The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by radagast

I will get the EE BDs, but I don't know if I have the strength to let go of the DVDs.

I even have all 6 movies on VHS.

I will keep the DVD EE's for the Alan Lee artwork and because the packaging is cool. I didn't know the movies were released on VHS. Well done!

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

And I remember way back in the day when you would have to get up and walk over to the TV to change channels, with PLIERS no less.

One of my fond memories is adjusting the coat hangar that served as the TV antenna to get the best reception.

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

One of my fond memories is adjusting the coat hangar that served as the TV antenna to get the best reception.

lol

Well it wasn't that bad when you had no cable-tv thus a lot less channels to have to surf.

[Tetsuo27]

Originally Posted by aiman04

Again, Criterion's The Thin Red Line has more than 5 hours of 1080p video on one disc. It can been done if handled correctly.

Qft

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

lol

Well it wasn't that bad when you had no cable-tv thus a lot less channels to have to surf.

Total = 4, but there always seemed to be something worth watching.

[Cook]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

Total = 4, but there always seemed to be something worth watching.

Quality over quantity. Today its the exact opposite.

[Monolithium]

Originally Posted by radagast

As another writer said when reviewing these movies - They are great achievements, but not definitive. The definitive version of LOTR has yet to be made.

The definitive version is the original text.

[Andrewtst]

Final Product Description is out at Amazon.

Product Description
All three extended versions in dazzling 1080p and DTS HD-MA 5.1 Audio. Deluxe set includes over 26 Hours of spellbinding behind-the- moviemaking material, including the Rare Costa Botes documentaries, on 15 discs. (6 BD + 9 DVD).

Which means the movie itself same as previous release Extended DVD that split each movie to two disc.

And the 9 DVD is the same extra features where 6 DVD holding the previous release Extended DVD Extra Features + another 3 DVD holiding the Rare Costa Botes documentaries release in Original Theatrical and Extended Limited Edition.

[nathan_393]

Originally Posted by Andrewtst

Final Product Description is out at Amazon.

Product Description
All three extended versions in dazzling 1080p and DTS HD-MA 5.1 Audio. Deluxe set includes over 26 Hours of spellbinding behind-the- moviemaking material, including the Rare Costa Botes documentaries, on 15 discs. (6 BD + 9 DVD).

Which means the movie itself same as previous release Extended DVD that split each movie to two disc.

And the 9 DVD is the same extra features where 6 DVD holding the previous release Extended DVD Extra Features + another 3 DVD holiding the Rare Costa Botes documentaries release in Original Theatrical and Extended Limited Edition.

Sorry if I'm being dumb, but how do we know that's the final description?

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Originally Posted by Monolithium

The definitive version is the original text.

This.

[gregmasciola]

Like others have said, I just can't sell my DVD sets of the EE trilogy. The packaging is just so nice. I think what I may do is just use the DVD packaging for the Blu-Ray set. I figure if I just replace the trays that hold the discs with 2-disc trays, Each one can hold the Blu-Rays, the DVDs and all the bonus discs for each movie. But I won't do anything until we know for sure how many discs there will be.

[R3P0]

Originally Posted by Andrewtst

Final Product Description is out at Amazon.

Product Description
All three extended versions in dazzling 1080p and DTS HD-MA 5.1 Audio. Deluxe set includes over 26 Hours of spellbinding behind-the- moviemaking material, including the Rare Costa Botes documentaries, on 15 discs. (6 BD + 9 DVD).

Which means the movie itself same as previous release Extended DVD that split each movie to two disc.

And the 9 DVD is the same extra features where 6 DVD holding the previous release Extended DVD Extra Features + another 3 DVD holiding the Rare Costa Botes documentaries release in Original Theatrical and Extended Limited Edition.

Where is Warner's Press release showing dumbed down Audio. The EE had 6.1 on DVD Amazon cannot have the final product info before it is even officially released.

Product Details

* Actors: Elijah Wood, Ian McKellen, Sean Bean, Orlando Bloom, Viggo Mortensen
* Directors: Joel Gallen, Michael Pellerin, Peter Jackson
* Writers: Michael Pellerin, Carter Bays, Craig Thomas, Fran Walsh, J.R.R. Tolkien
* Format: Anamorphic, Box set, Closed-captioned, Color, DVD, Widescreen, NTSC
* Language: English (Dolby Digital 2.0 Stereo), English (Dolby Digital 5.1 EX), English (DTS ES 6.1)

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by merrick97

I will point blank say that I dont believe in ANY way that the theatrical cut of Return of the King was his true cut. The scenes with Saruman had no business being cut and their disappearance hurt the film. I think that was a cut he made because he had to trim the run time down. Thats just my opinion.


I am hoping the 15 disc set is accurate considering Amazon that is charging $83. I also hope these transfers are struck from new HD masters, but sadly I expect that is too much to ask since we all know that new post-Hobbit uber editions are coming. As to what they will contain beyond what is already on the 4 disc sets is beyond me.


I have to say that its making me just shake my head in disgust to see the whining coming from people who are complaining about actually having to get off of their lazy pathetic ass to change a damn disc.

Its attitudes like that allows for shows like The Biggest Loser to exist.

I am VERY hopeful that these films get split over two discs to maximize the video quality. If that means having to get off my butt for a minute to change discs.

