The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[radagast]

Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

OK, so: even if it's just to let off steam from these perenially-recurring disagreements, can someone please answer my question?

Does anyone get Elvish-looking subtitles with these Blu-rays?

Can you give specific places for me to check?

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

Hahaha , "99%" Gotta love those cold hard stats.... And "misrepresent" what, exactly? Those are direct frame captures from the BD discs themselves. What you see in those screenshots is what is actually on the Fellowship discs.

I read somewhere that 75% of stats quoted, are made up.

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by Andrew-Kenneth

In an 5-page interview with IGN Jackson called the TE the best possible cut and the EE a novelty for the fans.

quote :
JACKSON : The extended versions are interesting because I do the extended versions for the fans, really. To me every time I put a scene in it, it's mucking up the momentum. The theatrical versions are very carefully worked out. We spent a whole year trying to get the best possible cut.

Q: What's the definitive version of these films?

JACKSON: The theatrical versions are the definitive versions. I regard the extended cuts as being a novelty for the fans that really want to see the extra material.

full interview : http://au.movies.ign.com/articles/445/445262p4.html

Well, "better" is a subjective word anyways. Doesnt matter, I suppose. Lots of people like the EE's either way. Definitive is the word I heard him use in the appendices we watched over the last week.

[frogmort]

Originally Posted by s2mikey

I realize the books have way more stuff but there is something to be said for seeing those huge battles, seeing the Balrog, and watching the incredible quest that our heroes go on. There is so much to see and the books don't do it all justice.

The books don't do it all justice?
I love these films. They are some of my absolute favorites, but yeah, the books have way more "stuff". That way more "stuff" that didn't make it into the movies is awesome. It is really cool seeing the battles, and the Balrog scene is fabulous, but the books are, in my opinion, some of the best works of fiction ever written.

[Drew664]

Originally Posted by frogmort

The books don't do it all justice?
I love these films. They are some of my absolute favorites, but yeah, the books have way more "stuff". That way more "stuff" that didn't make it into the movies is awesome. It is really cool seeing the battles, and the Balrog scene is fabulous, but the books are, in my opinion, some of the best works of fiction ever written.

Interesting discussion on that a movie actually outdid a book. I do not think so in these movies, but they certianly helped paint the picture. Imagination plays a huge part in what the reader sees, so for some people, I could see it as the movie being the better version. Not for me though!

[Petra_Kalbrain]

The green tint DOES NOT EXIST on my sceen and has never existed! I made several comparisons of FOTR environment colours to real-life environment colours while watching it. Blue skies out my window matched the blue skies on s screen PERFECTLY. Tree greens on screen were the same as that of the trees out my window. Whites (snow) were fantastic. And my TV has perfect colour balance across all content.

I don't care what people say. The screenshot comparisons highly misrepresent what the FOTR EE actually looks like regarding the supposed "green tint."

As for my 99% statement earlier? You ask everyone that has a Blu-ray player and HDTV to watch both and I would put money on 95%-99% would say, "What are you talking about? There is no green tint."

[Femmeslover]

i know $50 is already a great price for this but does anybody think it will go down to $30 or $40?

[mzupeman]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

The green tint DOES NOT EXIST on my sceen and has never existed! I made several comparisons of FOTR environment colours to real-life environment colours while watching it. Blue skies out my window matched the blue skies on s screen PERFECTLY. Tree greens on screen were the same as that of the trees out my window. Whites (snow) were fantastic. And my TV has perfect colour balance across all content.

I don't care what people say. The screenshot comparisons highly misrepresent what the FOTR EE actually looks like regarding the supposed "green tint."

As for my 99% statement earlier? You ask everyone that has a Blu-ray player and HDTV to watch both and I would put money on 95%-99% would say, "What are you talking about? There is no green tint."

I'm going to repeat what I said earlier, which is this:

The green tint is there. You may not notice it's there because the entirety of the film has this, and when watching the film from beginning to end, you never notice it because that's how everything looks contextually. It looks natural. Many many movies use colored tints in a similar way, and the green tint gives FOTR a dark foreboding tone that suits it well.

That being said, I don't mind it as long as it was Jackson's intention.

But just because you don't notice it, doesn't mean it isn't there. It is. Period.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

The green tint DOES NOT EXIST on my sceen and has never existed! I made several comparisons of FOTR environment colours to real-life environment colours while watching it. Blue skies out my window matched the blue skies on s screen PERFECTLY. Tree greens on screen were the same as that of the trees out my window. Whites (snow) were fantastic. And my TV has perfect colour balance across all content.

I don't care what people say. The screenshot comparisons highly misrepresent what the FOTR EE actually looks like regarding the supposed "green tint."

As for my 99% statement earlier? You ask everyone that has a Blu-ray player and HDTV to watch both and I would put money on 95%-99% would say, "What are you talking about? There is no green tint."

I took these with my ASUS BD drive using a 21.5" calibrated 1080p HP monitor. No green tint you say? Have a look below.

[Show spoiler]

[Constitution 101]

Originally Posted by Drew664

Interesting discussion on that a movie actually outdid a book. I do not think so in these movies, but they certianly helped paint the picture. Imagination plays a huge part in what the reader sees, so for some people, I could see it as the movie being the better version. Not for me though!

Agreed. I was inspired by the movies to read the books(the 1st fictional books I had read in 30yrs, which speaks to their greatness). I have to say I enjoyed the movies a little more. I felt there was some unnecessary info the books(Bombadil, etc.) that seemed out of place. Keep in mind though that these were written b4 our eyes got so saturated/accustomed to computer-generated special effects. Watching the films the second time AFTER reading the books was a phenomenal movie-watching experience for me. Some of the extra material the books had greatly enhanced the films for me, most of it not so much(save for the scouring of the Shire).

