The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[Roy Batty]

Originally Posted by nathan_393

I watched the sample video without the split down the middle and honestly, the colours aren't terrible (but they're not great) and it's a little too dark BUT I'm impressed with the level of actual detail here and would watch this over the TE.

After a minute or two, I think my eyes would probably adjust fine to this new colour temperature. And I'd enjoy the film, which is I suppose what matters

But it's not just the difference in color timing, there's also some kind of haze that plays havoc with the contrast and makes most images look underexposed, just look at the shot of the ring half-buried in the snow right above when compared to the old color:

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Then again, while the color timing is clearly intentional by all evidences and testimonials, the exposure issue could have been introduced by the screen capture process.

[SoundofSilence01]

Does anybody know what the packaging looks like. Is it similar to the last set where all the movies are in a snapcase? Or does anyone have photos of the actual set?

[siso]

Originally Posted by Roy Batty

But it's not just the difference in color timing, there's also some kind of haze that plays havoc with the contrast and makes most images look underexposed, just look at the shot of the ring half-buried in the snow right above when compared to the old color:

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Then again, while the color timing is clearly intentional by all evidences and testimonials, the exposure issue could have been introduced by the screen capture process.

I think one of the ways to reduce the haze is to temper with your contrast and gamma settings...

[Romansh]

Originally Posted by kingkong650

I would personally wait for screencaps from these 'legit' official reviewers confirming their observations about the skies being blue rather than green before you break out the champagne...

+1

Originally Posted by amoergosum

I'm not sure...there can be differences.

Unless the changed the point where they split the movie, it should still be reasonably close (unless the time is from a PAL DVD, of course).

Originally Posted by Grubert

If the color-timing zeitgeist is any indication Obi Wan's lightsaber will be teal and Darth Vader's will be orange.

Some might argue that it's better than pink

Originally Posted by toddly6666

These Extended Edition blu-rays look worse than the dvd. Pixilation, DNR, interlaced looking in the final two hours of Return Of the King. Worst release of the year. I'm going to sell these Extended blu-rays for $5 each.

Extended DVD Video Quality: 3.5/5
Theatrical blu-ray Video Quality: 4/5
Extended blu-ray Video Quality: 2/5



And im just kidding. I didn't buy the Extended blu-ray versions yet. Did anyone get scared?

We've been looking at too many screenshots to even believe this for one second.
I did think you were a bit crazy for a second or two, however

Oh and LOL at "interlaced-looking" - that would certainly be an interesting surprise

[RADEN]

Originally Posted by SoundofSilence01

Does anybody know what the packaging looks like. Is it similar to the last set where all the movies are in a snapcase? Or does anyone have photos of the actual set?

Posted a million pages ago, it's understandable if you missed it.

Originally Posted by Velmeran

Here's a few more for ya then

Sutter posted some additional screenshots of the set (Box, Cases, discs, etc) in the slipcover thread. It was also confirmed that the BD cases are black.

Open Box, no discs (Map of Middle-Earth)

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Spine of Box

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Back/Side of Box

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Back of the BD Cases

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Discs/Inserts

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[Romansh]

Originally Posted by SoundofSilence01

Does anybody know what the packaging looks like. Is it similar to the last set where all the movies are in a snapcase? Or does anyone have photos of the actual set?

Look a few pages back. It's been posted and re-posted.

[Velmeran]

Originally Posted by SoundofSilence01

Does anybody know what the packaging looks like. Is it similar to the last set where all the movies are in a snapcase? Or does anyone have photos of the actual set?

Here ya go.

Originally Posted by sutter

"Front" of Box

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Opened Box

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Front/Art of all 3 cases

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Originally Posted by Velmeran

Here's a few more for ya then

Sutter posted some additional screenshots of the set (Box, Cases, discs, etc) in the slipcover thread. It was also confirmed that the BD cases are black.

Open Box, no discs (Map of Middle-Earth)

[Show spoiler]

Spine of Box

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Back/Side of Box

[Show spoiler]

Back of the BD Cases

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Discs/Inserts

[Show spoiler]

[Mavrick]

it's worth noting that the color timing for these films has been redone. I've confirmed with production-related sources that Jackson and cinematographer Andrew Lesnie were directly involved in all decisions related to this new transfer and approved it personally. So to the extent that there are changes to the color-timing, they were made at Jackson and Lesnie's direction - the films look exactly as they want them to.

If thats the way they want it to be seen who are we to argue.

[Goldengirl]

I never thought I would be able to understand the "Han shot first" people, but I'm beginning to.

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by Mavrick

If thats the way they want it to be seen who are we to argue.

People interested in seeing it without a newly-added obnoxious green tint, I guess.

The same reason I'd love to watch the original Star Wars without insane CGI nonsense added to seemingly every single shot (not that I'm saying they're anywhere near in the same league... but the constant revisionism gets annoying after a while no matter how minor.) The original did not have this color timing, I'd like to watch the best presentation of the original - it's one of (if not the) my favorite movies of all time.

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by Mavrick

If thats the way they want it to be seen who are we to argue.

Now I see the Star Wars "Han Shoots First" lot in a very different light. Now I really know what they are so upset about. I watched these movies as a teenager in the theater, and on DVD in the extended form. It was my first time seeing a epic fantasy film, and my first introduction to LoTR as I hadn't read the books at that point, so they are special to me. They are etched in my mind with the color timing that they originally had so I'd like the BD to reflect that. This is just with color timing- imagine if Peter Jackson also replaced the miniatures with CGI and replaced actors with digital versions of other people...

