The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

I enjoy the Matrix Trilogy more than the Rings Trilogy because, to me, they don't overstay their welcome.

That's just how I feel on the matter. I will always adore the Fellowship Extended Edition but that's about as far as I go with the Rings series.

LOTR is not a trilogy. A trilogy would be three separate but related movies. LOTR is one long story spread out over 3 movies.

The Matrix series was a lot like the Dune books. The first one was great. Each book after that became increasingly bad.

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by Velmeran

Notice the post a just a few posts down (#3550) pretty much proves the *gasp* there were always color differences between FotR and TTT/RotK flashback sequences.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/59616

Discuss/argue about the green tint till were blue in the face but the fact remains that there were apparently always color differences between the flashback sequences (differences we apparently never cared about before, or never noticed because their only now being brought to attention of most forum-goers); so trying to use the differences now to prove a "mistake" is an invalid argument.

Color differences, sure. A green tint over the entire transfer I dont buy.

[rocinante]

Originally Posted by NYorker

The Matrix is not a trilogy. It's one excellent film and two excruciatingly awful movies tinted with green slime.

Everyone has an opinion. I know a lot of people that love the matrix movies because they are modern and cant stand goofy dated fantasy movies with wizards and monsters like LOTR. Not everyone grew up playing dungeons and dragons, so dont get on someones case if they like matrix more. There's a ton of people that do just so you know.

[El_Jay]

Originally Posted by Post Prod

It bothers me simply because if those voices demanding one disc were loud enough, studios might want to shy away from putting quality first.
Granted with the LOTR EE trilogy, as long as PJ is alive, that will probably not happen. But in general terms it does advocate a trend from quality and towards convenience. Which is the exact same trend of moving away from physical media to digital distribution.
I have nothing against digital copies or having things on one disc. I just want the best quality possible.

I don't support blu-ray because I like Sony. I don't support it because I like the name, or even care about physical formats. I support it because as of right now, it is the medium that offers the highest potential for quality.

Expecting a proportional quality jump (in relation to increased capacity)from DVD to blu-ray seems like a pretty normal expectation. So seeing people get upset about this being on 2 discs, after the DVDs were on two, just confuses me.

If you like blu-ray because it offers more capacity and you're more jazzed about fitting the most stuff on one disc, then fine. I recall a lot of people being confused when TV shows first came out on blu-ray. why entire seasons weren't put on one disc. So I know these people exist. I just disagree with them about what validates blu-rays existence.

*I* don't want to sacrifice quality for convenience. *I* don't think they would have needed to, either.

Even if BD-50 was truly maxed out, didn't Sharp develop BD-100s a year or so ago? LOTR seems like an ideal time to roll 'em out.

If nobody cared about this crap we'd still have Xboxes using 7 DVD9s for a video game... oh, wait.

Anyway don't direct this nonsense at me, I'm not fighting for these to be on one disc and I didn't write the negative reviews. I just think it's really irritating to hear "get off your lazy asses" as the go-to apologist argument to try and make people look petty.

[Eismagier]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

Even if BD-50 was truly maxed out, didn't Sharp develop BD-100s a year or so ago? LOTR seems like an ideal time to roll 'em out.

BDXL discs aren't backwards compatible.

[BleedingEdge]

Originally Posted by HeKS

Hey BleedingEdge,

Thanks for that analysis. The results for my fix are essentially what I expected, but what interested me most was the analysis of my re-broken version, because it's nearly identical to the read-out on the untouched EE version. To me, that suggests that, apart from issues relating to dynamic range and stuff like that, my fix is probably pretty accurate, since simply applying a green photo filter and turning of my contrast fix gets back to a read-out almost identical to the EE image.

HeKS

No problem. Something you ought to try if you have them: put on a pair of Red-Blue anaglyph stereoscopy glasses and look at the image through the red side. You can see immediately how much of the bottom end of the red channel was cut out. Try looking through the blue side at any lit area for a while (maybe 15 minutes or so, so your eyes can adjust) and take them off and look at the EE with that eye. Notice anything?

[greg_achen]

Originally Posted by Mavrick

But then the player wouldnt be able to upscale the SD content the way it does with the DVD.

Unless WHV upscaled the SD content themselves before transferring it to Blu Ray. But I think it's cheaper for them to recycle DVDs from previous sets.

[Jumpman]

LOTR is not a trilogy. A trilogy would be three separate but related movies. LOTR is one long story spread out over 3 movies.

The Matrix series was a lot like the Dune books. The first one was great. Each book after that became increasingly bad.

Thanks for pointing that out. Doesn't change the fact that I get more enjoyment out of the Matrix series/trilogy/franchise than I do out of the Rings trilogy/series/franchise/one story.

I honestly don't care what you call it. I call it one masterpiece film (Fellowship Extended) followed by two over indulgent so-so films.

[MerrickG]

Back to the arguments about the extras being on dvd.

I saw a few posts saying they shouldn't have bothered to put in the extras if they were just going to reuse the old dvds.

I disagree with this strongly. I would have certainly preferred all of the dvd extras to be condensed onto one bluray (even if it was all filmed in SD), but I think the absolute WORST thing Warner could have done with this set is to not put all previously released extras into this set.

Its naive to assume that everyone buying these on bluray already owns the 4 disc DVD set and therefore already has all the extras.

In the early days of bluray NOTHING made me more mad than buying a film on bluray that didn't include all previously released extras.

[Eismagier]

Originally Posted by merrick97

In the early days of bluray NOTHING made me more mad than buying a film on bluray that didn't include all previously released extras.

