this. The only reason that this forum exists, is to discuss The Lord of the Rings extended edition blu-ray. I am a very easy going person, and I'm not all that overly picky about most things, but I love these movies, as I'm sure most of you do too.

I think the detail in most of the screenshots is better than I ever expected, but the green tint is something I've never seen in these movies before, and it bothers me. Snow and clouds should be white, not green, I would think.

I didn't come in here armed for attack, and looking for something to complain about, I pretty much blindly assumed that this transfer would be awesome. If the green tint doesn't bother you, then that's great! I really wish it didn't bother me, but it does. All of you do actually see it though, don't you? I also realize that all of the complaining and moaning isn't going to change the transfers, but I do have an opinion of them.

Does anyone really know who posted these screenshots, and how true to the source they really are? I don't think so, and I really hope that the blu-rays are going to make us all very, very happy.

A big +1.

frezaina · 06-10-2011, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JLTucker

What's the file size and average bit rate?

sent you PM

Todd Smith · 06-10-2011, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JLTucker

An attack followed by an argument is perfectly acceptable. You did use hyperbole and you're wrong about it being remotely comparable to the Matrix BDs.

PS. It wasn't a personal attack, but an attack on the hyperbole.

No I am not wrong, but we can agree to disagree.

Strevlac · 06-10-2011, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JLTucker

An attack followed by an argument is perfectly acceptable. You did use hyperbole and you're wrong about it being remotely comparable to the Matrix BDs.

PS. It wasn't a personal attack, but an attack on the hyperbole.

I guess I'm failing to see this hyperbole. Several of these shots do indeed recall The Matrix. Some of them are even greener. I'm not saying the screens are accurate, I have no idea but looking at what they are it's indeed a fair comparison.

42041 · 06-10-2011, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hindd92

Another question: is Peter Jackson supervising, or having part in this extended BD edition?

WB has said nothing about the new Fellowship master except that it was remastered from the original 2K files.

AreaUnderTheCurve · 06-10-2011, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Strevlac

I guess I'm failing to see this hyperbole. Several of these shots do indeed recall The Matrix. Some of them are even greener. I'm not saying the screens are accurate, I have no idea but looking at what they are it's indeed a fair comparison.

It isn't a fair comparison because Todd hasn't seen the entire film to make such a call, as far as I know. That's why it's hyperbole.

Todd Smith · 06-10-2011, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mrpink134

Todd is good at complaining about theses movies, he complained so much on the last ones he got a vacation from the forums. Pay him no mind he will never be happy with these releases.

If you dont understand why I was upset in the TE thread after seeing the massive improvement in these TE vs EE (supposed) shots, I dont know what to tell you. The problem is they fixed one problem, but traded it for another (assuming these shots are accurate).

I am complaining because this is my most anticipated blu release and its got significant issues IMO.

radagast · 06-10-2011, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by frezaina

well a lot of times that is true but i guarantee you that this 1080p rip that is "in the wild" is very accurare and true to the souce and so represents the final product. what you have been seeing in the screenshots is what you're gonna get!

How can you guarantee that?

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Originally Posted by frezaina

the release i have is a p2p release, which is miles ahead of the scene quality. Well wait until the 28 and you'll see for yourself.

How can you be sure of the quality of a p2p release? How can you be positive of the source used or of the method used to rip?

Furthermore, I'm reasonably certain that discussions of piracy are not allowed on this forum.

Todd Smith · 06-10-2011, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by radagast

Why don't we all wait and see the review on this site before anyone soils themselves?

Great advice since there is a chance these are not accurate.

Todd Smith · 06-10-2011, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

Then again you said they looked fantastic and didn't have any DNR problems.

Thanks, exactly.

AreaUnderTheCurve · 06-10-2011, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Todd Smith

If you dont understand why I was upset in the TE thread after seeing the massive improvement in these TE vs EE (supposed) shots, I dont know what to tell you. The problem is they fixed one problem, but traded it for another (assuming these shots are accurate).

I am complaining because this is my most anticipated blu release and its got significant issues IMO.

The TE does look bad and every complaint thrown at it is completely justified. Fellowship was so uneven. The first half looked terrible then it got better. The reverse is true of Towers, where the first 45 minutes or so look outstanding, then it turned to crap.

Significant issues from less than 20 screenshots? How does that work?

Todd Smith · 06-10-2011, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Strevlac

I guess I'm failing to see this hyperbole. Several of these shots do indeed recall The Matrix. Some of them are even greener. I'm not saying the screens are accurate, I have no idea but looking at what they are it's indeed a fair comparison.

Exactly my impression as well. I have hope that these are not accurate.

Todd Smith · 06-10-2011, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JLTucker

It isn't a fair comparison because Todd hasn't seen the entire film to make such a call, as far as I know. That's why it's hyperbole.

It goes without saying I am basing my comments (just like you) on what we are seeing in these shots which may or may not be accurate. IF they are correct though, this release is significantly flawed IMO. We will just have to wait for more info.

Todd Smith · 06-10-2011, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JLTucker

The TE does look bad and every complaint thrown at it is completely justified. Fellowship was so uneven. The first half looked terrible then it got better. The reverse is true of Towers, where the first 45 minutes or so look outstanding, then it turned to crap.

Significant issues from less than 20 screenshots? How does that work?

Like I said IF these shots are accurate AND representative of the transfer as a whole, this is a significant issue IMO.

Strevlac · 06-10-2011, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Todd Smith

It goes without saying I am basing my comments (just like you) on what we are seeing in these shots which may or may not be accurate.

Exactly. Why isn't this dude crying over all of the hyperbole spewed about the fantastic increase in detail?

Todd Smith · 06-10-2011, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Strevlac

Exactly. Why isn't this dude crying over all of the hyperbole spewed about the fantastic increase in detail?

Lol.....great point

frogmort · 06-10-2011, 07:01 PM

From what I understand about P2P file sharing, the original upload comes from one person, and then as people download from that first person, they begin to share with more and more people etc.

So we have one mystery person from anywhere on the planet, using mystery software to rip it from a mystery source, from an unknown region, onto a mystery pc.

Who's to say that the guy's computer monitor wasn't adjusted properly, and that he compensated by adjusting the color of the movie, just like some of the examples people have posted of "fixed" screenshots?

06-10-2011, 06:13 PM	#1982
Velmeran Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Minnesota Blu-ray collection:268 Trading Score:8	Just curious... this 1080p rip that is floating around out there right now? What's the size of it? Curious to see how compressed it is, considering WB is putting this out on 6 50gb BD's (now granted we know that each BD isn't filled to capacity but still). Also to those who are truly freaking about the color from a couple of screenshots from (at least most of what I've seen) unclaimed/unidentified source material --- if the color really is an issue and there is enough of a backlash, WB will do an exchange program with corrected discs.

06-10-2011, 07:01 PM	#2000
frogmort Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Frogmorton Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:27	From what I understand about P2P file sharing, the original upload comes from one person, and then as people download from that first person, they begin to share with more and more people etc. So we have one mystery person from anywhere on the planet, using mystery software to rip it from a mystery source, from an unknown region, onto a mystery pc. Who's to say that the guy's computer monitor wasn't adjusted properly, and that he compensated by adjusting the color of the movie, just like some of the examples people have posted of "fixed" screenshots?

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