The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[RYJAPE21]

Got this set today from Amazon along with Sucker Punch (been waiting all day for UPS to arrive )

I have not yet watched Fellowship but I absolutely love the packaging. It's both sleek and shiny. The black cases are cool, as others have mentioned, and I love that they included the inserts from the DVDs.

I can't wait to check out the Costa Boates documentaries as I have never seen them before.

[OB1KNBE]

Received my copy from WB today. Cant wait to get started, green or not.

[lkmg]

Originally Posted by RYJAPE21

I can't wait to check out the Costa Boates documentaries as I have never seen them before.

me too. but heard the PQ was not that great.

[TheForce8686]

I am so glad I got one of the fixed non green copies. I am watching it right now and am loving it.

[The Blufather]

Who's deleting posts in this thread?

Not sure what was wrong with suggesting a new thread for people who have actually seen the movie. Looking at copies, screenshots, and YouTube videos doesn't compare to viewing the actual movie.

Said something like that and it got deleted. If you delete, you should at least have the courtesy of messaging the poster explaining why.

[lemonski]

Originally Posted by 42041

post a correct one.

I've my head to a pulp trying to explain why the green would not be evident in normal viewing. But that's what's on the disc.

Then you would come to the conclusion that screenshots are worthless for judging the quality of a disc?

....and therefore any "screenshot scientist" arguments are from here on in are on very shaky ground? (not that I think there was ever much "science" to them)

All one has to do now is point to the "teal snow in LOTR" to cast doubt on any case they might be making.

[Ken Brown]

Originally Posted by retablo

Popped on FOTR and skies look blue to me.

Well, that's where some of the confusion has been stemming from. Some people assume the words "green tint" mean everything will look green. That isn't the case. Pop in any movie in your Blu-ray player, bump the greens up a bit on your display, and you'll still see plenty of blues, reds, yellows, etc. Similarly, bump the greens down on your display while watching FOTR and you'll notice an image that looks much more like its previous releases (in terms of color, not detail).

In FOTR, the majority of the skies are still blue, the fields are still golden, the fires are still red. They're just blues, golds and reds that exhibit a slight green tint. A slight tint doesn't make everything look green -- pure whites are the only obvious victims -- it simply alters the remaining hues ever-so-slightly. Again, when certain factors align, it's more noticeable. Most of the time, though, it isn't as noticeable because the proper factors aren't in place to reveal the tint that is there.

For those who remain distracted, might I humbly suggest setting up a separate calibration on your display with the greens dialed down a bit. It's an imperfect but easy fix, and brings the image more in line with what you're used to. Granted, it doesn't address the contrast issues, but a few more tweaks help a bit in that regard as well. It only takes a few minutes, and will spare you some heartache

[indiansbsa]

Originally Posted by Ken Brown

I also incorporated it into my updated video review of FOTR

Not to go all lawyer here or anything but the statement comments on the HD Mastering Peter saw does not comment on the DISCS THEMSELVES. Peter very well could have seen it correctly in the mastering studio or whatever with a "new color grading", but what about the film as it reportedly appears on the DISCS? I want it from Peter's mouth that "yes Ive seen the discs and the green snow and what not is my artistic intent"

[MerrickG]

Ok, I saw the first half of FotR and just skimmed through the 2nd and it should surprise no one that I could not in ANY WAY be more happier with the video quality than what I saw.

I honestly tried my absolute hardest to see if the green tint would become a distraction and it NEVER did.

Not in the snow. Not in 2nd breakfast. The fight scene that was posted on youtube. It just NEVER got in the way. The screenshot that showed the 2nd breakfast scene could not have been more off. I can't explain it, but that scene looked SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better in motion.

Maybe the way I have my TV calibrated just happened to create the perfect conditions to watch this film, but I seriously could not see the issues and I am willing to bet that anyone who is being completely honest with themselves will not have a problem either.

