The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[Pirate King]

Originally Posted by Riches

This has been my experience as well. Now, i'm not wanting to get involved in the whole 'green tint' war. All I can say is, in my opinion, while obviously there has been colour adjustment made, FOTR looks fantastic. The picture is very rich and much more film-like than the previous releases. My snows are WHITE, my skies are BLUE... Maybe it's just my personal copy of the BRD :-) but no one has painted my movie green.

I can't help but wonder if people have their colours set far too high? I turned mine up to an unreasonable level, and, lo and behold... a green hue! But if I do this with my Harry Potter BRDs I get too much blue, etc...

I've always kept my colour settings at a moderate level so they remain realistic and not overly bright, but I can't say how other people may have their set-ups calibrated.

I noticed you are a new member. Welcome to Blu-ray.com. I know there are those who may think you and I are color blind..... but I agree with your post... the PQ on FOTR is outstanding. The color is amazing. This is a quality release.

[griezzel]

Originally Posted by Cinemaddict

I am shocked to hear Warner Bros announce that this green tint is intentional. Could PJ really have said "please make the Fellowship titles green, but leave the others alone"? I am baffled. Could he really have done something that strange and random?

"The intended look"? Intended by who? I guess it should be obvious they're talking about PJ, but why can't they say that? With all this controversy, they should be specific. Furthermore, I would like an explanation for why the green tint was not seen in theaters.

I can understand why the fans who believed from the beginning it was intentional would say "what more do you want? you'll never believe it, will you?" But I can't help it. I have to much respect for PJ to believe he would do something so random and silly. I will need to see PJ himself say "Yes, I wanted the entire film tinted green...including the Fellowship title and credits." Only then will I conclude that he has been drinking, and concede the Blu-ray reflects his bizarre intentions.

Right there with ya!

It occurred to me today, given that new PR blurb about the color, that perhaps the studio applied the blanket tint after Jackson and Lesnie did the retiming, possibly against their wishes, or without their knowledge. Since Jackson doesn't actually own the product, he might be legally (ethically?) prevented from commenting now. It would explain his silence.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by frogmort

I did some critical viewing last night on my friends copy of FOTR. I think I'm going to go watch my copy and try to forget all of this stuff, and just enjoy the movie.

That's a dynamite plan dude!

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by frogmort

After watching a friend's copy of FOTR last night, I do admit it is the best it has ever looked. I went out and bought it today. After selling my TE BDs and putting that money towards the EE, plus a $5 off coupon, I only spent $46 out of pocket.

The 'Short Cut To Mushrooms' scene where they hide under the tree from the Ringwraith is absolutely gorgeous, and the whole movie has much more detail and depth than I've ever seen in this movie.

As relieved as I am that it doesn't look nearly as bad as some of the screenshots led me to believe, I still think that the contrast is a bit too high in some scenes, and there is still a consistent mild cyan hue to the whole of FOTR.

I am very happy with what it looks like, but I still think it could look a little better if they adjusted the contrast and removed the overall cyan hue. I am still holding out hope for a disc replacement program to correct this, but if they don't, I am still pretty happy with it.

Another thing that kind of surprised me is that I have to turn the volume up about three or four notches higher to get it to the same level as the TE BD. Once I do turn it up a little, it sounds absolutely amazing! It's just a little odd that it is mixed a tiny bit lower than the TE.

Glad to hear the overall reaction seems to be positive. I may find out tomorrow, as the preorder I put in to Borders about a month ago may finally get to my house tomorrow.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

Glad to hear the overall reaction seems to be positive. I may find out tomorrow, as the preorder I put in to Borders about a month ago may finally get to my house tomorrow.

Awww man, if anyone deserved to have this set on release ray it is you Bob. You must be chopping at the bit.

[Cook]

I dont use digital copies so i am giving my codes away. Just send me a P.M. if anyones interested in them.

[griezzel]

Originally Posted by Maggot

WRONG. Sure there was a push to those colors, but people enjoy seeing warmth and those colors covey that. Green or teal or whatever you choose to call it, I'm sorry to say, doesn't do that. As seen in those ZonaDVD screens, the life has just got sucked out of the movie. Even a few who are going to get the set have said characters in the movie look a little on the sick side. There are even those who have said they'd buy the set, but if there was a replacement disc they'd get it as a matter of preference alone. The color timing has stripped this film of life. You just can't look at the screenshots and not be horrified. The film had a luster to it, a brilliance that is now sadly gone. If it's a mistake so be it, if it's Jackson's intent then he must be practicing without a license OR he's a vampire that just sucked the blood out and left us with a sickly patient of a film.

Please, let's be clear. Applying a blanket tint of transparent green to the entire film uniformly is not the same as the new color re-timing. It's evident there are many instances of scene specific color re-timing that is apart from the blanket tint.

[can man]

Originally Posted by griezzel

Right there with ya!

It occurred to me today, given that new PR blurb about the color, that perhaps the studio applied the blanket tint after Jackson and Lesnie did the retiming, possibly against their wishes, or without their knowledge. Since Jackson doesn't actually own the product, he might be legally (ethically?) prevented from commenting now. It would explain his silence.

Very, verrrrry doubtful.

[greg_achen]

Originally Posted by frogmort

I did some critical viewing last night on my friends copy of FOTR. I think I'm going to go watch my copy and try to forget all of this stuff, and just enjoy the movie.

+1

Green tint or no green tint, one thing most everyone can agree on is how great these movies are. If people didn't love these films so much, I don't think we would have seen the level of passionate debate as what happened here over the last few weeks.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by griezzel

Right there with ya!

