The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

I am guessing that its around the dwarf toss scene.

I'm not noticing anything out of the ordinary. I've compared the EE and TE and they were the same.

[42041]

Originally Posted by joliefan

If they have the original negative then they can scan it at 4k

Well yes, but you understand that you're not seeing the straight original negative in much of the film, right? Gollum ain't on the negative The three extended films have something like 3500 effects shots combined, composited and rendered in glorious 2K. I'm just saying, unless any future 4K format sees wide adoption, I wouldn't get too excited.

[Brightstar]

Originally Posted by AreaUnderTheCurve

I believe this was said in the EE commentary by Jackson. I believe it was about an anniversary release.

yes he said for the 25th anniversary release that's 2025 The following where left out from the EE SETS

The Fellowship of the Ring contained an attack by Orcs from Moria on Lothlórien after the Fellowship leaves Moria, replaced with a more suspenseful entrance for the Fellowship. Also cut were scenes from the book, including Frodo seeing more of Middle-earth at Parth Galen and an extended Council of Elrond,[10] and new scenes with an attack upon Frodo and Sam at the river Anduin by an Uruk-hai.[10] The major cut to The Two Towers featured Arwen and Elrond visiting Galadriel at Lothlórien, with Arwen then leading the Elven reinforcements to Helm's Deep.[13] This scene, and a flashback to Arwen and Aragorn's first meeting, was cut during a revision of the film's plot; the Elves' appearance was explained with a telepathic communication between Elrond and Galadriel.[13] Éowyn was to have a greater role in defending the refugees in the Glittering Caves from Uruk-hai intruders,[29] while in Osgiliath, Faramir was to have a vision of Frodo becoming like Gollum,[13] with Frodo and Sam having an extended fight sequence.[30] Filmed for The Return of the King were two scenes present in the book; Sam using the Phial of Galadriel to pass the Watchers at Cirith Ungol, and further epilogue footage, with endings for Legolas and Gimli, Éowyn and Faramir's wedding and Aragorn's death and funeral


many filmed scenes remain unused including Battle of the Black Gate in ROTK !

[laz305]

wow I would of bought that chess set If anybody has it for retail value I'll buy it.

[R3P0]

Originally Posted by joliefan

yes he said for the 25th anniversary release that's 2025 The following where left out from the EE SETS

The Fellowship of the Ring contained an attack by Orcs from Moria on Lothlórien after the Fellowship leaves Moria, replaced with a more suspenseful entrance for the Fellowship. Also cut were scenes from the book, including Frodo seeing more of Middle-earth at Parth Galen and an extended Council of Elrond,[10] and new scenes with an attack upon Frodo and Sam at the river Anduin by an Uruk-hai.[10] The major cut to The Two Towers featured Arwen and Elrond visiting Galadriel at Lothlórien, with Arwen then leading the Elven reinforcements to Helm's Deep.[13] This scene, and a flashback to Arwen and Aragorn's first meeting, was cut during a revision of the film's plot; the Elves' appearance was explained with a telepathic communication between Elrond and Galadriel.[13] Éowyn was to have a greater role in defending the refugees in the Glittering Caves from Uruk-hai intruders,[29] while in Osgiliath, Faramir was to have a vision of Frodo becoming like Gollum,[13] with Frodo and Sam having an extended fight sequence.[30] Filmed for The Return of the King were two scenes present in the book; Sam using the Phial of Galadriel to pass the Watchers at Cirith Ungol, and further epilogue footage, with endings for Legolas and Gimli, Éowyn and Faramir's wedding and Aragorn's death and funeral


many filmed scenes remain unused including Battle of the Black Gate in ROTK !

LOL nice pull off Wiki there, anything off Wiki cannot be confirmed all we know for sure is there is more footage not used and discussions of an ultimate edition possibly being released with all unused footage.

[Brightstar]

One day it might happen but for now the EE will have to do

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by R3P0

LOL nice pull off Wiki there, anything off Wiki cannot be confirmed all we know for sure is there is more footage not used and discussions of an ultimate edition possibly being released with all unused footage.

