The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003) - Page 191 - Blu-ray Forum

greg_achen · 06-17-2011, 07:31 PM

While I certainly view The Lord of the Rings as art, as I do a lot of movies, never forget that the only reason The Lord of the Rings was greenlit and made into films was to make money. Just as Apple won't develop a product if it doesn't believe it to be profitable, the same can be said for big budget motion pictures. The Lord of the Rings movies are pieces of art and products in their own right. While it is within Jackson's right to modify his art, as a consumer of his product, I have the right to disagree with his modifications. This is assuming there were no mistakes in the transfer and what we are seeing is 100% accurate to his new vision for the film.

42041 · 06-17-2011, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by retablo

Any of them. I'm a professional photographer, I know what it's like to just "lay over" a green tint. Whether or not they are different whites, they would be affected. The tint would be the pretty much the SAME over every shot, unless you manually adjust it in every shot (which, in that case, it would be intentional for sure)... thats like saying you make a film black and white but certain scenes are more black and white than others.

But that's the thing, it's not black and white, there are different underlying color schemes. Some shots are less affected by "greening" than others. If a shot is strongly red to begin with, it will still look red with a slight green cast. I'm at work and I don't have Photoshop here, but I'm guessing any eyeballs that look like they should be white do indeed push measurably green like every other highlight in these shots.

petmic10 · 06-17-2011, 07:35 PM

Kudos to Ken for an awesome review. Very well done.

Count me as another person who went to the screening Tuesday
night and did not see any cyan/green tint. The mountain scene
that has everyone up in arms was white and I especially paid close
attention to the "transition scene" and it too was white.

I don't know what to think anymore.

eegah · 06-17-2011, 07:37 PM

Well this review just saved me £55. My order has been cancelled and i'll stick to the dvd's. Some of those screen shots I have seen are just so wrong, reminded me of printing a photo and then when you see the outcome you realise one of your inks has ran out.

Danielle Ni Dhighe · 06-17-2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Velmeran

Occasionally. There are a fair amount of people who don't mind all of the changes, just have problems with certain ones.

The Han vs. Greedo scene is the only one of Lucas' changes that really bothers me, because it greatly changes how Han is perceived as a character, IMO. Or the replacement of guns with walkie talkies in E.T., which just looks silly.

Banned User · 06-17-2011, 07:41 PM

Well my impression is this is a mistake, but until we know for sure there's no point in arguing if it was intentional or not. Peter Jackson is usually really good about this kind of stuff when it comes to his fanbase. On the off chance it is intentional I'd hate to think I'll have to own the DVD and Bluray of films because they are different. Not a huge fan of altering films after their release. Given Jackson is a huge film fan I would assume he would feel the same way.

Puonti · 06-17-2011, 07:47 PM

Lurked in the thread and read the last 50 pages, looked at the cyan/green-tint screens, felt it was noticeable but not a deal breaker, read the review, didn't cancel my order.

Can't wait to watch the whole trilogy in it's HD goodness.

Inspector Toschi · 06-17-2011, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Boone_Carlyle

I agree. The art is out there and it belongs to us now.

No, it really doesn't. Nothing is more pathetic than fans who think they own a movie because they paid to see it in the almighty theater. Thousands of professionals put countless hours into making these 3 films for over five years. Yet they have no say in how they want their "product" presented because a fan paid ten dollars and sat in the theater for 3 hours? Uh huh... and spare me the "we made it a success" bull because we've already heard it during every other high profile BD release (Hint hint, you're no the first)

Have fun with your DNR'd, mushy, lack-of-any-detail ten year old transfers on the TE BDs. You and the disgruntled Alien/Aliens/Star Wars/Last Of The Mohicans fans (To name only a few) now have something else to complain about.

Petyr_Baelish · 06-17-2011, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspector Toschi

No, it really doesn't. Nothing is more pathetic than fans who think they own a movie because they paid to see it in the almighty theater. Thousands of professionals put countless hours into making these 3 films for over five years. Yet they have no say in how they want their "product" presented because a fan paid ten dollars and sat in the theater for 3 hours? Uh huh... and spare me the "we made it a success" bull because we've already heard it during every other high profile BD release (Hint hint, you're no the first)

Have fun with your DNR'd, mushy, lack-of-any-detail ten year old transfers on the TE BDs. You and the disgruntled Alien/Aliens/Star Wars/Last Of The Mohicans fans (To name only a few) now have something else to complain about.

Why did you edit my post?

greg_achen · 06-17-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Strevlac

I think PJ should go back and re-shoot the entire saga.

I think it is a possibility he might swap out the shot of Ian Holm finding the ring in the prologue of FotR and replace it with a shot of Martin Freeman for the ultimate edition after The Hobbit. If that were to happen though, the debates that would ensue would probably make this one sound tame.