Omitted features are still irritating, even though I'm not planning on getting rid of my DVDs anytime soon.

[Member-115369]

Originally Posted by merrick97

Back to the arguments about the extras being on dvd.

I saw a few posts saying they shouldn't have bothered to put in the extras if they were just going to reuse the old dvds.

I disagree with this strongly. I would have certainly preferred all of the dvd extras to be condensed onto one bluray (even if it was all filmed in SD), but I think the absolute WORST thing Warner could have done with this set is to not put all previously released extras into this set.

Its naive to assume that everyone buying these on bluray already owns the 4 disc DVD set and therefore already has all the extras.

In the early days of bluray NOTHING made me more mad than buying a film on bluray that didn't include all previously released extras.

Agreed. I got rid of my DVDs when I get the blu rays, so I definitely want the BR to have all the DVD extras plus any added ones. At least for the few films like LOTR where I actually watch extras.

[kurtlingle]

Originally Posted by Boone_Carlyle

ok guys, I bought the set, but am still not sure if I am going to keep it. Should I open it or return it to the fiery chasm from whence it came? Let's take a vote...

Open it, hopefully you hate it and sell it to me!
I'm hoping someone who sees green will unload this set ....



Ok, that's selfish. Hope you enjoy it.

[MerrickG]

Originally Posted by Boone_Carlyle

ok guys, I bought the set, but am still not sure if I am going to keep it. Should I open it or return it to the fiery chasm from whence it came? Let's take a vote...

<gandalf voice> Open it, you fool!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

*I* don't want to sacrifice quality for convenience. *I* don't think they would have needed to, either.

Even if BD-50 was truly maxed out, didn't Sharp develop BD-100s a year or so ago? LOTR seems like an ideal time to roll 'em out.

If nobody cared about this crap we'd still have Xboxes using 7 DVD9s for a video game... oh, wait....

Larger capacity Blu-ray software for movies in the future is not to be absolutely ruled out, as it has been discussed by BDA members even prior to the LOTR EEs streeting….

https://forum.blu-ray.com/insider-di...ml#post4859584

[hijeff1]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

You're in luck...I have the same player. We need a firmware update to correct this but there is a work around for it. When you are at the blank screen just press the right arrow that is next to your enter button. That should bring up the menu. If you just want to play the movie just hit enter when the black screen comes up. Try it and let me know if that works.

Pressing the enter button did let me resume the movie, but pressing the right arrow didn't work. But atleast I can watch the movie again. Thank you. Any idea when the update will be released?

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Larger capacity Blu-ray software for movies in the future is not to be absolutely ruled out, as it has been discussed by BDA members even prior to the LOTR EEs streeting….

https://forum.blu-ray.com/insider-di...ml#post4859584

That's really good to know Penton, thank you. However, I remember an article here on BD.com a couple years ago from the BDA stating that BD discs over 50GB will never be approved for video use, so are they kinda throwing that out the window at this point now realizing that one BD50 is not ideal for films such as Gettysburg, Gods and Generals, and Return of the King extended?

[El_Jay]

Ok guys, that's enough.

You are henceforth not allowed to voice displeasure about something, no matter how valid, because it clearly upsets some people here to the point that they need to lash out in anger and probably even blindly defend every aspect of something, no matter how flimsy.

If you have a single complaint about LOTR past this point, you are hereby labeled a communist.



Orrrrrrr... on the other hand, if you don't like what some people are saying about it, why don't you ignore their posts, or leave the thread? If you can't handle criticism of something you had absolutely no hand in creating, the big scary world out there has a lot of surprises in store for you.


DISCLAIMER: This post is sarcastic, NOT intended to be taken seriously, just a jest. Please accept it as such.

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by hijeff1

Pressing the enter button did let me resume the movie, but pressing the right arrow didn't work. But atleast I can watch the movie again. Thank you. Any idea when the update will be released?

Sony is usually pretty good about getting updates out there, I would say within the next week to 2 weeks a good firmware update SHOULD be released to take care of the problem.

Originally Posted by El_Jay

Ok guys, that's enough.

You are henceforth not allowed to voice displeasure about something, no matter how valid, because it clearly upsets some people here to the point that they need to lash out in anger and probably even blindly defend every aspect of something, no matter how flimsy.

If you have a single complaint about LOTR past this point, you are hereby labeled a communist.



Orrrrrrr... on the other hand, if you don't like what some people are saying about it, why don't you ignore their posts, or leave the thread? If you can't handle criticism of something you had absolutely no hand in creating, the big scary world out there has a lot of surprises in store for you.

Orrrrrrrr.... you could ignore the complaining and stop complaining about it yourself... you're doing exactly what you are telling others to not do...

[vidjunkie]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

Ok guys, that's enough.

You are henceforth not allowed to voice displeasure about something, no matter how valid, because it clearly upsets some people here to the point that they need to lash out in anger and probably even blindly defend every aspect of something, no matter how flimsy.

If you have a single complaint about LOTR past this point, you are labeled a communist.


On the other hand, if you don't like what some people are saying about it, why don't you ignore their posts, or leave the thread? If you can't handle criticism of something you had absolutely no hand in creating, the big scary world out there has a lot of surprises in store for you.

Who are you? are you a MOD here or something?

[vidjunkie]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

Nope, are you a guy who clearly doesn't get the joke here, or something?

I get jokes just as well as the next guy, but you Sir like to stir the pot, and it shows in almost all your posts, just look at what you type here, and in the SW thread, jeez WTF is wrong some people.