The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by AintNoSin

The point of Blu-ray was higher quality video and sound. And there is still a physical limit on the amount of hi-def video and audio you can squeeze onto one 50GB disk before quality suffers.

Look at the backlash WB is getting from Gettysburg and Gods and Generals... Makes me glad they stuck with 2 discs for this release...

[AintNoSin]

Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

Look at the backlash WB is getting from Gettysburg and Gods and Generals... Makes me glad they stuck with 2 discs for this release...

No kidding. Gettysburg has its fans but if they had screwed up the transfers of LOTR like that, there would have been rioting. Just look at the kerfuffle over the non-existent so-called "green tint debacle."

[TheOperaGhost]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

There would still be people coming and complaint that half way in there was a small, tiny little color shift or that the sound in one scene was not exactly as they remember when they saw it in theater once back in December 2001 and that these little things have now ruined the movies for them and they will never be able to watch them again and that it's made it impossible for them to have children and that a curse should be place on Peter Jackson, the restore team, WB, God, the Universe for what was done to them.

Drama queens will always be found and available on the good old Internet

Acknowledging green snow and Legolas the color of a Teletubby is not histrionics, it's pointing out facts. That many find it displeasing is understandable. That some defend that color choice/error obnoxiously and doggedly is unsurprising -- remember PentonMan's ridiculous defense of The Last of the Mohicans? -- but it is indefensible.

One can say that they like the change, but they cannot say honestly that no change has occurred or that it is "natural."

[greg_achen]

Originally Posted by AintNoSin

No kidding. Gettysburg has its fans but if they had screwed up the transfers of LOTR like that, there would have been rioting. Just look at the kerfuffle over the non-existent so-called "green tint debacle."

Ironically, I think it's comments like these that prevent the debate from going away and incite more bickering. It is irrefutable that the green tint is there. Whether you notice it or it bothers you is a different matter all together. As has been stated numerous times throughout this thread, a green tint wouldn't make everything appear green, but simply affect all the hues presently in the film.

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by AintNoSin

No kidding. Gettysburg has its fans but if they had screwed up the transfers of LOTR like that, there would have been rioting. Just look at the kerfuffle over the non-existent so-called "green tint debacle."

I still think that they could fit all three of them on a single disc... and they would look fine to me, on my 32" 720p TV that most of my movies get watched on, but you snag someone here *cough* Fors* *cough* who has a pretty wicked home theater... yeah its gonna be noticeable...

[Fors*]

Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

I still think that they could fit all three of them on a single disc... and they would look fine to me, on my 32" 720p TV that most of my movies get watched on, but you snag someone here *cough* Fors* *cough* who has a pretty wicked home theater... yeah its gonna be noticeable...

Thanks!! I appreciate the "plug" and compliment.

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by Fors*

Thanks!! I appreciate the "plug" and compliment.

sure thing, there a few home theater galleries that I find myself journeying to about once a week since I don't have one, I have to live vicariously through others

[MerrickG]

Originally Posted by Farid

Thanks for the replies, merrick97 and Hobbun!

I have unfortunately not had the opportunity to check the discs for myself, I cancelled due to the controversy and me disliking all the pictures and videoes I've seen so far. I will however stand corrected IF it turns out not to be the case. I'm not saying whites are green, blue is green, red is green. Everything has a different hue that changes the original color palette of the film and this is where things get sketchy.

I will order it when the price of the UK set falls and give an additional subjective analysis of the picture. Thanks.

There is no harm in renting, but I really and I stress really believe that you will be pleasantly surprised. Just sit back and watch the film. Don't seek to find bad color. Let it find you.

[kefrank]

Originally Posted by Mr. Joshua

Can't wait to triple dip when each movie is on one disc instead of two discs. Wasn't that the whole point of blu-ray afterall?

No, that wasn't the whole point and I don't understand why you or anyone else ever thought that. A Blu-ray disc can hold about the same amount of 1080p content as a DVD can hold of 480i content at their respective average bitrates. The whole point of Blu-ray was high-definition video and high-resolution audio.

[karlosfunkster]

Originally Posted by karlosfunkster

Most of the film is not greenish/cyan in tint to such a harsh degree apart from Key Scenes - now that I've had the chance to watch it. The film looks AMAZING! It's definitely NOT a technical error to my eyes. Those who have been saying that it's awash all over are plain wrong. It looks better to my eyes than the theatrical that I have and is a MAJOR improvement.

If you're sitting on the fence I would say "Do not hesitate to buy it", based on this colour debate. No one, other than the most troll-like persons with nothing better to do than worry about something most haven't even watched on their home sets yet, will be concerned.

5 stars for the video presentation from me. (and yes the snow is green/cyan - but it sets the mood - bright moods tend to be much more golden).


.... it's a beautiful and vibrantly coloured release which makes perfect sense - different colour settings for different tones of the film.


