The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

And around and around we go...

[jbat31]

What is funny is a film like halloween had its color timing changed on purpose and no one made a super large complain fest out of it. I was one who never liked the halloween changes either, but the blu ray looks so much better than I have ever seen it, so i live with it. If these changes were done on purpose, then I will live with it. It is dumb to go on and on, when reviewers are saying its gorgeous and the green tint is not bad.

[mg428]

When I save the two images to my local drive and zoom in, Saruman's beard for example or other details in his face are more refined, to my eye. You may try the same thing.

As to 1080i, I know that broadcast HD is max. 1080i, and in fact that's precisely the very reason of my question: How come the non-full HD HDTV version is sharper and contains more detail than the EE blu-ray in 1080p??

I don't want to be perceived by the forumites as pixel-peeper or something but if the HDTV is really more refined, then I would like to know how come the lower-res HDTV version is sharper and contains more detail than both the TE and EE?

[philzilla]

Originally Posted by jbat31

What is funny is a film like halloween had its color timing changed on purpose and no one made a super large complain fest out of it. I was one who never liked the halloween changes either, but the blu ray looks so much better than I have ever seen it, so i live with it. If these changes were done on purpose, then I will live with it. It is dumb to go on and on, when reviewers are saying its gorgeous and the green tint is not bad.

you must be new on the interwebs

[WorkShed]

Originally Posted by philzilla

you must be new on the interwebs

Ha! Totally agreed!

[radagast]

Originally Posted by WorkShed

Ha! Totally agreed!

My copy of FOTR is playing now as I write. I am 42 minutes in and so far, the sky is blue, not teal. Gandalf's hat is blue-ish grey, mostly grey.

[EVOLVIST]

Originally Posted by radagast

My copy of FOTR is playing now as I write. I am 42 minutes in and so far, the sky is blue, not teal. Gandalf's hat is blue-ish grey, mostly grey.

Keep reporting in please. Thank you.

[JamesKurtovich]

Originally Posted by radagast

My copy of FOTR is playing now as I write. I am 42 minutes in and so far, the sky is blue, not teal. Gandalf's hat is blue-ish grey, mostly grey.

How does what you're watching compare to the screenshots on the net?

[jbat31]

Originally Posted by philzilla

you must be new on the interwebs

why do you say that? I just happen to think that it is not worth going over and over until people actually see it for themselves, especially when reviewers who we trust say it looks great.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by WorkShed

I do agree with you. I have never seen Taxi Driver during its theatrical run because I was not alive. I only have known it based on DVD releases. In light of this article, I would say that the Blu would accurately represent the theatrical experience, which is what I look for in Blu. I would imagine my initial reaction to Taxi Driver is akin to those who didn't like the restoration of The Godfather.

Great article, by the way!......

Thank you. I especially believe it should be mandatory reading for those who misguidedly think that the colors in the DVD editions of some movies represent the *gold standard*, for that is not always a valid assumption.

[Larkitect]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Thank you. I especially believe it should be mandatory reading for those who misguidedly think that the colors in the DVD editions of some movies represent the *gold standard*, for that is not always a valid assumption.

doesn't DVD stand for Definitive Version Disc?

[greg_achen]

Originally Posted by mikej327

It's funny, the Halloween Blu got rid of the blue tint and it looks more natural and people complained about it. FOTR has a new green tint and people are complaining because it doesn't look natural. Just proof that people love to complain. If anything, the Halloween Blu is considered more of a fix than a mistake.

I know I was hoping, praying even, that there would be an issue in the release of one of my favorite movies of all time just because I love to complain so much. There couldn't possibly be any legitimate reasons to be disappointed with the green tint found in the past 100 or so pages of this discussion. Not one. Brilliant deductive reasoning.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Farid

This thread is going nuclear if Warner Bros. issues a statement saying "we made a mistake, here's how to replace your discs". I hope they do.

I'm not buying Lord of the Rings as long as it looks like it's been shot in the Matrix.

This thread will go nuclear if they come out and say it is intentional. And they will IMHO. Because now with the trailer they show at the official lordofthehrings site also has the green tint and new color adjustment

And now hold on to your hats just found this thread over at imdb. Where someone has seen FOTR at the theaters he is saying it looked exactly as it does on the new EE blu rays. He even said the second breakfast scene also looked like it does on the new blu rays. Because someone asked him about it. And he said it did look like that at the screening

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120737/...&p=1#184663551

Well this is a CLEAR indication on that there was no mistake made on these blu rays. Because as we all know Peter Jackson said at the screening that this is how the movie was intended to look like and looks like on the blu ray as well. Which he even mentioned in his statement.

