The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003) - Page 176 - Blu-ray Forum

Blu Titan · 06-17-2011, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 42041

I do not question that Robert Harris knows worlds more about film restoration than I do

But I'm not sure what that fact has to do with mostly subjective judgements regarding the quality of this release?

Per B. Hunt:

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I've confirmed with production-related sources that Jackson and cinematographer Andrew Lesnie were directly involved in all decisions related to this new transfer and approved it personally.

I am sure peole will question Bill's subjectivity and that is their perogative. But he is stating the above as fact. If someone does not believe him they should either contact their own industry sources to confirm or deny the above. Better yet, how about contacting Warner/Peter Jackson about the above statement and make Bill issue a retraction? No...it is much easier to post screenshots from the web and make an evaluation

. As I am sure that if Mr. Harris' conclusion were in agreement with their stance, they would be citing it as gospel.

mredman · 06-17-2011, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu Titan

And you can make those statements based on what exactly? Have you personally seen the EE LOTR on Blu-ray?

Yeah i am almost 100% if not 100% sure that the EE BD is the same as the theatrical presentations of the EE screened this week and was approved by PJ he even said that the BD EE is the SAME as the one you see here at the theater

In that statement he also mentioned that this is the way he wants it to be experienced with this new look he applied on them.

So i am 100% sure now the EE BD is the once he approved. If it were a error wouldn't this tint be over all the place. And watching the screen shots and blubew's review he say the tint is in some places. Which of course PJ put there. This is his new version of the movie that he wants it to look like.

Petyr_Baelish · 06-17-2011, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MEB

The BluBrew Review is a good, honest review. However, it's too bad the reviewer was so wiling to accept the "bad" just because there was some "good".

For a title this important in a 15-disc (expensive) box set there shouldn't be ANY significant stuff to complain about!

Mark

He feels that the good outweighs the bad. That's his opinion. The fact that the discs have much more detail than the theatrical editions is more important to him than the color. For the most part, I have to agree. I would definitely prefer that both things be good, but I buy blu rays for the improvement of detail: not so much the color. That being said, the dilemma I face is whether I will wait for something better to hopefully arrive or will I be impatient and buy this set. Being American, I will likely buy this set. Either way, I won't be settling for the dvds or the theatrical editions.

mrpink134 · 06-17-2011, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu Titan

Per B. Hunt:

I am sure peole will question Bill's subjectivity and that is their perogative. But he is stating the above as fact. If someone does not believe him they should either contact their own industry sources to confirm or deny the above. Better yet, how about contacting Warner/Peter Jackson about the above statement and make Bill issue a retraction? No...it is much easier to post screenshots from the web and make an evaluation

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Well said Blu! of course they only want to complain about the release after 3 reviewers so far liked it.

mredman · 06-17-2011, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by merrick97

Thats a YOU problem.

Because the fact of the matter is that not everybody is complaining about them.

There probably isnt a SINGLE release out there that somebody cant find anything to complain about it.

You definitely got that right

mredman · 06-17-2011, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu Titan

Per B. Hunt:

I am sure peole will question Bill's subjectivity and that is their perogative. But he is stating the above as fact. If someone does not believe him they should either contact their own industry sources to confirm or deny the above. Better yet, how about contacting Warner/Peter Jackson about the above statement and make Bill issue a retraction? No...it is much easier to post screenshots from the web and make an evaluation

. As I am sure that if Mr. Harris' conclusion were in agreement with their stance, they would be citing it as gospel.

Ok that gotta close the case now. PJ has approved the new look of the EE BD. It is over now and i really like this new change

greg_achen · 06-17-2011, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mrpink134

Well said Blu! of course they only want to complain about the release after 3 reviewers so far liked it.

I don't so much see complaining as I see active discussions. Am I posting in the right forums? I thought this was the place to have discussions about the pros and cons of a Blu Ray release and share opinions that may *gasp* differ from others sometimes, even professional reviewers.

I do hear a lot of complaining about complaining though.

Parasite68 · 06-17-2011, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by E_I

How is BB shipping this a week and half early? This is BB here in the U.S. right?

Yes in US... After doing some digging, it looks like what was shipped to me today is a bonus disc that BB is offering. No word yet on free ring being shipped, but I'm guessing it's in that package coming as well. I thought that was might soon for the boxed set to ship!

Petyr_Baelish · 06-17-2011, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Parasite68

Yes in US... After doing some digging, it looks like what was shipped to me today is a bonus disc that BB is offering. No word yet on free ring being shipped, but I'm guessing it's in that package coming as well. I thought that was might soon for the boxed set to ship!

Hey let us know if that ring works.

WorkShed · 06-17-2011, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by greg_achen

I don't so much see complaining as I see active discussions. Am I posting in the right forums? I thought this was the place to have discussions about the pros and cons of a Blu Ray release and share opinions that may *gasp* differ from others sometimes, even professional reviewers.

I do hear a lot of complaining about complaining though.

Well, I'm going to complain about the complaining of complaining!!

I have started ignoring when certain people post, though.

42041 · 06-17-2011, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu Titan

Per B. Hunt:

I am sure peole will question Bill's subjectivity and that is their perogative. But he is stating the above as fact. If someone does not believe him they should either contact their own industry sources to confirm or deny the above. Better yet, how about contacting Warner/Peter Jackson about the above statement and make Bill issue a retraction? No...it is much easier to post screenshots from the web and make an evaluation

. As I am sure that if Mr. Harris' conclusion were in agreement with their stance, they would be citing it as gospel.

I know what Bill said, but there's certain things about this release that make me think that Peter Jackson's new color grading and the greenish tint may not be the same thing.