I have a Sony KDL-55EX710 and with an Oppo BDP-83 and I will be more than happy to share my calibration settings with anyone who is interested, but I just could not see it the way the screenshots were presenting it.

[Ken Brown]

Originally Posted by indiansbsa

Not to go all lawyer here or anything but the statement comments on the HD Mastering Peter saw does not comment on the DISCS THEMSELVES. Peter very well could have seen it correctly in the mastering studio or whatever, but what about the version as it appears on the DISCS?

As I understand how things occurred over the last two weeks, Blu-ray check discs were used in the most recent process. For those who aren't familiar, check discs are identical to retail discs, minus the art pressing, titles, etc that appear on the disc surface. They are created for final quality control, and in some cases for screener distribution, as they contain the exact data/content that the final BD disc will contain.

The statement isn't entirely clear, though, so I'll update things if more information comes to light. Hope that helps clarify!

[flodsby]

Originally Posted by lolarocks

I bought the ring pre odd at best buy and with the extra five dollars off coupon I Would get it for 54.99+ tax. So it seems Better to just get it at best buy and not hassle with my uptight Walmart .

I think you mean you would get it for 64.99 since you put the first $10 down.

[The Blufather]

Originally Posted by merrick97

Ok, I saw the first half of FotR and just skimmed through the 2nd and it should surprise no one that I could not in ANY WAY be more happier with the video quality than what I saw.

I honestly tried my absolute hardest to see if the green tint would become a distraction and it NEVER did.

Not in the snow. Not in 2nd breakfast. The fight scene that was posted on youtube. It just NEVER got in the way. The screenshot that showed the 2nd breakfast scene could not have been more off. I can't explain it, but that scene looked SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better in motion.

Maybe the way I have my TV calibrated just happened to create the perfect conditions to watch this film, but I seriously could not see the issues and I am willing to bet that anyone who is being completely honest with themselves will not have a problem either.

I have a Sony KDL-55EX710 and with an Oppo BDP-83 and I will be more than happy to share my calibration settings with anyone who is interested, but I just could not see it the way the screenshots were presenting it.

Yeah, I'm starting to notice a trend here.

Those who have actually seen it, pretty much like it, green isn't as bad or they don't even notice it much or at all. The skies are blue, the smoke is grey/white on mine.

Those who haven't seen it and are relying on other people's screenshots or YouTube videos, still the ones screaming green.

I went in thinking it was going to be bad because of this thread and I just finished watching it and now I'm glad I bought the movies anyway.

If you're a fan of these movies, you should buy them.

[TheExit148]

Just got mine home, opened and I have two "Part Two" discs for Fellowship of the Ring. I'm in Canada so its the Alliance release. Anyone else in Canada have this issue?

[WorkShed]

Originally Posted by The Blufather

Yeah, I'm starting to notice a trend here.

Those who have actually seen it, pretty much like it, green isn't as bad or they don't even notice it much or at all. The skies are blue, the smoke is grey/white on mine.

Those who haven't seen it and are relying on other people's screenshots or YouTube videos, still the ones screaming green.

I went in thinking it was going to be bad because of this thread and I just finished watching it and now I'm glad I bought the movies anyway.

If you're a fan of these movies, you should buy them.

I have it. The tint IS noticeable. However, I created a User Setting specific for this disc on my TV to tone down the green and up the red a little. Now, it looks fantastic.

Not that the unmodified presentation would be unwatchable. Far from it. But the tint makes the image look just a little muddy for me.

[m_burlock]

To those who are STILL complaining I say: So don't buy this set or the upcoming FOTR EE individual release. Also, realize that no amount of complaining is going to get you what you want. Move on.

[Sean72]

Originally Posted by merrick97

Ok, I saw the first half of FotR and just skimmed through the 2nd and it should surprise no one that I could not in ANY WAY be more happier with the video quality than what I saw.

I honestly tried my absolute hardest to see if the green tint would become a distraction and it NEVER did.

