The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[Romansh]

http://www.nerdsociety.com/fun-lotr-...ition-release/

All attendees will be winners, as they marvel at the specially created atmosphere, with autographs from celebrities, and themed give-aways, topped off with the choreographed countdown to midnight and the satisfaction of being the first people in the world to get their new Blu-ray copy of The Lord of the Rings™ The Motion Picture Trilogy: Extended Edition.

I do wonder whether this press release warrants short piece of news on the front page though.

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by Brodo Faggins

I wish this thread had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened.

This is funny. ^^

Seriously - as I said, I was hoping for simply a better blu-ray quality transfer that was based off the DVD set that everyone has. I always felt that disc set looked very good for DVD. Blu-ray would have made it truly awesome.

I dont see what the color changes are for or what the benefit is but this is what we got and we can all either buy it or not buy it. EOM.

[Edgar_in_Indy]

Originally Posted by hindd92

Hi!

I'm new here (forums), and I just wanted to confirm an information about the subtitles... on the main page, it shows Portuguese, and also shows "Auto-set by parent"... what does that mean? Anyway

I haven't seen anybody else offer up a plausible explanation, so I'll take a stab at it. Perhaps that means that if you have the audio set to Portuguese, it will automatically provide Portuguese subtitles for the Elvish language anytime there would normally have been English subtitles. It's been a while since I've watched the films but I seem to remember some scenes where the Elvish was subtitled.

Now I can't imagine why in the world they chose to include Portuguese as the only other audio track, but I'm glad they did since my wife's side of the family is from Brazil and I would have been searching for an international version with a Portuguese option. Maybe this will be the version they sell in Brazil and the US, and they'll make a separate Spanish-language version.

[Funkyfish]

Skimming through this thread again reminded me of something but I couldn’t quite put my finger on it, then I remembered



The Acceptance stage is entirely voluntary btw

[nightcrawler]

I've debated cancelling my pre-order, but ultimately decided not to. I'm not a big fan of the colour changes - intentional or not - and some of the (now) underexposed shots are even more worrying. I'm of the opinion this was a technical f&*$-up - why change the colours of only the first film? If it was PJ's intention then he's in for a huge backlash when this finally hits store shelves and the greater public (who don't read forums) see what he has done. If they do a disc replacement program then great. If I have to wait a couple of years for the next edition to come out then so be it. But I'll still buy this one in the mean time and put up with the colour changes. Yeah I know that makes me a sucker and WB & EIV (in the UK) are just hoping that most people see it the way I do. At the end of the day I just want the EE's in HD

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by PGW

I think people should complain MORE... and louder, not just here, but on the other boards and on Amazon. If there's enough publicity about this, and enough potential sales loss, maybe... just maybe the powers-that-screwed-up will recall the thing and fix the problem.

If you don't want to hear it... go read another thread.

Don't eat the green snow!

Agreed. Its the old saying "if you dont ask, you dont get"....staying quiet and just accepting this ugly new coloring is not the answer if you dont like it. If you do like it then there is nothing to worry about and just enjoy the discs.

[ckocher]

Originally Posted by nightcrawler

I've debated cancelling my pre-order, but ultimately decided not to. I'm not a big fan of the colour changes - intentional or not - and some of the (now) underexposed shots are even more worrying. I'm of the opinion this was a technical f&*$-up - why change the colours of only the first film? If it was PJ's intention then he's in for a huge backlash when this finally hits store shelves and the greater public (who don't read forums) see what he has done. If they do a disc replacement program then great. If I have to wait a couple of years for the next edition to come out then so be it. But I'll still buy this one in the mean time and put up with the colour changes. Yeah I know that makes me a sucker and WB & EIV (in the UK) are just hoping that most people see it the way I do. At the end of the day I just want the EE's in HD

Yeah but if the things you mentioned didn't bother reviewers from this site or other sites ( This site gave it a 4.5/5 for video) do you really think the main stream public is going to pick up on it?

I think there is a lot of nit picking going on in this forum. Most casual buyers will see it's director approved and think nothing of any changes they notice.

[Cowboy]

If you don't like the EE's the way they are now then you still have the DVD's!!! Hmm...now where have I heard that before?

[SleeperAgent]

I, for one, like the green actually. FOTR was always the "green" movie. Then TTT was blue, and ROTK was red. Seems right to me.

10 DAYS TO GO!!!!!!!!! (2 weeks though until I have the day off for a marathon)

[bluskinsfan21]

the review on blubrew.com have great comparison shots. For me, I actually think the shots look better. Granted, i'd like the snow to be a bit 'whiter'. But frankly, it gives the movie a more "movie" look. Maybe i'm just trying to convince myself; but, i don't own anything but the theatrical dvds, so i'm stoked!

When it's all said and done, the blue almost brings out more color... It almost seems like when you 'calibrate' your tv and set it in movie mode, and you're like, ohhh, it's not bright white anymore, rather it's on warm2... but in the end, warm2 or 1 actually looks better. I think the movie will look great, just wanted to throw my 2 cents in

[Chrysagon]

I've decided not to buy the EE until I hear an explanation from PJ -- if we get one.

I don't understand the color change for the FOTR, but not TTT or ROTK. People have rationalized that the director has the right to make changes, but it doesn't make sense for Jackson to change the color for one film, and not the others. And doesn't sound like Jackson, who has been the 'purist' (as much as possible) for the interpretation of Tolkien's world. For now, I'll stay with my DVD EE.

