The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003) - Page 416 - Blu-ray Forum

flodsby · 07-03-2011, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by amoergosum

there's so much repeating that i think more about "dallas mavericks 2011 nba champs!!!!" than actual lotr related stuff ...

lol!

SymbioticFunction · 07-03-2011, 01:52 AM

Have to say that the green tint throughout FOTR really is annoying. Around a third of the film now looks just plain wrong (not merely different), and rather crucially, is actually also very uncomfortable on the eyes. It's a case of "it'll do for now." Watched the first half of Two Towers and it looked pretty damn good (phew). Will finish film discs 4, 5 & 6 tomorrow, and am looking forward to it. btw Hard to believe that this happened. I sincerely hope that a FOTR exchange program takes place, as happened for Ridley Scott's Gladiator. This needs fixing.

Petyr_Baelish · 07-03-2011, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan Preston

Very odd. After watching TTT, we went back to that scene and watched it again on surround, 5 channel output and stereo just to prove the sounds exists...it does not. It might be my new Blu-ray player but the first two movies have been perfect, save that one sound bite. The black riders screams are all so far in the distance you can barely hear them with your ear on the speaker (any of them). Guess we'll just have to live with it.

Well, frogmort didn't have a problem, so its probably your setup.

AreaUnderTheCurve · 07-03-2011, 01:56 AM

Just finished watching Fellowship and my God is the transfer stunning. Aside from my previous complaints about the transfer (Mount Doom having terrible blacks in the prologue and a too-dark image of Bilbo fidgeting around in his pockets while looking for the ring), there is nothing more for me to complain about. Well, no. Amon Sul at 1:11:46 is pretty bad and there's no way to justify it looking that green.

At 46:54 there's white snow. OH, MY GOD! WHITE SNOW IN THIS GREEN-INFESTED MONSTROSITY OF A TRANSFER! Rivendell has never looked better and it's simply gorgeous. The same goes for Caras Galadhon (for a perfect poster, go to disc 2 and pause at 47:37).

I'll watch TTT tomorrow. I want to watch Lost.

notops · 07-03-2011, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by PRO-630HD

Wrong! They blend extemely well. Black levels are identical. Contrast is the same. Neither of these sequels have rich colored faces. The color pallette overall is pale in both films. ROTK is far from the technicolor presentation you are making it out to be. Look at the flesh tones of faces in TTT and ROTK, they are virtually identical. The same can be said for the TE bluray of FOTR.

Huh? I never "made it out to be" a technicolor presentation. I said it was a nice balance between the first two (which, judging by the extreme desaturation of color in TTT, it is).

Btw, they can manipulate the flesh tones to their liking without affecting other info in the frame, its a very old technology called digital color grading.

DarkDune · 07-03-2011, 02:43 AM

Part of the issue about the "green" tint is that adding an overall green tint to any film or video presentation has the effect of dulling colors and the dynamic range of the moving images. For those who have watched the Extended Editions of the Lord of the Rings films for years now, I think we can all agree that even on DVD it was clear that the color pallet of all the films was very richly detailed. You could pick out the different colors of each of the Hobbit's coats, and they were truly in no way the same color. I think the won Oscars for the costuming on these films -- I'll have to check.

So, anyone who feels it is a pointless exercise to voice concern about what appears to be an authoring mistake, I would ask that you take the time to understand and appreciate where we are coming from. The "tint" has the effect of changing our reactions to the film from "drooling" at the color, to almost feeling sick at the image. It isn't something to turn your nose up at

AreaUnderTheCurve · 07-03-2011, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkDune

So, anyone who feels it is a pointless exercise to voice concern about what appears to be an authoring mistake, I would ask that you take the time to understand and appreciate where we are coming from.

Of which there is no evidence strong enough to support that concern.

radagast · 07-03-2011, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by notops

Two Towers does not blend "seamlessly" with the others. TTT has always been a relatively drab looking movie, like they tried to mute the colors as much as they could get away with, and color wise looks nothing like FOTR or ROTK.

FOTR has always been the most vibrant looking. TTT is darn near black & white in comparison, while ROTK seems to strike a good balance between the two.

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Originally Posted by PRO-630HD

Wrong! They blend extemely well. Black levels are identical. Contrast is the same. Neither of these sequels have rich colored faces. The color pallette overall is pale in both films. ROTK is far from the technicolor presentation you are making it out to be. Look at the flesh tones of faces in TTT and ROTK, they are virtually identical. The same can be said for the TE bluray of FOTR.

Now we've gone from arguing about FOTR to arguing about TTT and ROTK?

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! Make it stop. Make it stop!!! My head hurts!!!

The Blufather · 07-03-2011, 03:00 AM

One of you start an online petition yet - http://www.petitiononline.com/

Get it going.

PRO-630HD · 07-03-2011, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by notops

Huh? I never "made it out to be" a technicolor presentation. I said it was a nice balance between the first two (which, judging by the extreme desaturation of color in TTT, it is).

Btw, they can manipulate the flesh tones to their liking without affecting other info in the frame, its a very old technology called digital color grading.

Peter Doyle did the color grading in FOTR and sequels and Andrew Lesnie was with him in the room for the majority of it. Obviously this gives the films their very consistent look for the trilogy. The color scheme to me seems to be a far more normal blue, red and green.