Not in the snow. Not in 2nd breakfast. The fight scene that was posted on youtube. It just NEVER got in the way. The screenshot that showed the 2nd breakfast scene could not have been more off. I can't explain it, but that scene looked SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better in motion.

Maybe the way I have my TV calibrated just happened to create the perfect conditions to watch this film, but I seriously could not see the issues and I am willing to bet that anyone who is being completely honest with themselves will not have a problem either.

I have a Sony KDL-55EX710 and with an Oppo BDP-83 and I will be more than happy to share my calibration settings with anyone who is interested, but I just could not see it the way the screenshots were presenting it.

If you are seeing any difference from the frame grabs and the Blu Rays it's because you are watching on different displays.


Lucky you that you didn't notice it for whatever reason, but it's most certainly there.

Now if PJ would just speak up and tell us all why?

[flodsby]

Originally Posted by HeKS

Hi Bill,

I'm going to respond to the reply you made to my post that this is taken from, but before I do, can you clarify something for me? What are you meaning to say in that statement I've bolded above? Do you mean to suggest that they WERE as careful this time as they were originally, or do you mean to suggest that they WERE NOT as careful this time around?

Take care,
HeKS

[iamsometal]

Watching Fellowship now. The increase in detail is incredible. Finally, a very fine layer of grain is visible! Seriously, every hair, pore, thread, leaf, blade of grass and costume detail just pops of the screen (with no edge enhancement ringing that I can find). There are quite a few scenes, however, in which the teal/cyan/blue push drives me freaking nuts, though. If you're blessed/cursed with a keen sense of accurate, lifelike color, some scenes will really please you, but others will make you wanna tear your hair out.

Like I've said before, I just can't stand teal being unnaturally shoved into every dang movie's color timing, and this one is no exception. I have a feeling The Hobbit's color timing will annoy me just as much as this and other current films like Transformers, Knight and Day, etc.

The slight dimming of certain scenes really didn't bother me at all, though. As far as I can tell, very few dark scenes' detail are swallowed up by the shadows.

As I expected, I have a love/hate relationship with the Fellowship blu-ray, just like do with the Aliens blu-ray.

[Ken Brown]

Originally Posted by The Blufather

Yeah, I'm starting to notice a trend here.

Those who have actually seen it, pretty much like it, green isn't as bad or they don't even notice it much or at all. The skies are blue, the smoke is grey/white on mine.

Those who haven't seen it and are relying on other people's screenshots or YouTube videos, still the ones screaming green.

I went in thinking it was going to be bad because of this thread and I just finished watching it and now I'm glad I bought the movies anyway.

If you're a fan of these movies, you should buy them.

Keep in mind too that if your display features a color setting along the lines of "Warm2, Warm1, Natural, Cool, Etc," natural and cool options will minimize the green tint and will make blues bluer and whites whiter. A lot of people prefer a cooler picture, so their TVs will already be set to minimize the green tint.

I think the trend is that viewing environments, individual displays and calibrations all contribute to one's ability to perceive or overlook the tint. If you don't perceive the tint, and are capable of taking a properly calibrated screenshot, I would recommend doing so. I think many of you would be as surprised as we reviewers as to how different it looks in accurate screenshots and how it looks in properly calibrated motion. The tint is still there in motion, it just isn't as distracting as it is in static shots. (Barring a few scenes in which it is more noticeable.)

[Ken Brown]

Originally Posted by WorkShed

I have it. The tint IS noticeable. However, I created a User Setting specific for this disc on my TV to tone down the green and up the red a little. Now, it looks fantastic.

Not that the unmodified presentation would be unwatchable. Far from it. But the tint makes the image look just a little muddy for me.

I definitely suggest others who are bothered by the tint try this as well. I can verify it does make quite a difference. It also makes it easier to spot some of the region-specific color-grading adjustments Jackson made, especially in Rivendell