The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[Velmeran]

Originally Posted by CRD13NYC

So since I'm sitting at home with my leg in a cast and nothing better to do I've just started my second viewing of the EE Blu's
This time with the cast (no pun intended) commentary on.

Someone* needs to send you a copy of the book; that should help pass some time

* Radagast, I'm looking at you here, I know how many spare copies you have :P

[WorkShed]

I am honestly guessing that once the current inventory runs out, WBHV will switch out Fellowship. I can see the same thing happening for Fellowship as what happened with Gladiator. It is so different than TTT that it cannot be intentional. WBHV can say what they want. They have discs to sell. I won't believe it unless I hear it from Jackson and Lesnie and they comment on the tint and contrast specifically.

[CRD13NYC]

Originally Posted by Velmeran

Someone* needs to send you a copy of the book; that should help pass some time

* Radagast, I'm looking at you here, I know how many spare copies you have :P

I'm currently reading "Game of Thrones" and subsequently the rest of "A Song of Ice and Fire". So I'm good on reading material for a while

[Ken Brown]

Quick question. If every time Frodo tosses on the One Ring, Sauron's eye sees him and scares him half to death, why is Bilbo so calm after slipping off the ring at the beginning of FOTR? Why doesn't he see the eye? Is it as simple as the Ringwraiths haven't been released yet, so Sauron isn't actively trying to find a Baggins wearing a ring? Maybe I'm just missing something. I'm surprised I haven't thought of it before.

I understand how the worn ring could be less menacing in 'The Hobbit' based on the text alone and Sauron's state of existence at that time. But in the world and timeline of Jackson's LOTR movie adaptations, I hadn't heard anyone talk about the differences between Bilbo and Frodo's experiences while wearing the ring. Thanks!

(Granted, it isn't as distracting as a recent Star Wars: Episode IV revelation I stumbled across. Don't click the spoiler tag unless you want to never see a key 'New Hope' scene the same way again.

[Show spoiler]Luke, distraught that Obi Wan has been killed, mopes around the Falcon. Keep in mind he barely knew Obi Wan. Leia consoles Luke and tends to him in his grief; the same Leia who just lost her entire world and everyone she ever knew and loved as a child. Um... shouldn't she be the one moping around the Falcon? Shouldn't everyone be tending to the victim of planetary genocide?

)

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by Ken Brown

Quick question. If every time Frodo tosses on the One Ring, Sauron's eye sees him and scares him half to death, why is Bilbo so calm after slipping off the ring at the beginning of FOTR? Why doesn't he see the eye? Is it as simple as the Ringwraiths haven't been released yet, so Sauron isn't actively trying to find a Baggins wearing a ring? Maybe I'm just missing something. I'm surprised I haven't thought of it before.

I understand how the worn ring could be less menacing in 'The Hobbit' based on the text alone and Sauron's state at that time. But in the world and timeline of Jackson's LOTR movie adaptations, I hadn't heard anyone talk about the differences between Bilbo and Frodo's experiences while wearing the ring. Thanks!

(Granted, it isn't as distracting as a recent Star Wars: Episode IV revelation I stumbled across. Don't click the spoiler tag unless you want to never see a key 'New Hope' scene the same way again.

[Show spoiler]Luke, distraught that Obi Wan has been killed, mopes around the Falcon. Keep in mind he barely knew Obi Wan at this point. Leia consoles him and tends to him in his grief; the same Leia who just lost her entire world and everyone she ever knew and loved as a child. Um... shouldn't she be the one moping around the Falcon? Shouldn't everyone be tending to the victim of planetary genocide?

)

That was one thing that wasn't changed from the books, and in the books 17 years pass between Bilbo leaving and Frodo leaving, so at that time, Sauron was not "actively" pursuing the ring... that's how I thought of it anyway.

could also be that Frodo knew how evil the ring was... Bilbo was always in the dark, was never made aware of its evil

[Velmeran]

Originally Posted by CRD13NYC

I'm currently reading "Game of Thrones" and subsequently the rest of "A Song of Ice and Fire". So I'm good on reading material for a while

The rate GRRM writes/publishes you'll be good for years :P

Hopefully GRRM gets The Winds of Winter out signifantly sooner than he got A Dance with Dragons out; I think I'll re-read the series and pick up Dragons once Winds is out; couldn't take the delays

[Falcon Eddie]

Originally Posted by bam777

The people involved in shipping over there should be kicked in the family jewels.

Indubitably, let us tell them to "come and get one in the ol' yarbles, if ya' got any yarbles!"