There will be no replacement program for if this new coloring is intended and based on the new evidence it IS intended by Peter Jackson.

[omicron]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Interesting. Did they make you ‘near’ or ‘far’ sighted with that one cataract surgery in the affected eye and how does that particular factor play with your other (‘natural’) eye?

Also, do you remember the exact name of the IOL which they implanted?

I have been nearsighted for some time so I went with nearsighted. The IOL was from Advanced Medical Optics which is now Abbott Medical Optics. I have a card with some numbers on it that specify the exact lens used. I'm not aware of a product name. It was an aspheric monofocus lens which means my color contrast sensitivity should be very good in my repaired eye.

Having it done made a big positive difference to my quality of life.

[JamesKurtovich]

I wonder why it was just Fellowship then. It looks dark and a bit dull in the green scenes whereas the other two films "pop" with brighter, natural colors.

[chetripley80]

Originally Posted by mredman

This thread will go nuclear if they come out and say it is intentional. And they will IMHO. Because now with the trailer they show at the official lordofthehrings site also has the green tint and new color adjustment

And now hold on to your hats just found this thread over at imdb. Where someone has seen FOTR at the theaters he is saying it looked exactly as it does on the new EE blu rays. He even said the second breakfast scene also looked like it does on the new blu rays. Because someone asked him about it. And he said it did look like that at the screening

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120737/...&p=1#184663551

Well this is a CLEAR indication on that there was no mistake made on these blu rays. Because as we all know Peter Jackson said at the screening that this is how the movie was intended to look like and looks like on the blu ray as well. Which he even mentioned in his statement.

There will be no replacement program for if this new coloring is intended and based on the new evidence it IS intended by Peter Jackson.

You gained all of this factual information from a random person posting subjective information on imdb.com?

[greg_achen]

Originally Posted by mredman

There will be no replacement program for if this new coloring is intended and based on the new evidence it IS intended by Peter Jackson.

What new evidence? There has been conflicting reports ad naueseum about the FotR EE screening with some people claiming there was no green tint and others claiming there was. No one is denying that Peter Jackson didn't implement new color timing. The issue is whether the green tint found indiscriminately throughout the film is intentional. Given how methodical and strategical he was with color grading the film originally, it just seems odd he would slather a thin layer of green throughout the whole picture and not be more selective as seen in the Appendices documentary.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by mredman

This thread will go nuclear if they come out and say it is intentional. And they will IMHO. Because now with the trailer they show at the official lordofthehrings site also has the green tint and new color adjustment

And now hold on to your hats just found this thread over at imdb. Where someone has seen FOTR at the theaters he is saying it looked exactly as it does on the new EE blu rays. He even said the second breakfast scene also looked like it does on the new blu rays. Because someone asked him about it. And he said it did look like that at the screening

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120737/...&p=1#184663551

Well this is a CLEAR indication on that there was no mistake made on these blu rays. Because as we all know Peter Jackson said at the screening that this is how the movie was intended to look like and looks like on the blu ray as well. Which he even mentioned in his statement.

There will be no replacement program for if this new coloring is intended and based on the new evidence it IS intended by Peter Jackson.

So it's settled, it's intentional. So now people have two choices. They can either keep their preorder and enjoy the look of film that PJ say's is the way it's supposed to look, or they can cancel their preorders and do without. The first option is the way to go IMO.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by chetripley80

You gained all of this factual information from a random person posting subjective information on imdb.com?

Yep he clearly states it was like that at the theater as well which means there is no mistake with the transfer on the blu ray. And the trailer they show at the official site does also look exactly like the new EE blu's which also is a pretty strong indication that there is no mistake with the transfer. Because they would not put up a trailer that show these new color adjustments for these so close to release when there is an error on them. it would not make sense to advertise an error

[joenostalgia23]

Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

I wonder why it was just Fellowship then. It looks dark and a bit dull in the green scenes whereas the other two films "pop" with brighter, natural colors.

Fellowship of the Rings needed a remaster. Jackson and his team saw it as a chance to remaster the colors as well. TTT and ROTK already looked fine, so they didn't feel the need and go back to make revisions.

People who've seen the theatrical re-releases and people who've seen the Blu-ray screenshots(or possibly the actual discs themselves) say that they look identical. People who doubt this have not seen the discs in action nor have they seen the theatrical release. Even if theses IMDB people are wrong, that just means that to them, the theatrical re-release and the EE Blu-ray look indistinguishable to their eyes.

I believe that the color change is completely intentional and that Jackson and Lesnie approved it. I'm guessing that text was burnt into the screen and not a lot of time(The Hobbit pre-production) was actually used to redo the colors, but enough for them to fit Jackson and Lesnie's requirements.