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Old 07-05-2011, 01:54 PM   #9081
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Anyone have a chance to, or willing to try this yet?
I'll try it and report back later tonight.
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Old 07-05-2011, 01:55 PM   #9082
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Okay, these are some screencaps from the now infamous scene in the mountains, taken directly from the blu-ray, that i've applied the same filter to to remove the constant green tint. Don't you guys that say they like the green tint think these look more 'correct' colourwise than the blu-ray? Wouldn't you prefer the blu-ray to look more like these screencaps? Apologies in advance for the size of these.

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Old 07-05-2011, 02:01 PM   #9083
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Member Workshed responded to you on the page before this one about that.
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:02 PM   #9084
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Okay, these are some screencaps from the now infamous scene in the mountains, taken directly from the blu-ray, that i've applied the same filter to to remove the constant green tint. Don't you guys that say they like the green tint think these look more 'correct' colourwise than the blu-ray? Wouldn't you prefer the blu-ray to look more like these screencaps? Apologies in advance for the size of these.
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I think I like it. Can you try the Hue "fix" I mention above?

Also, you can use Spoiler Tags for this many large images if you prefer.
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:06 PM   #9085
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It certainly helped! I rock on five-year-old LG and had to do some continual tweaking by lowering the green as low as I could and boosting the red as high as I could. The resulting picture with the added six point green tint does help the picture look far more in line with the rest of the trilogy. However, it still is a little muddy due to the contrast issues and would love a replacement. This will do in the meantime.
Sweet!

I want to find out if it helps more people. Please if you have time, give it a try, and let us know your results. Remember to note the Hue setting before you start so that you can go back to it!

If more people find this makes the FOTR EE movie look more accurate even with the new black levels, and color-timing, the green-tint issue may actually be an incorrect default Hue on the Blu-ray.

Also, this may explain why some do not notice the green-tint at all -- in those cases their Hue setting may have been "wrong" to begin with.

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Old 07-05-2011, 02:07 PM   #9086
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I'll try it and report back later tonight.
Cool! Thanks also for pointing me to WorkShed's results post
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:11 PM   #9087
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Hitler videos, really guy, I watched the You Tube clip and found it to be pathetic. Downfall is a terrific film but the insinuation to propagate an opinion with such a method is offensive. I also find it curious that the reply from Mr. Harris to your suggestion has been wiped clean, vanished, yet this post remains, dubious indeed....
The video is a spoof, you would be hard pressed to find a topic/issue today that doesn't get something like this.

This thread continues to get worse and worse, too many people personally attacking other people.
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:12 PM   #9088
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Okay, these are some screencaps from the now infamous scene in the mountains, taken directly from the blu-ray, that i've applied the same filter to to remove the constant green tint. Don't you guys that say they like the green tint think these look more 'correct' colourwise than the blu-ray? Wouldn't you prefer the blu-ray to look more like these screencaps? Apologies in advance for the size of these.
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I prefer the look that Peter Jackson intended. Simple as that. The current bluray looks great. Green tint and all. I don't necessarily thing looking "all natural" makes it look "all better" Rivendell looks sooo much better with the new tint.

This is my ONLY post in this thread today, I don't want to restart the whole cycle once again.

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Old 07-05-2011, 02:12 PM   #9089
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Okay, these are some screencaps from the now infamous scene in the mountains, taken directly from the blu-ray, that i've applied the same filter to to remove the constant green tint. Don't you guys that say they like the green tint think these look more 'correct' colourwise than the blu-ray? Wouldn't you prefer the blu-ray to look more like these screencaps? Apologies in advance for the size of these.
No
When the picture is in motion it looks great. My set is professionally calabrated and I see no need to mess with it.

I would rather see the artists intent.

We have the WHV issued statement that it is as intended by the director.

And until we hear otherwise from PJ directly we need to assume it is.

You all can thrash around with setings all you want and tory to reverse engineer what the changes were. But that does not alter what we do know.

And if you are making your judgements without seeing the film in motion then you are not judging as intended. The brain precieves things like color differently when pictures are in motion as opposed to stills. Since the changes are inteneded for the picture in motion, judging it in any other context is innaccurate.
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:16 PM   #9090
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The brain precieves things like color differently when pictures are in motion as opposed to stills.
And the brain will compensate for inaccuracies by trying to "fix" them itself. We want our brains to work less, rest, and enjoy correct color, not green-tinted color.

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Old 07-05-2011, 02:21 PM   #9091
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We want our brains to work less, rest, and enjoy correct color, not green-tinted color.