The new EE bluray is very Orange and Teal throughout with deeper blacks or basically being underexposed. I can even buy into the revisionist color scheme if the sequels were done in the same manner. As it stands the contrast, brightness, and colors on the TE blurays and EE versions of TTT and ROTK are spot on. The EE of FOTR looks very different. Blacks are extremely deep, dynamic range is decreased, faces go from fairly pale to full of color and teal and orange dominate the color palette. What is up with the green tint throughout the entire film I don't know. With digital grading that would never be necessary.

notops · 07-03-2011, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PRO-630HD

Peter Doyle did the color grading in FOTR and sequels and Andrew Lesnie was with him in the room for the majority of it. Obviously this gives the films their very consistent look for the trilogy. The color scheme to me seems to be a far more normal blue, red and green.

The new EE bluray is very Orange and Teal throughout with deeper blacks or basically being underexposed. I can even buy into the revisionist color scheme if the sequels were done in the same manner. As it stands the contrast, brightness, and colors on the TE blurays and EE versions of TTT and ROTK are spot on. The EE of FOTR looks very different. Blacks are extremely deep, dynamic range is decreased, faces go from fairly pale to full of color and teal and orange dominate the color palette. What is up with the green tint throughout the entire film I don't know. With digital grading that would never be necessary.

Just because the same people graded each movie does not automatically mean they all look the same (they don't).

No offense, but if you cannot tell the massive difference between each individual movie's color scheme (compare the theatrical cuts if the EEs are too confusing with Fellowship's changes), you should get checked out for color-blindness.

DarkDune · 07-03-2011, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JLTucker

Of which there is no evidence strong enough to support that concern.

Huh?

Petyr_Baelish · 07-03-2011, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkDune

Huh?

She means there is not enough evidence to support That its a mistake.

lkmg · 07-03-2011, 04:06 AM

Thinking of getting the best buy exclusive one ring off ebay. Is it worth it? Will the gold plated paint fade?

AreaUnderTheCurve · 07-03-2011, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Boone_Carlyle

She means there is not enough evidence to support That its a mistake.

He means. That is indeed what I'm saying.

DarkDune · 07-03-2011, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by lkmg

Thinking of getting the best buy exclusive one ring off ebay. Is it worth it? Will the gold plated paint fade?

It might it you throw it into a fireplace to see if it remains "cool".

LOL

Sorry. Couldn't resist

lilgigs · 07-03-2011, 04:40 AM

Just sent WB a message, thanking them for a great set.

crazyBLUE · 07-03-2011, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by lilgigs

Just sent WB a message, thanking them for a great set.

Petyr_Baelish · 07-03-2011, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JLTucker

He means. That is indeed what I'm saying.

I assumed because of your avatar.

lkmg · 07-03-2011, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lilgigs

Just sent WB a message, thanking them for a great set.

Did u ask them about replacement program for fotr...?

07-03-2011, 01:56 AM	#8304
AreaUnderTheCurve Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2008 4K collection:40 Blu-ray collection:91 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:25	Just finished watching Fellowship and my God is the transfer stunning. Aside from my previous complaints about the transfer (Mount Doom having terrible blacks in the prologue and a too-dark image of Bilbo fidgeting around in his pockets while looking for the ring), there is nothing more for me to complain about. Well, no. Amon Sul at 1:11:46 is pretty bad and there's no way to justify it looking that green. At 46:54 there's white snow. OH, MY GOD! WHITE SNOW IN THIS GREEN-INFESTED MONSTROSITY OF A TRANSFER! Rivendell has never looked better and it's simply gorgeous. The same goes for Caras Galadhon (for a perfect poster, go to disc 2 and pause at 47:37). I'll watch TTT tomorrow. I want to watch Lost. Last edited by AreaUnderTheCurve; 07-03-2011 at 01:59 AM.

07-03-2011, 01:52 AM	#8302
SymbioticFunction Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Chichester, UK 4K collection:153 Blu-ray collection:987 DVD collection:121 Prime collection:2 Blu-ray reviews:2	Have to say that the green tint throughout FOTR really is annoying. Around a third of the film now looks just plain wrong (not merely different), and rather crucially, is actually also very uncomfortable on the eyes. It's a case of "it'll do for now." Watched the first half of Two Towers and it looked pretty damn good (phew). Will finish film discs 4, 5 & 6 tomorrow, and am looking forward to it. btw Hard to believe that this happened. I sincerely hope that a FOTR exchange program takes place, as happened for Ridley Scott's Gladiator. This needs fixing.

07-03-2011, 02:43 AM	#8306
DarkDune Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Aug 2008 Home Theater Gallery:164 Blu-ray collection:280 Blu-ray reviews: 7	Part of the issue about the "green" tint is that adding an overall green tint to any film or video presentation has the effect of dulling colors and the dynamic range of the moving images. For those who have watched the Extended Editions of the Lord of the Rings films for years now, I think we can all agree that even on DVD it was clear that the color pallet of all the films was very richly detailed. You could pick out the different colors of each of the Hobbit's coats, and they were truly in no way the same color. I think the won Oscars for the costuming on these films -- I'll have to check. So, anyone who feels it is a pointless exercise to voice concern about what appears to be an authoring mistake, I would ask that you take the time to understand and appreciate where we are coming from. The "tint" has the effect of changing our reactions to the film from "drooling" at the color, to almost feeling sick at the image. It isn't something to turn your nose up at

07-03-2011, 03:00 AM	#8309
The Blufather Active Member Member since:Jan 2011 4K collection:106 Blu-ray collection:630	One of you start an online petition yet - http://www.petitiononline.com/ Get it going.

07-03-2011, 04:06 AM	#8314
lkmg Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2010 Blu-ray collection:172 Trading Score:6	Thinking of getting the best buy exclusive one ring off ebay. Is it worth it? Will the gold plated paint fade?

07-03-2011, 04:40 AM	#8317
lilgigs Member Member since:Sep 2009 Blu-ray collection:437	Just sent WB a message, thanking them for a great set.

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