[kemcha]

I'm still trying to work myself up to watching the Blu-ray boxed set. JI've just watched this trilogy so many times that watching it again for the full 10-12 hours isn't something I'm looking forward to.

lols

It took a stretch to watch Gettysburg straight through for that 4-5 hours.

lols

[Roy Batty]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

The green tint DOES NOT EXIST on my sceen and has never existed! I made several comparisons of FOTR environment colours to real-life environment colours while watching it. Blue skies out my window matched the blue skies on s screen PERFECTLY. Tree greens on screen were the same as that of the trees out my window. Whites (snow) were fantastic. And my TV has perfect colour balance across all content.

I don't care what people say. The screenshot comparisons highly misrepresent what the FOTR EE actually looks like regarding the supposed "green tint."

As for my 99% statement earlier? You ask everyone that has a Blu-ray player and HDTV to watch both and I would put money on 95%-99% would say, "What are you talking about? There is no green tint."

There is no spoon...

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by mzupeman

I'm going to repeat what I said earlier, which is this:

The green tint is there. You may not notice it's there because the entirety of the film has this, and when watching the film from beginning to end, you never notice it because that's how everything looks contextually. It looks natural. Many many movies use colored tints in a similar way, and the green tint gives FOTR a dark foreboding tone that suits it well.

That being said, I don't mind it as long as it was Jackson's intention.

But just because you don't notice it, doesn't mean it isn't there. It is. Period.

I applaud your ability to read only the firs sentence of my post.

I said that I used REAL LIFE NATURAL COLOURS AS COMPARISON TO MY SCREEN DURING VIEWING! The blue skies outside my window right next to my TV proved identical. Likewise with the other colours. Most people (and the internet screenshot comparisons) reference the skies as being an ugly teal colour.

Had I been making my statement strictly on a viewing without any reference other than the presentation, I would agree that it could be going unnoticed due to the effect you mention. But, that just isn't the case.

[mzupeman]

I read the rest of your post, but there are a bunch of variables that go into play when it comes to what you're looking at. You can look out your window and look at your set, fine. If you see the same exact thing, then perhaps your set needs calibration.

I'm not even arguing about the green tint... I actually think it suits the film in MOST shots. However, your argument is that it's not there at all, and it is. You don't have a copy of the disc any different than mine, or anyone elses. You have the same thing, which is a film that has green tint. This is not up for a debate. Screen grabs of the theatrical cut vs the extended show quite clearly that an alteration has been, mistakenly or not. This has been discussed ad neauseum and there's no arguing that it's there.

The argument is strictly whether or not it's intentionally done by Jackson or not.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by mzupeman

I read the rest of your post, but there are a bunch of variables that go into play when it comes to what you're looking at. You can look out your window and look at your set, fine. If you see the same exact thing, then perhaps your set needs calibration.

I'm not even arguing about the green tint... I actually think it suits the film in MOST shots. However, your argument is that it's not there at all, and it is. You don't have a copy of the disc any different than mine, or anyone elses. You have the same thing, which is a film that has green tint. This is not up for a debate. Screen grabs of the theatrical cut vs the extended show quite clearly that an alteration has been, mistakenly or not. This has been discussed ad neauseum and there's no arguing that it's there.

The argument is strictly whether or not it's intentionally done by Jackson or not.

Actually, I'm not stating that it does not exist. I'm stating that it does not exist for me. Which, ultimately, is just me trying to keep people from making a decision based on the internet comparisons. Many people have come into this thread and stated that the internet comparisons are a night and day difference from the actual effect seen on their screens.

All I'm trying to do is get people to take the screenshots with a massive grain of salt so they can judge for themselves. Too many have stated they won't even give it a chance because of the screenshots... which is ridiculous.

[mrpink134]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

I took these with my ASUS BD drive using a 21.5" calibrated 1080p HP monitor. No green tint you say? Have a look below.

[Show spoiler]

Wow you took those pics? Looks like the same grabs that was posted months ago? Hmmm maybe you just reposted the same grabs

[mzupeman]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

Actually, I'm not stating that it does not exist. I'm stating that it does not exist for me. Which, ultimately, is just me trying to keep people from making a decision based on the internet comparisons. Many people have come into this thread and stated that the internet comparisons are a night and day difference from the actual effect seen on their screens.

All I'm trying to do is get people to take the screenshots with a massive grain of salt so they can judge for themselves. Too many have stated they won't even give it a chance because of the screenshots... which is ridiculous.

I most certainly agree with you on your last point. It is ridiculous. As I've said before, the reason why it's so night and day when looking online, is because we have the 'correct' version to look at side-by-side with the newly tinted version. At that point, it seems really silly that such a change was made. But when viewing without comparisons, it works really well, for the most part. People really should view it for themselves and then decide.

[TylerDurden]

Originally Posted by Femmeslover

i know $50 is already a great price for this but does anybody think it will go down to $30 or $40?

Already hit the $40 mark at Frys during a 1 day sale before thanksgiving.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by mrpink134

Wow you took those pics? Looks like the same grabs that was posted months ago? Hmmm maybe you just reposted the same grabs

That's because I put them up months ago. I assure you that I took those screen caps myself.

[Gold Ranger]

Whats funny is with those screencaps, I was able to go to the exact point of the movie and I NOW see the tint.
The funny part is that after watching for a few minutes, you start to not notice it at all... I guess thats why i never noticed at first, cause i watched from the beginning credits... but just jumping to a specific scene you will notice it...