It is sourced. Some of those appear in the appendices bonus features and during commentary.

[ManWithNoUsername]

I finally saw the EE's for the first time. I must be one of the only people that actually prefer the TE's over the EE's. I felt like most of the extended scenes were a bit corny, didn't seem to fit well ruining the flow and slowing down the the story. I totally understood why they were cut out initially.

The BDs look great. About as good as I expected, but in a way kind of wish I bought the TE's. I skipped them when they came out since I wanted to see the EE's anyway, and now it turns out I like the original versions more. Kinda burned myself there. Could have saved a bit of money just going with the TE's.

[Oscarilbo]

Originally Posted by 42041

Well yes, but you understand that you're not seeing the straight original negative in much of the film, right? Gollum ain't on the negative The three extended films have something like 3500 effects shots combined, composited and rendered in glorious 2K. I'm just saying, unless any future 4K format sees wide adoption, I wouldn't get too excited.

Well... Cameron did Titanic and of course Peter Jackson did The Lord of the Rings... Now.. if Cameron did a 4K remaster of Titanic, then Peter Jackson can do a 4K remaster of The Lord of the Rings... period

[42041]

Originally Posted by Oscarilbo

Well... Cameron did Titanic and of course Peter Jackson did The Lord of the Rings... Now.. if Cameron did a 4K remaster of Titanic, then Peter Jackson can do a 4K remaster of The Lord of the Rings... period

Difference is, Titanic did not have a digital cinema master. They HAD to re-scan it. Titanic's (much fewer) digital effects scenes were not touched up and stuck out pretty badly on the IMAX screen. I'm not sure if this is an accurate figure but I remember reading that something like 75% of the Lord of the Rings films' runtime has some kind of digital element on screen.

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by ManWithNoUsername

I finally saw the EE's for the first time. I must be one of the only people that actually prefer the TE's over the EE's. I felt like most of the extended scenes were a bit corny, didn't seem to fit well ruining the flow and slowing down the the story. I totally understood why they were cut out initially.

The BDs look great. About as good as I expected, but in a way kind of wish I bought the TE's. I skipped them when they came out since I wanted to see the EE's anyway, and now it turns out I like the original versions more. Kinda burned myself there. Could have saved a bit of money just going with the TE's.

You would have gotten inferior transfers detail wise with FotR and TTT. The former is painfully distracting.

[whitearrow]

Originally Posted by joliefan

yes he said for the 25th anniversary release that's 2025 The following where left out from the EE SETS

The Fellowship of the Ring contained an attack by Orcs from Moria on Lothlórien after the Fellowship leaves Moria, replaced with a more suspenseful entrance for the Fellowship. Also cut were scenes from the book, including Frodo seeing more of Middle-earth at Parth Galen and an extended Council of Elrond,[10] and new scenes with an attack upon Frodo and Sam at the river Anduin by an Uruk-hai.[10] The major cut to The Two Towers featured Arwen and Elrond visiting Galadriel at Lothlórien, with Arwen then leading the Elven reinforcements to Helm's Deep.[13] This scene, and a flashback to Arwen and Aragorn's first meeting, was cut during a revision of the film's plot; the Elves' appearance was explained with a telepathic communication between Elrond and Galadriel.[13] Éowyn was to have a greater role in defending the refugees in the Glittering Caves from Uruk-hai intruders,[29] while in Osgiliath, Faramir was to have a vision of Frodo becoming like Gollum,[13] with Frodo and Sam having an extended fight sequence.[30] Filmed for The Return of the King were two scenes present in the book; Sam using the Phial of Galadriel to pass the Watchers at Cirith Ungol, and further epilogue footage, with endings for Legolas and Gimli, Éowyn and Faramir's wedding and Aragorn's death and funeral

A lot of this stuff simply couldn't be put back in, as the scenes were deleted due to plot revisions and would make no sense if they were simply dropped back in. Things like Arwen at Helm's Deep, for example, are "unused scene" material only. Aragorn's death is 120 years in the future and its implications are covered in TTT scene between Elrond and Arwen.