On top of this, I wouldn't have so much of an issue with the new color timing as I do if it merely emphasized greens, instead of tinting the entire picture in green. I remember seeing the Fellowship of the Ring treking across the mountains. When Boromir picks up the ring from the snow, the snow was a brilliant white. Now it's a puke green. The golden hues that the first movie had are now gone. White transitions are now green. I honestly can't see how anyone can be OK with that. Personally, I'm a bit sick of all of the revisionism with films these days. If you are going to change something, fine- but let the people who cherish the films and want them to look as they originally did have the original versions as well. Ridley Scott did this with Blade Runner and Gladiator (extended and theatrical cuts, not sure if the theatrical cut kept the old timing in the new transfer), and Steven Spielberg did it with Close Encounters of the Third Kind (director's, studio, and theatrical cuts) and ET (director's and theatrical).

I really can't imagine Jackson, being as picky about the technical aspects of his movies as he is, not noticing the across-the-board green tint. This isn't really color timing as it is watching the movie with a green filter in front of the screen. When Gladiator was re-done, were the night scenes dark gold instead of black? Was everything tinted yellow? Nope! That's why nobody really complains about the new timing for that movie, because it was done properly.

[bookcase]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

People interested in seeing it without a newly-added obnoxious green tint, I guess.

But we all know that if there wasn't a green tint, people would find something else wrong with the release.

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

Tweaking the color isn't a huge deal to me, but considering all the uproar over the image quality of the FOTR TE Blu, it's odd that Jackson and WB would court controversy again with the EE of the same film.

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by Danielle Ni Dhighe

Tweaking the color isn't a huge deal to me, but considering all the uproar over the image quality of the FOTR TE Blu, it's odd that Jackson and WB would court controversy again with the EE of the same film.

The thing is, these knobs aren't going to twist themselves. If we're not going to twist the Hell out of the DNR knob some knob is going to have to be twisted.

*looks at insane green tint knob*

Perfect.

Originally Posted by singhcr

Now I see the Star Wars "Han Shoots First" lot in a very different light.

Yes, a new sickly green light.

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by singhcr

Now I see the Star Wars "Han Shoots First" lot in a very different light. Now I really know what they are so upset about. I watched these movies as a teenager in the theater, and on DVD in the extended form. It was my first time seeing a epic fantasy film, and my first introduction to LoTR as I hadn't read the books at that point, so they are special to me. They are etched in my mind with the color timing that they originally had so I'd like the BD to reflect that. This is just with color timing- imagine if Peter Jackson also replaced the miniatures with CGI and replaced actors with digital versions of other people...

On top of this, I wouldn't have so much of an issue with the new color timing as I do if it merely emphasized greens, instead of tinting the entire picture in green. I remember seeing the Fellowship of the Ring treking across the mountains. When Boromir picks up the ring from the snow, the snow was a brilliant white. Now it's a puke green. The golden hues that the first movie had are now gone. White transitions are now green. I honestly can't see how anyone can be OK with that. Personally, I'm a bit sick of all of the revisionism with films these days. If you are going to change something, fine- but let the people who cherish the films and want them to look as they originally did have the original versions as well. Ridley Scott did this with Blade Runner and Gladiator (extended and theatrical cuts, not sure if the theatrical cut kept the old timing in the new transfer), and Steven Spielberg did it with Close Encounters of the Third Kind (director's, studio, and theatrical cuts) and ET (director's and theatrical).

I really can't imagine Jackson, being as picky about the technical aspects of his movies as he is, not noticing the across-the-board green tint. This isn't really color timing as it is watching the movie with a green filter in front of the screen. When Gladiator was re-done, were the night scenes dark gold instead of black? Was everything tinted yellow? Nope! That's why nobody really complains about the new timing for that movie, because it was done properly.

Agreed. I just want the color I have been viewing for years now which is how TT and ROTK are......why has FOTR had such a drastic and IMO ugly change?

[frogmort]

This was just posted by Ralph Potts over at avs:

"Greetings,

I watched the entire sequence beginning just before the switch to the snowy mountain which begins at 7:22 or so. The scene just before it looks fine as Gandalf tells the Fellowship that they must take the mountain pass. As soon as it switches to the wide angle shot of them traversing the mountain the image has a noticebly bluish tinge (the comparison you reference is right on target). I watched the remainder of the sequence and the shots of the snowy mountain all look this way. The ones that flip back and forth to Isengard (spelling?) look fine.

I watched the same sequence on the FOTR EE DVD and it does not look this way. Quite frankly I am at a loss for the reasoning behind this."

Doesn't sound too promising.

[WorkShed]

Yeah, now my thoughts on this are changing back to my first instincts. I'm thinking that there will be a recall. The color is SOOOOO off on this and inconsistent. I doubt that Jackson would have made such changes to the first film (especially since the other films still look like their DVD counterparts, color-wise).

[frogmort]

Originally Posted by WorkShed

Yeah, now my thoughts on this are changing back to my first instincts. I'm thinking that there will be a recall. The color is SOOOOO off on this and inconsistent. I doubt that Jackson would have made such changes to the first film (especially since the other films still look like their DVD counterparts, color-wise).

I really hate to say it, but I think I'll just stick with my TE blu-rays for now. They do have their problems, but they're really not that bad.
Looks like I just saved almost $100!

[WorkShed]

I agree. I actually never found anything egregious about them. I know people attack the DNR, but the comparison shots don't look drastically different, to my eyes.

[blugojira]

I don't get it. It doesn't look that bad.