The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[mredman]

Originally Posted by amoergosum

The Shire screenshots are underexposed...

what do you mean by that?
The green is there were its supposed to be - on the leaves and grass

[42041]

Originally Posted by mredman

Did you check Nicanor's screenshots they look amazing. Or what do you now think of this set?
white snow for you here
http://www.imagebam.com/image/f1845a136706406

Can I ask what monitor you're using to view these? It still looks like the old screenshots.

On my two laptop screens with low quality LCD panels, the green cast is very subtle (and looks more cyan). On my Samsung LCD TV and on my iPhone 4, it's decidedly greenish compared to the white background of the page.

Once again, this does not mean that it will appear greenish when viewing the movie without a white reference. But if these discs are produced incorrectly, I'd like to know before exchange programs and all that.

[MerrickG]

Originally Posted by Strevlac

Settle down Merrick. Post 3039 (the page right before this one):

"I never said any such thing at AVS forum. Please retract.

As for Bill Hunts comments, I misremembered and gladly stand corrected. I still believe he does not have a very critical eye."

Thank you for saying this.

Look, I have NO problem with people disagreeing with Bill Hunt. None at all, but I DO have a problem when people say he said something he didn't

You owned up to it and I appreciate it. I will consider it dropped.

[Strevlac]

Originally Posted by merrick97

I will consider it dropped.

Thanks Your Honor. I was really worried there for a second.

[amoergosum]

Originally Posted by mredman

Snow is white here and sky is blue and white like it is supposed to be
http://www.imagebam.com/image/f1845a136706406

That's not correct.
This is what white snow looks like >>>

[MerrickG]

Originally Posted by Strevlac

Thanks Your Honor. I was really worried there for a second.

Your Honor is reserved for the man in my avatar!

[Litlgi74]

Originally Posted by mredman

Where did you buy you set since you could get it so early?

Snow is white here and sky is blue and white like it is supposed to be
http://www.imagebam.com/image/f1845a136706406

Sorry for the PM... But I am still waiting on the moderator to approve my posts?

The image you are so excited to see with white snow is not from the FOTR...

This one from Nicanor is http://www.imagebam.com/image/dd344c136706458

Blue Snow...

Sorry to burst your bubble.

[Dotpattern]

Originally Posted by The Duke

I'll admit to having a bias against Bill Hunt, one thing I just can't stand is someone with an inflated ego, and his sense of self importance is one of the most inflated I've ever seen. And I will criticize his review because he obviously only spent an hour or two looking the films before making his judgment and posting his "review". In his My Two Cents column he posted that the EE BD showed up at his door in the morning, and he posted his "review" by mid afternoon. You can't watch 12+ hours of movies between mid morning and mid afternoon. He obviously skipped from scene to scene, perhaps taking notes, before deciding "yep, looks good, looks good". His mentioning of PJ approving a change in color timing without providing a single word of comment or analysis on the result is further proof of his lack of thoroughly watching the entire film. It's a shameless plug for page views, to have the first "review" up for EE Blu-ray.

I don't have a pre-order in, I think the price is ridiculous, and I'm waiting until I see a detailed, professional review here, and elsewhere.

Why does someone, who's already seen the movies in their entirety, need to watch them from beginning to end yet again simply to do a review of the PQ and AQ? Are you concerned that he missed some major fluctuation in quality from scene to scene?

[mredman]

Originally Posted by amoergosum

That's not correct.
This is what white snow looks like >>>

are you serious here yours look more red. The actual screenshot has WHITE snow on the mountains if you can't see that then that is your problem
http://www.imagebam.com/image/f1845a136706406

[toddly6666]

These Extended Edition blu-rays look worse than the dvd. Pixilation, DNR, interlaced looking in the final two hours of Return Of the King. Worst release of the year. I'm going to sell these Extended blu-rays for $5 each.