[job1138]

Originally Posted by Walter E Kurtz

more detail in the top one

the grass turns into one big white mess in the second pic

i really think people should just drop it now anyway....

that same old saying....'dont like? then dont buy it'......move on

I really think he is trying to paint a darker picture for Lord of the Rings, and so the Hobbit is a more light time in the mythology and LOTR needed to be darker in order to make the Hobbit stand out with its lightness.

[MerrickG]

I hope everyone who is upset enjoys NOT being able to watch it.

I will say that this is probably GOOD for those who are complaining.

Instead of worrying about color timing they can worry about real world issues.

Such as unemployment, cancer research.

Just a thought.

[bluskinsfan21]

Originally Posted by merrick97

I hope everyone who is upset enjoys NOT being able to watch it.

I will say that this is probably GOOD for those who are complaining.

Instead of worrying about color timing they can worry about real world issues.

Such as unemployment, cancer research.

Just a thought.

I don't mind the color issue myself, i'd prefer white snow, but whatever. But on this note, people watch movies and do this whole "bluray enthusiast" thing to release themseves from real world issues. If people have their hobby disrupted by something they have been looking forward to, it's obvious why they'd be up in arms. My stance is that, it just doesn't look that bad...

[The Duke]

Originally Posted by bluskinsfan21

the review on blubrew.com have great comparison shots. For me, I actually think the shots look better. Granted, i'd like the snow to be a bit 'whiter'. But frankly, it gives the movie a more "movie" look. Maybe i'm just trying to convince myself; but, i don't own anything but the theatrical dvds, so i'm stoked!

When it's all said and done, the blue almost brings out more color... It almost seems like when you 'calibrate' your tv and set it in movie mode, and you're like, ohhh, it's not bright white anymore, rather it's on warm2... but in the end, warm2 or 1 actually looks better. I think the movie will look great, just wanted to throw my 2 cents in

Those screenshots of FOTR at blubrew are a great comparison. Most shots reveal the EE has noticeably better depth and greater detail, no doubt due to the new master and no DNR. And in most shots any green/cyan tint is not noticeable. But in a few shots the new color timing has darkened any dark areas, resulting in a loss of detail. That shot of the ridge looking down in the valley is an excellent example. On the tree to the right in the TE you can see details of the tree trunk, in the EE it has been darkened to the extent that most details of the tree trunk are obscured. But that's something 99% of folks aren't going to notice watching the film in motion.

I see no reason not to buy this release. Well, for me, just two reasons - the price, and porting over the exact same 9 DVDs of bonus material I already own in my EE DVDs. I feel kind of burned buying the TEs on release, with mediocre quality and the substantial drop in price with the standalone releases. So I'm going to force myself to be patient this time and wait for the standalone releases of the EE.

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by merrick97

Instead of worrying about color timing they can worry about real world issues.

Such as unemployment, cancer research.

Just a thought.

We have been through this in this thread already. We are complaining within the realm of the hobby, not life in general. We are talking about a problem in a luxury hobby (HT) and we are blessed to have it. In the grand scheme of things, none of this FOTG(B,T, whatever) controversy has any real meaning. In the realm of the hobby it is a very disappointing issue for many of us though.

[Grand Bob]

I have now seen a number of reviews and many screenshots, and I am (unsuccessfully) trying to work out the rationale behind this. You take one of the most popular and profitable movies of all time, based on the most beloved novel of all time - and then recolor it? Isn't this something that a rival or competitor would do as an act of sabotage?

[gstriftos]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

....You take one of the most popular and profitable movies of all time, based on the most beloved novel of all time - and then recolor it? .....

They recoloured Harry Potter?

[Show spoiler]Just trying to relief the tension

[job1138]

My problem with ALL of the complaints is that, its not like there is a RIGHT or Wrong color grade. Its not like the first one you saw was RIGHT out of the camera, it was highly subjective and graded. It was his choice then, and now he has a different perspective and feels this new color grade is more appropriate. We all change. And if you ask for a new master you are going to get changes based on his new perspective.

[mymythos]

You know, there should be a law preventing directors and producers to alter movies. Once a movie is released to the public that should be considered the final edit, and that edit should be always available, if for no other reason, then for historical preservation. There are only two kinds of modifications that I believe most people would find not only acceptable but also welcomed. The first is the correcting of defects, and by defects I mean cases like when a microphone appears on the screen or one scene of Star Trek The Motion Picture where you can see the crane that supports the Enterprise. The other is the removal of visible wires of older films. It would be really nice to watch the original War of The Worlds without seeing the wires of the flying saucers, wouldn't it? By the way, that's what they did with the Superman Collection on Blu-ray, kudos to Warner. Although I personally believe that even those defective scenes could be preserved by using multiple angles with seamless branching.

Other than that, movies should either be left alone or be released on multiple versions, but the original release should always be made available.

As for the The Lord of the Rings issue, I'd like to remind you that when Gladiator was first released a lot of people complained and returned their discs. That prompted the studio to issue a new release. So a re-release of TFOTR is quite possible, however, if most of the people who buy The Lord of the Rings have the same mentality of a large number of Star Wars fans that believe that if the director approved it it's okay, then we'll be stuck with this new version for a very long time, if not forever. It's a good thing that the DVDs, although not in HD, are of good quality so I'll stick with them until, as another reviewer pointed out, Gandalf The Green goes back to being Gandalf The Grey.