SO. BE. IT.

Whether you believe it or not, he has publicly stated on several occasions and in interviews that HIS CUTS are the TC's and the EE's are for the fans who actually want to see more. Now if this is just him backing the studio for needing to trim it, believe what you want. I'm just relaying what I have heard come directly from his mouth.

As far as the split thing, I really hope that's not directed at me cuz I'm in the "I don't care as long as its in Glorious HD" group. I don't think it NEEDS to be on 2 discs to avoid PQ sacrifice, but I don't care if it is.

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by nametag

But someone can also connect with a movie because they think it's perfect the way it is, to add more for the sake of it can change your opinion of characters, ruin pacing, have all sorts of different responses. I'm not saying that's necessarily true here, just pointing out that it's a bit sweeping to say whether extended/alternate editions are completely good or bad either way.

What IS bad is pulling a George Lucas and trying to replace an older version with a newer one. At least here we'll have both options. Although if the EEs don't have the originals included via seemless branching it will be annoying that the transfers'll probably be inferior for the TEs

I understand what you mean here, but it is not always true as well. Personally, I think Ridley Scott's final cut of Blade Runner is the definitive version... granted, the Blu-ray DOES have 5 versions of the film (including the workprint) for fans who prefer the original version so Ridley gets mad props and GL keeps rambling about his vision... so I see what you are trying to say

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

I will keep the DVD EE's for the Alan Lee artwork and because the packaging is cool. I didn't know the movies were released on VHS. Well done!

Yes, I am keeping every version of this movie that I own. When I actually get a home theater room its going to be decorated in LotR and Star Wars...

My stepdad has both versions on VHS, TC and EE, people complaining about the EE being on 2 discs... the TC of RotK was on 2 VHS tapes! Be glad those days are gone, crappy video and audio, lack of space... Might pick up the EE on DVD for him some day and try to persuade him into letting go of the VHS, they'd look AWESOME next to my Star Wars VHS tapes!

[Bucky]

Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

I understand what you mean here, but it is not always true as well. Personally, I think Ridley Scott's final cut of Blade Runner is the definitive version... granted, the Blu-ray DOES have 5 versions of the film (including the workprint) for fans who prefer the original version so Ridley gets mad props and GL keeps rambling about his vision... so I see what you are trying to say

I agree with this. It is less the fact that he is making changes to the films and more that he is pretending the original theatrical versions do not exist that gets more people angry i think.

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by Andrewtst

Final Product Description is out at Amazon.

Product Description
All three extended versions in dazzling 1080p and DTS HD-MA 5.1 Audio. Deluxe set includes over 26 Hours of spellbinding behind-the- moviemaking material, including the Rare Costa Botes documentaries, on 15 discs. (6 BD + 9 DVD).

Which means the movie itself same as previous release Extended DVD that split each movie to two disc.

And the 9 DVD is the same extra features where 6 DVD holding the previous release Extended DVD Extra Features + another 3 DVD holiding the Rare Costa Botes documentaries release in Original Theatrical and Extended Limited Edition.

If its coming from Amazon, NOTHING is final. How many times have they put up bad specs for blu ray releases?

Originally Posted by nathan_393

Sorry if I'm being dumb, but how do we know that's the final description?

We dont. This could change. Once we get the official release news from Warner, then we will know "final" specs.

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by Todd Smith

We dont. This could change. Once we get the official release news from Warner, then we will know "final" specs.

I've been saying this for awhile now... but most people see the picture and immediately think its definitive. It MAY be, but nothing is certain as of now.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Bucky

I agree with this. It is less the fact that he is making changes to the films and more that he is pretending the original theatrical versions do not exist that gets more people angry i think.

People get angry for everything in here, so it's not much of a big deal

angry there is two dics and they have to get up to change them
angry there is one disc and the movie PQ will suck
angry the sound is not the way they want it
angry it's too expensive
angry
angry
angry

I sometimes wonder if the entire planet spend their entire day angry? Maybe people should just stop posting so much in forums and go have fun?

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

You guys are missing my point. Of course the theatricals of LOTR are available, and thank **** for that. But I've lost count of the posts on various forums all stating that 'they'd never watch the LOTR theatricals again', 'why did they release them on BD when the true fans just want the EEs' etc etc, while in the adjacent Star Wars threads many of the same people bleat about Lucas NOT giving them the option. Hypocrisy, thy name is fandom.

I think you have missed the real issue. Just because there are various versions of famous movies doesn't make them equivalent. Apparently there are many people who love the original versions of Star Wars 4, 5, and 6, over the remade versions. And apparently there are many people who prefer the Expanded Editions of Lord of the Rings over the theatrical versions. There is nothing hypocritical or inconsistent about that. There is nothing inconsistent about one movie being considered better in its original form and a completely different movie being considered better in an expanded format. In fact, in both cases, a lot of the preference has to do with content. Lucas didn't really need to have Greedo shoot first. The expanded LOTR movies have unique content that fans like.

There are plenty of people who prefer the OT of LOTR. It's just a matter of personal taste for each individual movie, not some OCD issue where a pseron has to ALWAYS like only the original versions of movies or ONLY like later Director's Cuts or Expanded Editions.

Or to put it another way: The Star Wars films and the Lord of the Rings films are individual cases and not related or dependent on each other in any way.