I would love to see the scene with Aragorn and Arwen's first meeting, and I'm vaguely hoping it ends up in The Hobbit, though I sort of doubt it will.

[ManWithNoUsername]

Originally Posted by AreaUnderTheCurve

You would have gotten inferior transfers detail wise with FotR and TTT. The former is painfully distracting.

Ah, I didnt even know that. Guess I didnt make a bad decision then.

[MacEachaidh]

Originally Posted by joliefan

One day it might happen but for now the EE will have to do

We're mixing up apples and oranges here, though. The items you listed from Wikipedia were allegedly filmed footage that didn't make it into the final cut(s), whereas the quoted article on OneRing.net was talking about making-of footage that would be added to the supplementary material ("The tone of these materials is not so much about filmmaking process – as we already covered that – but instead about the experience of living and making these films"). It doesn't mention footage that would be added back into the actual films.

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by ManWithNoUsername

Ah, I didnt even know that. Guess I didnt make a bad decision then.

I believe TTT and RotK theatrical Blu-rays are worth picking up, especially the latter. I recall no imperfections. The TTT is uneven in that the first 45 minutes are so are gorgeous and then the DNR comes in as soon as you get to Rohan. FotR is like this too, but so much worse.

[ManWithNoUsername]

Originally Posted by AreaUnderTheCurve

The TTT is uneven in that the first 45 minutes are so are gorgeous and then the DNR comes in as soon as you get to Rohan. FotR is like this too, but so much worse.

Wait, which version are you talking about there, TE or EE? Because right before that you said TTT and RotK look great all the way through. Confused.

[motorheadache95]

Originally Posted by ManWithNoUsername

I finally saw the EE's for the first time. I must be one of the only people that actually prefer the TE's over the EE's. I felt like most of the extended scenes were a bit corny, didn't seem to fit well ruining the flow and slowing down the the story. I totally understood why they were cut out initially.

The BDs look great. About as good as I expected, but in a way kind of wish I bought the TE's. I skipped them when they came out since I wanted to see the EE's anyway, and now it turns out I like the original versions more. Kinda burned myself there. Could have saved a bit of money just going with the TE's.

While I prefer the EE's myself, I could totally see some people preferring the theatrical cuts. Fellowship in particular I thought the pacing was a bit off at the beginning before the plot really got going. However, at this point I've seen the EE so many times (the only versions I've ever purchased), I think if I went back and watched the theatrical version now, I would just be distracted at all the missing scenes.

The one film of the three I REALLY feel is massively superior in the extended cut is Two Towers, though. That cut actually fills in a lot of holes in the story-- a couple of examples are the horse that rescues Aragorn, and the explanation for Faromir's motivations and actions towards Frodo and Sam.

[Brightstar]

Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

We're mixing up apples and oranges here, though. The items you listed from Wikipedia were allegedly filmed footage that didn't make it into the final cut(s), whereas the quoted article on OneRing.net was talking about making-of footage that would be added to the supplementary material ("The tone of these materials is not so much about filmmaking process – as we already covered that – but instead about the experience of living and making these films"). It doesn't mention footage that would be added back into the actual films.

whats this talk of a ultimate set then ? I can understand the hobbit been included

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by ManWithNoUsername

Wait, which version are you talking about there, TE or EE? Because right before that you said TTT and RotK look great all the way through. Confused.

"I recall no imperfections" is in reference to RotK.

[Brightstar]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

While I prefer the EE's myself, I could totally see some people preferring the theatrical cuts. Fellowship in particular I thought the pacing was a bit off at the beginning before the plot really got going. However, at this point I've seen the EE so many times (the only versions I've ever purchased), I think if I went back and watched the theatrical version now, I would just be distracted at all the missing scenes.

The one film of the three I REALLY feel is massively superior in the extended cut is Two Towers, though. That cut actually fills in a lot of holes in the story-- a couple of examples are the horse that rescues Aragorn, and the explanation for Faromir's motivations and actions towards Frodo and Sam.

the scene where the horse that rescues Aragorn is in the TE as well as the EE