[Ken Brown]

Originally Posted by Velmeran

The rate GRRM writes/publishes you'll be good for years :P

Definitely

Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

That was one thing that wasn't changed from the books, and in the books 17 years pass between Bilbo leaving and Frodo leaving, so at that time, Sauron was not "actively" pursuing the ring... that's how I thought of it anyway.

Hm. I was under the impression that Jackson had scrapped the idea of the 17-year spread to speed up the pace of the movie. When I watch it, it feels like a week has passed at most.

Ah well. It certainly doesn't ruin the movie

[CRD13NYC]

Not to beat a dead horse but the cast commentary on FOTR specifically talks about the color timing and how much time was spent on deciding "how green the shire should look". Obviously this was recorded years ago but still interesting when pertaining to current events or (non-events )

(While I do see a subtle difference in the tint it doesn't ruin the experience at all for me. Definitely darker overall but colors are as they should be. I still see flesh tones etc.)

[WorkShed]

Originally Posted by Ken Brown

Quick question. If every time Frodo tosses on the One Ring, Sauron's eye sees him and scares him half to death, why is Bilbo so calm after slipping off the ring at the beginning of FOTR? Why doesn't he see the eye? Is it as simple as the Ringwraiths haven't been released yet, so Sauron isn't actively trying to find a Baggins wearing a ring? Maybe I'm just missing something. I'm surprised I haven't thought of it before.

I understand how the worn ring could be less menacing in 'The Hobbit' based on the text alone and Sauron's state of existence at that time. But in the world and timeline of Jackson's LOTR movie adaptations, I hadn't heard anyone talk about the differences between Bilbo and Frodo's experiences while wearing the ring. Thanks!

(Granted, it isn't as distracting as a recent Star Wars: Episode IV revelation I stumbled across. Don't click the spoiler tag unless you want to never see a key 'New Hope' scene the same way again.

[Show spoiler]Luke, distraught that Obi Wan has been killed, mopes around the Falcon. Keep in mind he barely knew Obi Wan. Leia consoles Luke and tends to him in his grief; the same Leia who just lost her entire world and everyone she ever knew and loved as a child. Um... shouldn't she be the one moping around the Falcon? Shouldn't everyone be tending to the victim of planetary genocide?

)

I actually thought the exact same thing about Bilbo when I was watching it just now, wondering why I didn't think of it before. Maybe they'll explain it in the second Hobbit film. Also, you'd think Sauron would have gone after Gollum once in those 500 years he had the ring. Who knows? I was too busy wondering why the eagles wouldn't give the fellowship a ride to Mount Doom...

I totally agree about the experiences wearing the ring. I'm guessing Bilbo never saw what Frodo saw. If I saw a fiery dragon's eye coming at me every time I put the ring on, I would have nightmares and would bury the cursed thing!

[Velmeran]

Originally Posted by Ken Brown

Hm. I was under the impression that Jackson had scrapped the idea of the 17-year spread to speed up the pace of the movie. When I watch it, it feels like a week has passed at most.

Ah well. It certainly doesn't ruin the movie

Jackson did scrap the 17-year gap, and for a movie it works.

Much better sense of urgency to the matter at hand when it feels like a week, compared to 17-years.

The fact that Bilbo doesn't see the eye when he uses the Ring to slip away, given PJ's timeline, is something they probably never thought about.

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by Ken Brown

Definitely



Hm. I was under the impression that Jackson had scrapped the idea of the 17-year spread to speed up the pace of the movie. When I watch it, it feels like a week has passed at most.

Ah well. It certainly doesn't ruin the movie

He did scrap that idea, but that was more of the reason why Bilbo didn't feel the effects in the books... that's what I meant to say, sorry for the confusion Ken

Originally Posted by Velmeran

Jackson did scrap the 17-year gap, and for a movie it works.

Much better sense of urgency in to the matter at hand when it feels like a week, compared to 17-years.

The fact that Bilbo doesn't see the eye when he uses the Ring to slip away, given PJ's timeline, is something they probably never thought about.

BINGO!!! This is exactly what I was trying to say!

[WorkShed]

Originally Posted by Ken Brown

Hm. I was under the impression that Jackson had scrapped the idea of the 17-year spread to speed up the pace of the movie. When I watch it, it feels like a week has passed at most.

Ah well. It certainly doesn't ruin the movie

Considering Gandolf leaves The Shire and heads to Minas Tirith, it would take about as long as it took the Fellowship to get there, assuming he didn't take the eagle taxi. He may have even stayed at The Prancing Pony on his way there, which the Inn Keeper said he hadn't seen Gandolf in over six months. So, I'm guessing there was a six month period between Bilbo leaving and Gandolf returning to The Shire.