Benchman · 06-17-2011, 07:53 PM

I hope this drop on black friday. I love these movies but $83 bucks?! Not right now at least

dcowboy7 · 06-17-2011, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Strevlac

I think PJ should go back and re-shoot the entire saga.

I see a reboot.

Whats JJ Abrams upto after the next star trek ?

Puonti · 06-17-2011, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Velmeran

You managed to make it through the last 50 pages or so, Kudos to you. That's some tough reading, considering it's all pretty much the same every page.

In retrospective, I'm surprised as well.

Grand Bob · 06-17-2011, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Strevlac

I think PJ should go back and re-shoot the entire saga.

Don't say that too loud! Someone might decide that the next "improvement" the movie needs is to replace Gollum with Jar-Jar Binks.

Petyr_Baelish · 06-17-2011, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by greg_achen

I think it is a possibility he might swap out the shot of Ian Holm finding the ring in the prologue of FotR and replace it with a shot of Martin Freeman for the ultimate edition after The Hobbit. If that were to happen though, the debates that would ensue would probably make this one sound tame.

Also make the fellowship gollum look like the two Towers gollum.

Strevlac · 06-17-2011, 07:56 PM

My vote for the re-make:

Fewer scenes with crying hobbits.

Brightstar · 06-17-2011, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Boone_Carlyle

Also make the fellowship gollum look like the two Towers gollum.

why dont you rent them when they come out and see for yourself instead of complaining

petmic10 · 06-17-2011, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Boone_Carlyle

If you are sure. There is indeed a ****-up that has occurred.

Well, some people have confirmed they did see a cyan/green tint
at the AMC showing. Thats what has me so confused, I knew what to
look for because of the controversy and yet I did not see it.

Danielle Ni Dhighe · 06-17-2011, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Grand Bob

Don't say that too loud! Someone might decide that the next "improvement" the movie needs is to replace Gollum with Jar-Jar Binks.

"Meesa's precious!"

Gaius Marius · 06-17-2011, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Grand Bob

Don't say that too loud! Someone might decide that the next "improvement" the movie needs is to replace Gollum with Jar-Jar Binks.

Or decide that Sauron shoots first

06-17-2011, 07:31 PM	#3801
greg_achen Expert Member Member since:Oct 2010 Location:N/A Blu-ray collection:145	While I certainly view The Lord of the Rings as art, as I do a lot of movies, never forget that the only reason The Lord of the Rings was greenlit and made into films was to make money. Just as Apple won't develop a product if it doesn't believe it to be profitable, the same can be said for big budget motion pictures. The Lord of the Rings movies are pieces of art and products in their own right. While it is within Jackson's right to modify his art, as a consumer of his product, I have the right to disagree with his modifications. This is assuming there were no mistakes in the transfer and what we are seeing is 100% accurate to his new vision for the film. Last edited by greg_achen; 06-17-2011 at 07:38 PM. Reason: spelling

06-17-2011, 07:35 PM	#3803
petmic10 Active Member Member since:Aug 2008	Kudos to Ken for an awesome review. Very well done. Count me as another person who went to the screening Tuesday night and did not see any cyan/green tint. The mountain scene that has everyone up in arms was white and I especially paid close attention to the "transition scene" and it too was white. I don't know what to think anymore.

06-17-2011, 07:37 PM	#3804
eegah New Member Member since:Jun 2011	Well this review just saved me £55. My order has been cancelled and i'll stick to the dvd's. Some of those screen shots I have seen are just so wrong, reminded me of printing a photo and then when you see the outcome you realise one of your inks has ran out.

06-17-2011, 07:41 PM	#3806
Banned User Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2010 4K collection:135 Blu-ray collection:2388 DVD collection:92 Blu-ray reviews: 5	Well my impression is this is a mistake, but until we know for sure there's no point in arguing if it was intentional or not. Peter Jackson is usually really good about this kind of stuff when it comes to his fanbase. On the off chance it is intentional I'd hate to think I'll have to own the DVD and Bluray of films because they are different. Not a huge fan of altering films after their release. Given Jackson is a huge film fan I would assume he would feel the same way.

06-17-2011, 07:47 PM	#3807
Puonti Active Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2011	Lurked in the thread and read the last 50 pages, looked at the cyan/green-tint screens, felt it was noticeable but not a deal breaker, read the review, didn't cancel my order. Can't wait to watch the whole trilogy in it's HD goodness.

06-17-2011, 07:53 PM	#3811
Benchman Senior Member Member since:Aug 2010 Location:Idaho Home Theater Gallery:9 Blu-ray collection:581 DVD collection:87 Trading Score:1	I hope this drop on black friday. I love these movies but $83 bucks?! Not right now at least

06-17-2011, 07:56 PM	#3816
Strevlac Special Member Member since:Dec 2010 Blu-ray collection:506 DVD collection:207 Blu-ray reviews: 5	My vote for the re-make: Fewer scenes with crying hobbits.

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