The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[Sagacious Koreo]

HAHA, this thread is so great. I placed a bet with someone to see whether this thread makes it to 415 pages by tomorrow morning.

[Cobra33]

i seriously cant see the "tint" when watching the film. and i was looking. but the movie looked so good i cant notice these things, so i dont get why people are complaining.

[Necroticart]

You would think that PJ would have chimed in by now if it was his fault but i'm thinking WB screwed up on this one given they seem to be keeping everyone quiet on the subject. i'm just hoping they fess up soon and release an exchange program.

[neoz]

So got my LOTR EE today from B&N ($41.99) But when I opened it look at what I got.

[Show spoiler]
I called B&N and they are going to send out another one but I won't get it till Thurs. or Fri. lame but at least I'm getting a new one.

[Necroticart]

well at least you got two of the best part.

[neoz]

Originally Posted by Necroticart

well at least you got two of the best part.

haha when I opened it I was like...hmm bad day at the product line I guess.

Good thing I wasn't going to have a get together I'd be screwed.

[Monkey]

Originally Posted by Karl Murks

Not to my knowledge.



No. All there has been is a typically vague business statement saying that 'all is well'. How much you want to believe in such things is up to you but without some explicit info from PJ himself about why he did it I'm never going to buy it.

So, if he says why he did it, you'll buy it, but if he doesn't say you will not? Despite the fact that picture will be exactly the same in either way? So if the PQ looked like pure bat droppings but PJ said, hell yah that is what I want it to look like, you are in for buy?

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by Cobra33

i have no idea what your talking about. i watched the scene just now and it looks fine. i dont know what your looking at. its VERY murky scene, im surprised you can see anything in those scenes, its so dark and tight.

I just now popped in both the DVD version and the BD just to make sure that I wasn't losing my mind, and sure enough, it's a huge difference between those two scenes.

If you still happen to own either the DVD or theatrical version, take a look at that same scene, and be ready to pick you jaw up off of the floor regarding the differences between the two.


BTW, ironically enough, the color tint so far is not really bothering me that much I can barely notice it. (maybe the color is off on my TV)


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[winoni71]

Just finished watching it, and:

First of all, i knew that the special features were the same as the DVD version, but comparing the discs with the BD discs, I noticed that each movie has a "Behind the scenes" disc which was not present in the dvd version. Did I miss something?

On the matter of the "green tint" issue, I failed to notice any major problem on the numerous scenes that were posted on this forum as screenshots over the past weeks, including the "fade-to-white" scene, which to me looked perfectly white.

On the other hand, i DID noticed the green tint on almost every "dark" scene (and by "dark" i mean scenes shot by night or in a cave, ecc.).
Was i the only one?

[WhySoCereal]

Originally Posted by Cobra33

i seriously cant see the "tint" when watching the film. and i was looking. but the movie looked so good i cant notice these things, so i dont get why people are complaining.

I can notice it but it's such a non-issue to me :/ I think the detail looks good and the movie looks amazing and the best it ever has. I wish there was more discussion on here other then this damn tint issue. Oh well....

[PRO-630HD]

Originally Posted by Necroticart

You would think that PJ would have chimed in by now if it was his fault but i'm thinking WB screwed up on this one given they seem to be keeping everyone quiet on the subject. i'm just hoping they fess up soon and release an exchange program.

WB rep "Nothing to see here move along" LOL!

[ahmadka]

Hey can somebody help me here ? .. Kind of a weird request but still I'm asking

I want to buy this LOTR Trilogy Extended Edition BD set (this, to be exact!), but I'm out of the US and I want to have a friend of mine in the US ship it to me .. I want to find out the exact dimensions of the LOTR set itself, and its weight as well (if anybody has a scale ), so that I can calculate the exact shipping cost I would face when my friend ships it to me ..

So can somebody take 3-4 minutes out and measure/weigh the complete package ? .. I would really appreciate it

[greg_achen]

Originally Posted by neoz

haha when I opened it I was like...hmm bad day at the product line I guess.

Good thing I wasn't going to have a get together I'd be screwed.

When I got my set, The Return of the King Blu Ray case had a little bit of the plastic cover ripped near the spine.

I felt incredibly anal exchanging it for such a minor flaw and I was initially going to let it go, but every time I opened the case, there it was staring at me... mocking me. I can now empathize with the narrator of The Tell-Tale Heart.

Anyway, your reason for exchanging is much more legitimate than mine, but I figure when you pay $70 backs for a set, it better be near flawless.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by Monkey

So, if he says why he did it, you'll buy it, but if he doesn't say you will not? Despite the fact that picture will be exactly the same in either way? So if the PQ looked like pure bat droppings but PJ said, hell yah that is what I want it to look like, you are in for buy?

Does not compute!

[MEB]

OK, time for a little lighthearted entertainment! This is intended to be fun, so please play along with a smile!

How much of the disagreement over the presence of the green/teal/cyan tint is due to one's TV and how much is due to one's eyes and brain?

Let's have a little eye test...

Click on Image #1 (below) to open a new browser window. The image you will see is made up of 20 slices of screen shots taken from the FOTR EE Blu-ray disc. After you've opened Image #1 study it for a bit. Are the white parts white? That "F" in the fourth vertical column was taken from the title ("F"ellowship Of the Ring) in the movie. Does that "F" look like it's white? Does the column to the right of it look white? Are the other white parts white? Enjoy the whiteness of it all!

Image #1


Now for Image #2. For this one I used Photoshop to read the color value of the "F". I then used that color value to add a horizontal band across the entire image. That band (immediately above the "F") is the exact same color as the F. I've also placed two pure white horizontal bands across the image.