Extended DVD Video Quality: 3.5/5
Theatrical blu-ray Video Quality: 4/5
Extended blu-ray Video Quality: 2/5



And im just kidding. I didn't buy the Extended blu-ray versions yet. Did anyone get scared?

[Pieter V]

Thank you for the pics, looks amazing. Btw here is the gallery link, instead 25 links.

http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/vk1b...sa20g2vxoc5jn/

[Nicanor]

So.
The TE has a more red layer and the EE has SOME scenes with a green layer.
As i said .. no need to worry.
When you will watch the movie you will not notice the colors but the details .

In a couple of minutes i will post to youtube the same sample with Gandalf and Bilbo from my discs.

[42041]

Originally Posted by mredman

are you serious here yours look more red. The actual screenshot has WHITE snow on the mountains if you can't see that then that is your problem

Let's take the monitor completely out of the mix: the RGB channel values of the snow are about 168 red, 180 green, and 158 blue. It's entirely possible that some monitors cannot render these shades accurately, but there's definitely a green cast there.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Nicanor

So.
The TE has a more red layer and the EE has SOME scenes with a green layer.
As i said .. no need to worry.
When you will watch the movie you will not notice the colors but the details .

In a couple of minutes i will post to youtube the same sample with Gandalf and Bilbo from my discs.

yep i also see red in his picture. But in yours from the actual disc. It is clear WHITE if he can't see that then it is his problem
here it is again:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/f1845a136706406

[amoergosum]

Originally Posted by mredman

are you serious here yours look more red. The actual screenshot has WHITE snow on the mountains if you can't see that then that is your problem

LOL....man...just open Adobe Lightroom and click on the snow with
the white balance tool.

By the way...here's what it would look like with the correct white balance and correct exposure >>>

[Litlgi74]

Originally Posted by mredman

yep i also see red in his picture. But in yours from the actual disc. It is clear WHITE if he can't see that then it is his problem
here it is again:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/f1845a136706406

This image is not form the FOTR...

[Post Prod]

neither screenshot shows snow that is actually neutral white.

Snow isn't white either, to be technical it's colorless, it's a reflective surface. Which means on some occasions it can reflect all light equally and appear to be a neutral white while in other situations it can appear to be tinted.

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by 42041

Let's take the monitor completely out of the mix: the RGB channel values of the snow are about 168 red, 180 green, and 158 blue. It's entirely possible that some monitors cannot render these shades accurately, but there's definitely a green cast there.

A debate with him is an exercise in futility. I remember in the original release's thread he just kept posting over and over again about how there were no DNR problems, you could not improve the release, the screenshots were all "lies," etc. Now that it's obvious and accepted that the original had serious technical issues he's completely abandoned that.... actually most (or all) that spent countless hours completely denying its issues have I've noticed.

Anyway, the more I see of this the more it looks like the color timing is less of an issue than it originally appeared to be. In certain scenes it's overbearing but it doesn't seem to be too heavy throughout the movie. It's way, way less of an issue that the PQ problems were in the Theatrical release. I guess I'll know when I watch it.

I do wish they had made certains portions less green though. I hate that trend.

[The Duke]

Originally Posted by Dotpattern

Why does someone, who's already seen the movies in their entirety, need to watch them from beginning to end yet again simply to do a review of the PQ and AQ? Are you concerned that he missed some major fluctuation in quality from scene to scene?

Sure, when he says things like "the HD image quality for this film [Fellowhsip] is vastly improved from the Theatrical Blu-ray", you can't determine that from just scanning through a few scenes, you need to watch it in its entirety. How do dark scenes hold up? Any black crush? And especially with the color timing changed you need to watch everything - does the previous blue sky now look teal in some scenes? How about the snowy scenes, is the snow still snowy white, or does it looks bit gray now? You only need to watch American Graffiti to see how major fluctuations in quality can occur from scene to scene.

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

Originally Posted by amoergosum

By the way...here's what it would look like with the correct white balance and correct exposure

The "correct" white balance and exposure are what the director and cinematographer say they are.