What are you trying to do, start a union for brains?
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:30 PM   #9092
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Mostly true, although some the extra scenes are worthless. It really is true sometimes that less is more with movies. Everyone should watch both and see what they think. IMO, The EE of the Fellowship is the only MUST watch. The TE is rushed and just doesnt work. The Two Towers and ROTK are a different story. There are things I like and things I dont like about each one. Some scenes are extended and dont work as well as the shorter scenes. Some additions arent very important.
I think the missing scenes in TT that show how Boromir's father wants the ring and expects him to bring it back to Gondor should have been included in the FOTR sometime before the council scene. I have always felt this way since I first saw the EEs several years ago.
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:31 PM   #9093
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I don't think that Faramir even really knew the ring was in Frodo's possession. He knew his brother went to Rivendell regarding rumors that Isildur's Bane had been found. Frodo never told them that Gollum was a part of the fellowship, all he pretty much said was that anyone against the enemy would do well to not be in his way. I don't think that the men of Gondor thought very much of hobbits. I think the beating of Gollum was more as punishment for the Forbidden Pool than extracting information of the One Ring. That was just a happy side effect.
That's what I was trying to get at! well put
I need to watch the trilogy again...

Btw, it's nice to get back to talk about the movies themselves...
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:32 PM   #9094
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Wow. Finally someone else is willing to say this. It drives me nuts when people here do stuff like that.

Here's a primer folks:

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Their = possesive. Example: Their dog is pooping on my lawn.
There = place. Examnple: Their dog pooped over there.

They're not watching their dog and he pooped over there.
That's silly to get annoyed over. The vast majority of people making such typos know the difference between the usages.

It's just easy to swap homophones when typing quickly and most people don't bother proofreading forum posts. I certainly don't. I have to proofread things nearly everyday for work, so I'm not wasting my time on that shit when posting online. Especially since typos have the added benefit of annoying people like you....


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I'm quite surprised, Grandbob, that dmaul1114 hasn't countered this post yet with the obligatory response that "it worked for the movies better" or he "liked that better than the books" or some such. It's like the universe is out of balance.


Those changes Bob mentioned I'm all indifferent toward. I don't think they're better than the book, but nor do they bother me or lessen my opinion of the movies as they work fine in telling the movie's story despite changing the tone of scenes/character from the book.
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:36 PM   #9095
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Wow! Irritates you to no end when people screw up spelling does it?
Yeah and it irritates me that I didn't catch that. Thanks.
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Okay, these are some screencaps from the now infamous scene in the mountains, taken directly from the blu-ray, that i've applied the same filter to to remove the constant green tint. Don't you guys that say they like the green tint think these look more 'correct' colourwise than the blu-ray? Wouldn't you prefer the blu-ray to look more like these screencaps? Apologies in advance for the size of these.
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:43 PM   #9097
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That's silly to get annoyed over. The vast majority of people making such typos know the difference between the usages.
Yes it does matter. Words mean things. And there are folks that don't have English as their main language and it can make it difficult for them to understand what we are saying. It's lazy attitudes like that make it easy for non-English speaking people to look down on us.
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:44 PM   #9098
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Yeah and it irritates me that I didn't catch that. Thanks.
My biggest pet peeve is people who overuse the word "myself." Its a reflexive pronoun, only used when one is taking action upon ones own self... WAY TOO MANY people use it when they should just be using the word "me"

BUT! Thats beside the point. My main point is that I watched completely the new Fellowship this weekend... and I have to say that almost all of it looks AMAZING!!! The detail is wonderful. BUT! There definitely IS an issue (IMO of course) with crushing blacks in most of Moria, and the green/teal/cyan tint is UNBEARABLE in a few scenes. There are even times where in one shot, the snow looks fine but then in others its completely changed... very inconsistent. Then pop in TTT and BOOM beautiful white snow! YAY!

I'm not going to let it bother me as the good FAR outweighs the bad in the new release, just seems a bit inconsistent at times, and I personally wish it had not been changed (except maybe the Rivendell scene, never too much cared for the overly RED bright tint to that scene)
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:47 PM   #9099
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Those changes Bob mentioned I'm all indifferent toward. I don't think they're better than the book, but nor do they bother me or lessen my opinion of the movies as they work fine in telling the movie's story despite changing the tone of scenes/character from the book.
Ah yes, finally. The universe is back in order. Grandbob defends the greatest literary work of the 20th Century and dmaul1114 continues to not understand why changing the characters DOES change the story. And continues to not see that keeping with the book would have not harmed the quality of the movies.
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My biggest pet peeve is people who overuse the word "myself." Its a reflexive pronoun, only used when one is taking action upon ones own self... WAY TOO MANY people use it when they should just be using the word "me"
One thing I have been noticing in the last few years is how many people are using a made up contraction: "All's" They will say "All's I wanted to do is go home after work." All's? What's that a contraction of? "All is"? "All is I wanted to do is go home after work"?

That's not even considering how many journalists use the phony word "co-conspirator". Or the phony word "dis-associate".
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