Image #2


Do the parts that looked white before look white now?

Funny how our eyes & brain play tricks on us, no?

My thanks to 42041 over at AVS forum for the original image!

Mark

[mzupeman]

Originally Posted by winoni71

On the other hand, i DID noticed the green tint on almost every "dark" scene (and by "dark" i mean scenes shot by night or in a cave, ecc.).
Was i the only one?

My experience was quite the opposite, actually. I noticed the greenish tint more in the brightest of daytime scenes, as the green tint took away from that 'sunny blue skies' look a bit, and lessed the contrast there a bit. The nighttime scenes, or darker scenes, actually looked more like they were blue-ish to me.


As far as some of the other comments made in this thread, the mindset is absolutely mind-blowing: The mindset most common is, "If I have to adjust my eyes to see the film, then it's not an enjoyable experience." It's not the eyes that need the adjusting peoples... it's your brain. And I'm not saying that in a condescending way, don't get me wrong. I'm just saying, you're all watching this film with what it USED to look like in your mind, so your mentally adjusting BECAUSE of visuals, not adjusting visually.

Another thing that people really haven't talked about TOO much, is just how involved the process was for making all three of these films back to back to back. I mean, Peter Jackson was getting about four hours of sleep a night, different editors were hired for each film to take some of the pressure off of him, and it wasn't until sometime after production started that Jackson decided there would eventually be Extended Editions of each movie. I'm sure that put a crimp in his schedule when it came down to working on the post-production parts of FOTR. Not to mention, the stuff that was being filmed simultaneously for the second and third films were much more complicated to get done, just due to the grand scope of everything that was going on. It's entirely feasible that in the first film, he didn't really have the convenience of time to be able to go through, analyze every single shot, and decide how he wanted to adjust the color timing for it all. The second, and especially the third films had very specific color tones in many scenes, and now, FOTR is no different.

[greg_achen]

Originally Posted by MEB

OK, time for a little lighthearted entertainment! This is intended to be fun, so please play along with a smile!

How much of the disagreement over the presence of the green/teal/cyan tint is due to one's TV and how much is due to one's eyes and brain?

Let's have a little eye test...

Click on Image #1 (below) to open a new browser window. The image you will see is made up of 20 slices of screen shots taken from the FOTR EE Blu-ray disc. After you've opened Image #1 study it for a bit. Are the white parts white? That "F" in the fourth vertical column was taken from the title ("F"ellowship Of the Ring) in the movie. Does that "F" look like it's white? Does the column to the right of it look white? Are the other white parts white? Enjoy the whiteness of it all!

Image #1


Now for Image #2. For this one I used Photoshop to read the color value of the "F". I then used that color value to add a horizontal band across the entire image. That band (immediately above the "F") is the exact same color as the F. I've also placed two pure white horizontal bands across the image.

Image #2


Do the parts that looked white before look white now?

Funny how our eyes & brain play tricks on us, no?

My thanks to 42041 over at AVS forum for the original image!

Mark

It's posts like yours why I haven't abandoned this God-foresaken thread. That is really amazing! It's hard to believe our mind really does that!

[mzupeman]

Originally Posted by MEB

OK, time for a little lighthearted entertainment! This is intended to be fun, so please play along with a smile!

How much of the disagreement over the presence of the green/teal/cyan tint is due to one's TV and how much is due to one's eyes and brain?

Let's have a little eye test...

Click on Image #1 (below) to open a new browser window. The image you will see is made up of 20 slices of screen shots taken from the FOTR EE Blu-ray disc. After you've opened Image #1 study it for a bit. Are the white parts white? That "F" in the fourth vertical column was taken from the title ("F"ellowship Of the Ring) in the movie. Does that "F" look like it's white? Does the column to the right of it look white? Are the other white parts white? Enjoy the whiteness of it all!

Image #1


Now for Image #2. For this one I used Photoshop to read the color value of the "F". I then used that color value to add a horizontal band across the entire image. That band (immediately above the "F") is the exact same color as the F. I've also placed two pure white horizontal bands across the image.

Image #2


Do the parts that looked white before look white now?

Funny how our eyes & brain play tricks on us, no?

My thanks to 42041 over at AVS forum for the original image!

Mark

I would say Photoshop actually failed you. I can actually tell the difference between the green bands and the green tint in the white parts of what you posted. It's fairly close but, it's still not the same.

This is part of the problem that exists due to the internet... screenshot scientists are going to make all these comparisons... and I'm not even sure why people are wasting their valuable time. NOBODY is denying the green is there, they're just saying that it's a minor issue and some actually even prefer the new color timing. Is it true white? No. But, 'white' in the film is really something that's to be taken in context with the entire image your seeing, throughout the entirety of the film. I never thought that whites looked green in the film. In fact, some scenes were more pleasant to my eye, because the abundance of white, even on a properly calibrated set, used to make me want to shield my eyes in my dark viewing environment. Not anymore!

[borninusa]

Seriously, this is STILL getting talked about. I go away for 20-30 pages..and its still a big discussion. Buy it or dont buy it..who the heck cares? I shall enjoy mine

[MEB]

Originally Posted by greg_achen

It's posts like yours why I haven't abandoned this God-foresaken thread. That is really amazing! It's hard to believe our mind really does that!

For extra credit, after you look at Image #1 and study it, and then switch to Image #2, then go back to Image #1. Your brain will "remember" the tint in Image #2 and let you see the greenness in Image #1.

Mark