For me the question will be settled when Jackson or someone from his camp, or WHV, confirms the blu-rays represent what he approved... because what he actually viewed/signed off on is vague at this point. PJ has been made aware of the issue, apparently.

Parasite68 · 06-17-2011, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Boone_Carlyle

Hey let us know if that ring works.

As soon as I get it, I'm gonna start a quest to (insert favorite active volcano here) and toss it in just to be safe! I'm gonna post 2 sets of photos of my quest here on bluray.com so everyone can argue which set is the highest definition!

Petyr_Baelish · 06-17-2011, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Parasite68

As soon as I get it, I'm gonna start a quest to (insert favorite active volcano here) and toss it in just to be safe! I'm gonna post 2 sets of photos of my quest here on bluray.com so everyone can argue which set is the highest definition!

Advice: just fly the eagles there.

mredman · 06-17-2011, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu Titan

Per B. Hunt:

I am sure peole will question Bill's subjectivity and that is their perogative. But he is stating the above as fact. If someone does not believe him they should either contact their own industry sources to confirm or deny the above. Better yet, how about contacting Warner/Peter Jackson about the above statement and make Bill issue a retraction? No...it is much easier to post screenshots from the web and make an evaluation

. As I am sure that if Mr. Harris' conclusion were in agreement with their stance, they would be citing it as gospel.

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Originally Posted by 42041

I know what Bill said, but there's certain things about this release that make me think that Peter Jackson's new color grading and the greenish tint may not be the same thing.

For me the question will be settled when Jackson or someone from his camp, or WHV, confirms the blu-rays represent what he approved... because what he actually viewed/signed off on is vague at this point. PJ has been made aware of the issue, apparently.

Didn't you read Blu Titans post. PJ has approved the BD EE.

Also this from Robert Harris:

To my eye, there may be a point or two toward cyan-blue, but nothing like what I'm seeing in the youtube example. Skies are generally a pleasant blue, flesh tones, even for non-humans are normal, greens are strong. I presume they're not in Kansas anymore.

Detail is superb, recognizing the fact that we're dealing with 2k.

I'm seeing no problems whatsoever. A beautiful and satisfying image.

Projected via a JVC RS50 recently tuned by my go-to expert Kevin Miller, on a Stewart white 1.3.

This is Robert Harris. If he thinks this release is amazing then how can anyone argue against it.

Blu Titan · 06-17-2011, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mredman

Ok that gotta close the case now. PJ has approved the new look of the EE BD. It is over now and i really like this new change

Have you actually seen the new versions? I would be that you have not, but you already have all the answers

. And, every subjective opinion is influenced by the knowledge and expertise of the person posting it...for now I'll take RAH's opinion and make up my own mind when I watch them in their entirety.

HeavyHitter · 06-17-2011, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wormraper

Bill Hunt has ALWAYS been biased..... lets put it that way... any of us who went through the format war saw that right off the bat

Bill was RIGHT though all along in the format war; Blu-ray was superior and ended up crushing HD DVD in the end.

AreaUnderTheCurve · 06-17-2011, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Bill was RIGHT though all along in the format war; Blu-ray was superior and ended up crushing HD DVD in the end.

Would you happen to have links to his comments on the war?

Todd Smith · 06-17-2011, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mredman

Didn't you read Blu Titans post. PJ has approved the BD EE.

We need to hear it straight from the horses mouth so to speak about the actual blu ray discs and not from "x" who talked to "y" who confirmed with "z". Until then, many wont be satisfied with the type of "approval" these supposedly have and we have been told. The PJ note at the beginning of the theatrical showings does not count much either since (as its been mentioned several times now) many things could have happened between that approval and when they actually hit the discs.

AreaUnderTheCurve · 06-17-2011, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Todd Smith

We need to hear it straight from the horses mouth so to speak about the actual blu ray discs and not from "x" who talked to "y" who confirmed with "z". Until then, many wont be satisfied with the type of "approval" these supposedly have and we have been told.

So I guess what he said before the FotR EE presentation with the new master doesn't count.

I didn't see your edit. On the 28 I'll be able to tell you if the BD matches what I saw on the big screen. If it does, he gave his approval.

Red Pill 101 · 06-17-2011, 03:08 AM

C'mon Ken I'm dying for your review!

Despite the other reviews I've read thus far, your review is really what I'm looking forward to.

I think I speak for many of us here.

While the other reviews are much appreciated and respected, I've always kind of considered this site to be my litmus test of quality for a Blu; I trust this site and it's reviewers.

Don't take the above the wrong way. I'm excited and impatient, not mad or annoyed. I realize these things take time.

As for the others: JL Tucker and everyone else who re-watched it in the theater the other night: thank you for your information as well.

Despite our opinions regarding the color, maybe we can all agree that this is the best The Fellowship has ever looked on disc.

I'm honestly happy with what I've seen of the final result. HOWEVER, I would like confirmation from Jackson if the disc meets his approval.

06-17-2011, 03:08 AM	#3520
Red Pill 101 Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2009 Location:PA Home Theater Gallery:35 Blu-ray collection:702	C'mon Ken I'm dying for your review! Despite the other reviews I've read thus far, your review is really what I'm looking forward to. I think I speak for many of us here. While the other reviews are much appreciated and respected, I've always kind of considered this site to be my litmus test of quality for a Blu; I trust this site and it's reviewers. Don't take the above the wrong way. I'm excited and impatient, not mad or annoyed. I realize these things take time. As for the others: JL Tucker and everyone else who re-watched it in the theater the other night: thank you for your information as well. Despite our opinions regarding the color, maybe we can all agree that this is the best The Fellowship has ever looked on disc. I'm honestly happy with what I've seen of the final result. HOWEVER, I would like confirmation from Jackson if the disc meets his approval.

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