It occurred to me today, given that new PR blurb about the color, that perhaps the studio applied the blanket tint after Jackson and Lesnie did the retiming, possibly against their wishes, or without their knowledge. Since Jackson doesn't actually own the product, he might be legally (ethically?) prevented from commenting now. It would explain his silence.

I highly doubt they would go against his intention. He knows what he's doing and WB is well aware of that.

[BluRayFiend]

im watching the first one right now let me tell
you 5 star pq an aq people are too critical my
only complaint would be that its on 2 discs even
that's minor for big fans of these films. just my 2 cents
on to star wars an jurassic park an indy!!!!!!!!

[DaViD Boulet]

Originally Posted by Yojimbo68

I actually have kept up with this thread and it sounds like after a lot of talk and debate everyone just "excepted" the green tint. I know this was a highly desired title and I think the idea of not buying it for some was too much. Like it or not IT IS REVISIONIST, just like THE FRENCH CONNECTION Blu-Ray.

do you mean "accepted"?

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

Awww man, if anyone deserved to have this set on release ray it is you Bob. You must be chopping at the bit.

When I checked the mailbox and found it empty again today, I considered sitting on the front porch and crying. The only answer I have for this delay is ... karma. In the meantime, smoking is looking more attractive as a hobby.

[Toasterlad]

Originally Posted by jbat31

such a shame, these are so much better. Even if you dont like the green tint issue, the super increase in detail should be worth it.

If it gets cheap enough, I'll pick it up, assuming they don't release a corrected version between now and then (which I don't expect them to do). I just can't see paying $70 for something that feels like a mistake to me. I believe that others are having no problem with the tint, but I will not be able to stop looking for it, now that I know it's there, and it will interfere with my enjoyment of the movie. If Netflix has it at some point, I'll check it out, but I doubt very much if I'll be able to get past the tint issue for enough of the movie to make it worth my while.

Amazing as the clarity of the blu-ray no doubt is, I'm okay with my DVDs that are less sharp but have white snow, at least for now.

[griezzel]

Originally Posted by amoergosum

LOL @ mrpink134
Seriously? ...you need to have that quote in your signature?...in bold letters?
You're on a mission, eh...

must be a WB shareholder

[jbat31]

Originally Posted by Toasterlad

If it gets cheap enough, I'll pick it up, assuming they don't release a corrected version between now and then (which I don't expect them to do). I just can't see paying $70 for something that feels like a mistake to me. I believe that others are having no problem with the tint, but I will not be able to stop looking for it, now that I know it's there, and it will interfere with my enjoyment of the movie. If Netflix has it at some point, I'll check it out, but I doubt very much if I'll be able to get past the tint issue for enough of the movie to make it worth my while.

Amazing as the clarity of the blu-ray no doubt is, I'm okay with my DVDs that are less sharp but have white snow, at least for now.

according to everyone, snow is white, sky is blue, just different shades. Trust me, as someone who has had to pick out paint with the wife, colors come in all shades

[lkmg]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

When I checked the mailbox and found it empty again today, I considered sitting on the front porch and crying.

don't cry, it is just a blu ray movie... but i normally will hide in my room if my blu ray do not arrive after days and days of waiting... just joking...

[Lavoie-Qc]

After watching some scenes my main complain so far is that FOTR is now darker , less vribrant warm and natural, and yes sometimes we loose some details. I would have prefered the old vibrant and clear colors. Finally its not as bad as I feared to expect after reading and following for 2 weeks all about the remastering and the forums (mainly concerning the green tint), but still this copy is not perfect (in the continuity, etc) as the release that was the DVDs EE back.

So for the price its ok but I hope they will go back to the old transfer for the next release of FOTR. LOTR are the only movies im ready to double and triple dip as many as necessary, they are for me more than movies and masterpiece is just not enough to describe them, so its normal that I expect from them not less than perfection. Perfection that have already been reached once back then when the DVDs EE came out.

[Duffy12]

Ok, I just watched some of the FotR EE and I found that the coloring issue did not turn out to be that big of a problem for me. (Whew, relief)



However there is another problem which really bothered me big time, and that was the boosted contrast. In the darker scenes, quite a bit of the detail is lost.

This really shows up badly during some of the Moria sequences, such as the very beginning of it when the camera pulls back from the company to reveal Moria in all it's awesome glory with winding passageways and bridges over chasms! Well that is now GONE! Now as the camera pulls back, it is just a big black dark blob with very little definition. This goes on for a while during their passage and escape on the stairs before they get to the bridge.

So it appears that this film suffers the same problem that A L I E N has with crushed blacks, as in a similar scene from that film when Kane is lowered into the alien ship's hold, the boosted contrast in that scene also effectively REMOVES the 'mat painting' of the rear of the hold.


I can handle the slight color changes here, but the disappearance of scenes through crushing blacks, appears to be some sort of new trend, along with adding TEAL to films that never had it in the first place!


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[griezzel]

Originally Posted by HeKS

Yeah, not so much. I feel like a significant amount of detail that has been reclaimed by the remastering process and lack of DNR has then been lost again by the strong green cast and the super-boosted contrast.

Granted, the detail in the image, where it has NOT been lost, is far superior to the TE blu-ray of FOTR, but much of the detail that was apparent in the darker areas of the TE blu-ray image are now gone entirely from the EE version.

Perhaps the shadow detail is still there, given the high-resolution and bitrate. Most of the "fixes" I've seen applied (to about a dozen scenes, including "Second Breakfast" and "Scarecrow at Shire's Edge") seem to restore detail and proper contrast.