...I didn't see the cinema release so can't comment, but I thought the picture and coloration on the blu ray looked stunning?

Just for fun I've posted my original comments on the film last week. Re-reading some of the responses I feel quite villified. I was getting a real roasting from lot's of people!!!

I thinkl it's time we all kissed and made up! (or at least a group )

Come on, waddya say?

[radagast]

Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

I still think that they could fit all three of them on a single disc... and they would look fine to me, on my 32" 720p TV that most of my movies get watched on, but you snag someone here *cough* Fors* *cough* who has a pretty wicked home theater... yeah its gonna be noticeable...

10 or 11 hours on one BD? Maybe if you had a 6-layer Blu-ray disc.

[jerzdawg]

Since I cannot contribute to the viewing reviews I would just like to add that Borders.com sux. My fedex tracking still shows "Shipment information sent to FedEx. Please check back later for shipment status or subscribe for e-mail notifications." Why I knew it was a risk ordering from them the $65 price tag was the best option at that time. Would have gladly paid the extra $5 to get on release day through Amazon....

[MerrickG]

Originally Posted by LOTR07

Which OPPO.....83 or 93....i did not have any playback issues with my 93

Oppo BDP-83

I sent them an email and their response was:

Discs not loading properly are due to the firmware being out of date and the Persistent Storage becoming corrupt. Download and install the 55-0226 Firmware installed (http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-8...e-55-0226.aspx).

Perform an Erase BD-Video Data (Device Setup->Persistent Storage) and disable BD-Live (Network Setup).

Turn off the player then turn it back on.

All current and future discs should now load properly.

We have seen some cases with Warner Brothers releases that loading another release from the same company during the same power cycle can cause these kind of loading errors.

Please try power cycling the player between discs and see if the same errors occur.

Which tells me they didn't completely read my email since I already stated I had the latest firmware.

I don't know. I feel that I should not have to erase my persistent storage to get something to work right. If anyone has further comments send them via PM since this is not the thread to do so.

[Scooter1836]

Originally Posted by radagast

It comes out in September. A few weeks before that, we should be hearing from the people who support piracy by downloading it ahead of time and applying their studio quality software tools to it.

Yeah people downloading itfrom an unknown source based on an unknown image that could have been altered by an unknow process so they can put tools to it and find ways to complain without having complete facts.

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by radagast

10 or 11 hours on one BD? Maybe if you had a 6-layer Blu-ray disc.

sorry, I meant on a single disc each... my bad

[MerrickG]

Originally Posted by radagast

10 or 11 hours on one BD? Maybe if you had a 6-layer Blu-ray disc.

If its HD-Lite (ala like the HD videos from xbox Live) they certainly could have easily fit all the films on one disc. Probably even on a BD25

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by merrick97

Go through this thread and you will see that people have been OVERWHELMINGLY pleased with the transfer of FotR video quality. Seriously, the ratio to those happy to those unhappy is so heavily in favor of the happy that I am almost ready to call it a no brainer. Even some of the most vocal critics of the change have come out and said its breathtaking.

I am not prepared to say you will find it perfect, but I am ready to say that you should buy it. I can almost promise you won't be disappointed if you just sit down and watch the film and let it suck you and not get caught in trying to compare pure whites.

Nobody told me that this film would suck me......in that case, I am just going to say this is the best blu release to date and one of the best bargains I have ever experienced. In light of this new info, the green issue is not even a thought to me at this point........Leaving work now to get my copy...............

Not sure how my gf will react to this though!

[HeKS]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

Frankly, I believe it would be advisable to have two threads for a movie: One for subjective evaluation and discussion and another for technical evaluation and discussion. This would keep the bristling responses to a minimum and lead to a more constructive interchange of information for like-minded members. We all deserve to be heard and respected.

This thread has been picking up new members at a rapid pace. It's my guess that even more people would join if a split thread were available.

That's a pretty decent idea. Then the people in the subjective thread could say, "I don't see any tint; everything is amazing," and the people in the objective thread could say, "the tint seems to have been achieved like this and affects the colors to this degree."

HeKS

[AintNoSin]

Originally Posted by greg_achen

It is irrefutable that the green tint is there. Whether you notice it or it bothers you is a different matter all together.

I think whether or not it bothers someone says more about the person watching. Based on my impressions of the disc in my possession, for someone to be bothered by the color grading of FOTR, they would have to viewing the image hyper-critically, looking for flaws, and not simply watching the film and enjoying what is a high-quality presentation.

[gridbug]

Originally Posted by lkmg

someone at the amazon review site mentioned that he had received the wrong disc. did anyone of you have received wrong disc too?

Yes. Got two "Part One" discs for Fellowship from Best Buy (preorder). Going back today to switch it out for another set. Curious to know if this happened to anyone else too...