[Cook]

Originally Posted by Ken Brown

Definitely



Hm. I was under the impression that Jackson had scrapped the idea of the 17-year spread to speed up the pace of the movie. When I watch it, it feels like a week has passed at most.

Ah well. It certainly doesn't ruin the movie

He did scrap the 17 year time lapse. Its just never explained why Bilbo doesnt see the eye. However, if you read the books you know why he doesnt see the eye. Its just one of those things that gets somewhat lost in an adaption.

[Velmeran]

Originally Posted by WorkShed

I actually thought the exact same thing about Bilbo when I was watching it just now, wondering why I didn't think of it before. Maybe they'll explain it in the second Hobbit film. Also, you'd think Sauron would have gone after Gollum once in those 500 years he had the ring. Who knows? I was too busy wondering why the eagles wouldn't give the fellowship a ride to Mount Doom...

I totally agree about the experiences wearing the ring. I'm guessing Bilbo never saw what Frodo saw. If I saw a fiery dragon's eye coming at me every time I put the ring on, I would have nightmares and would bury the cursed thing!

When Gollum had the ring, Sauron was in a weaker state

[Show spoiler]hiding out in Mirkwood as the Necromancer. Though Sauron was beginning to gain more strength during the events of the Hobbit, which is why the Ring leaves Gollum.

(Spoilers for those not familiar with the Hobbit)

As for the Eagles and why they didn't just fly Frodo to Mt. Doom? Eagles were made for carrying over extending periods (they were fine for short distances); in addition the Nazgûl had fell beasts that they could have controlled the air around Mordor. I'm sure there are other reason (in addition to totally cheapening the entire journey and story) why the eagles couldn't have just flown there, but those are a few solid ones.

[MerrickG]

Originally Posted by WorkShed

I am honestly guessing that once the current inventory runs out, WBHV will switch out Fellowship. I can see the same thing happening for Fellowship as what happened with Gladiator. It is so different than TTT that it cannot be intentional. WBHV can say what they want. They have discs to sell. I won't believe it unless I hear it from Jackson and Lesnie and they comment on the tint and contrast specifically.

With all due respect do you really believe that?

Right now the amount of people unsatisfied are very clearly in the minority and now the actual discs have gotten into people's hands most of the remarks have been extremely positive with very few legitimate complaints about the color timing and I stress legitimate. Knowing that I cant possibly see how Warner could be convinced to revert back to the old colors. Not to mention that most "professional" reviews have been positive as well. Not all, but most.

Im not one to tell you what to think, but I think expecting their to be a disc exchange is a lost cause.

Such was not the case with Gladiator when there was a massive and pretty unanimous outcry. Rightfully so in that case.

[bcris003]

Picked this up today, I am by no means a die hard LOTR fan but this set is just beautiful.

[karlosfunkster]

Originally Posted by Ken Brown

Quick question. If every time Frodo tosses on the One Ring, Sauron's eye sees him and scares him half to death, why is Bilbo so calm after slipping off the ring at the beginning of FOTR? Why doesn't he see the eye? Is it as simple as the Ringwraiths haven't been released yet, so Sauron isn't actively trying to find a Baggins wearing a ring? Maybe I'm just missing something. I'm surprised I haven't thought of it before.

I understand how the worn ring could be less menacing in 'The Hobbit' based on the text alone and Sauron's state of existence at that time. But in the world and timeline of Jackson's LOTR movie adaptations, I hadn't heard anyone talk about the differences between Bilbo and Frodo's experiences while wearing the ring. Thanks!

(Granted, it isn't as distracting as a recent Star Wars: Episode IV revelation I stumbled across. Don't click the spoiler tag unless you want to never see a key 'New Hope' scene the same way again.

[Show spoiler]Luke, distraught that Obi Wan has been killed, mopes around the Falcon. Keep in mind he barely knew Obi Wan. Leia consoles Luke and tends to him in his grief; the same Leia who just lost her entire world and everyone she ever knew and loved as a child. Um... shouldn't she be the one moping around the Falcon? Shouldn't everyone be tending to the victim of planetary genocide?

)

Oh man, now I'm never going to be able to enjoy FOTR again! Please stop now Ken!

[punisher]

so much time passed b4 Gandalf's return and Sauran hadn't pursued the ring during that period nor the time of Gollum's possession but something awoke his spirit and his desire to repossess the ring....perhaps it was Bilbo's desire for more adventures and Bilbo's return to the elves without it....Sauran may have felt the ring was safe with Bilbo but now feared whose it hands it might land in

[Ken Brown]

Originally Posted by karlosfunkster

Oh man, now I'm never going to be able to enjoy FOTR again! Please stop now Ken!

Don't read my 'Star Wars' spoiler tag then! That one kills me every time I watch 'A New Hope'