The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[ManWithNoUsername]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

While I prefer the EE's myself, I could totally see some people preferring the theatrical cuts. Fellowship in particular I thought the pacing was a bit off at the beginning before the plot really got going. However, at this point I've seen the EE so many times (the only versions I've ever purchased), I think if I went back and watched the theatrical version now, I would just be distracted at all the missing scenes.

The one film of the three I REALLY feel is massively superior in the extended cut is Two Towers, though. That cut actually fills in a lot of holes in the story-- a couple of examples are the horse that rescues Aragorn, and the explanation for Faromir's motivations and actions towards Frodo and Sam.

Yeah some of that stuff was definitely useful, but there's a lot of scenes like when it shows Merry getting taller. That was so useless and really felt shoehorned in there. Scenes like that just feel like cutting room floor scenes. There was a bunch of that in the extended versions, but I agree some of it makes it worth it.

[motorheadache95]

Originally Posted by joliefan

the scene where the horse that rescues Aragorn is in the TE as well as the EE

Oh yeah I should have explained what I meant better. There is a scene before that (extended cut only) where the horse if having a panic attack, and Aragorn calms it down and tells them to let it go because it has seen too much war. That freed horse then later rescues him. I think it works a lot better than "and then a random horse shows up and takes him to Helms Deep."

[Brightstar]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

Oh yeah I should have explained what I meant better. There is a scene before that (extended cut only) where the horse if having a panic attack, and Aragorn calms it down and tells them to let it go because it has seen too much war. That freed horse then later rescues him. I think it works a lot better than "and then a random horse shows up and takes him to Helms Deep."

yes that's the one and a few others TTT is the best example to see the EE so much is improved over the TE

[ManWithNoUsername]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

Oh yeah I should have explained what I meant better. There is a scene before that (extended cut only) where the horse if having a panic attack, and Aragorn calms it down and tells them to let it go because it has seen too much war. That freed horse then later rescues him. I think it works a lot better than "and then a random horse shows up and takes him to Helms Deep."

Lol, I didnt even realize that was the same horse.

[Brightstar]

IN ROTK when frodo and sam are walking with the orcs that scene is useless it just slows it right down

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

ManWithNoUsername: How do you feel about the inclusion of Beren and Luthien's story and how it ties into Aragorn's own with Arwen?

[motorheadache95]

Originally Posted by ManWithNoUsername

Yeah some of that stuff was definitely useful, but there's a lot of scenes like when it shows Merry getting taller. That was so useless and really felt shoehorned in there. Scenes like that just feel like cutting room floor scenes. There was a bunch of that in the extended versions, but I agree some of it makes it worth it.

Yeah, I agree. There are definitely some scenes that I don't think were necessary like that one. But for me there's always something crucial in the EE that I think is sorely missing in the theatrical cuts. In RotK it's seeing the final fate of Saruman towards the beginning.

The other thing I like about the Extended Cuts is viewing the films more like a six-part miniseries than three really lengthy films. That helps a lot with the pacing as well-- thinking of each disc as one complete part of the story before taking a breather and then moving on to the next part. Peter Jackson refers to the theatricals as "his director's cuts," and I think that is because he specifically cut the theatrical films to be watched in a single sitting, in both the theater and at home. The Extended Cuts are not designed for that, pacing wise.

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by joliefan

IN ROTK when frodo and sam are walking with the orcs that scene is useless it just slows it right down

It explains how they got so far as they did without detection. The TE only has them in the orc garb noting how many orcs they have to get through. There's a cut to Gandalf and the others talking, and then a cut to Sam and Frodo wandering around with none of Sauron's forces present. It's a great addition, I think.

[Brightstar]

Originally Posted by AreaUnderTheCurve

ManWithNoUsername: How do you feel about the inclusion of Beren and Luthien's story and how it ties into Aragorn's own with Arwen?

well i feel sorry for Eowyn she liked aragon but married formire instead

[ACMutd]

Originally Posted by joliefan

well i feel sorry for Eowyn she liked aragon but married formire instead

Who's formire?

[Brightstar]

I ment Faramir

[dcowboy7]

Im really into commentaries so i like the 12 commentaries that are on the EE that arent on the TE.

[ACMutd]

Originally Posted by dcowboy7

Im really into commentaries so i like the 12 commentaries that are on the EE that arent on the TE.

There is only 4 commentaries

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by ACMutd

There is only 4 commentaries

12 counting all three movies.

[goldenrod]

4 commentaries / movie = 12

too slow

[ACMutd]

Originally Posted by AreaUnderTheCurve

12 counting all three movies.

Well, yea. At first I was thinking 12 different ones for each film. Which would be cool.

[KubrickFan]

Originally Posted by ACMutd

Well, yea. At first I was thinking 12 different ones for each film. Which would be cool.

I would think that they pretty much covered everything in those four commentaries .

[ACMutd]

Originally Posted by KubrickFan

I would think that they pretty much covered everything in those four commentaries .

No way! I WANT MORE
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[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by joliefan

yes he said for the 25th anniversary release that's 2025 The following where left out from the EE SETS

The Fellowship of the Ring contained an attack by Orcs from Moria on Lothlórien after the Fellowship leaves Moria, replaced with a more suspenseful entrance for the Fellowship. Also cut were scenes from the book, including Frodo seeing more of Middle-earth at Parth Galen and an extended Council of Elrond,[10] and new scenes with an attack upon Frodo and Sam at the river Anduin by an Uruk-hai.[10] The major cut to The Two Towers featured Arwen and Elrond visiting Galadriel at Lothlórien, with Arwen then leading the Elven reinforcements to Helm's Deep.[13] This scene, and a flashback to Arwen and Aragorn's first meeting, was cut during a revision of the film's plot; the Elves' appearance was explained with a telepathic communication between Elrond and Galadriel.[13] Éowyn was to have a greater role in defending the refugees in the Glittering Caves from Uruk-hai intruders,[29] while in Osgiliath, Faramir was to have a vision of Frodo becoming like Gollum,[13] with Frodo and Sam having an extended fight sequence.[30] Filmed for The Return of the King were two scenes present in the book; Sam using the Phial of Galadriel to pass the Watchers at Cirith Ungol, and further epilogue footage, with endings for Legolas and Gimli, Éowyn and Faramir's wedding and Aragorn's death and funeral

many filmed scenes remain unused including Battle of the Black Gate in ROTK !

Originally Posted by R3P0

LOL nice pull off Wiki there, anything off Wiki cannot be confirmed all we know for sure is there is more footage not used and discussions of an ultimate edition possibly being released with all unused footage.

I believe the reason that most of those scenes were not included even into the extended version was because they deviated excessively from the original story. As self-admitted "Tolkien fans", it would have been a huge mistake for Jackson and Boyen to include these scenes - regardless of how well filmed they were - into the movie.

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by joliefan

yes he said for the 25th anniversary release that's 2025 The following where left out from the EE SETS

The Fellowship of the Ring contained an attack by Orcs from Moria on Lothlórien after the Fellowship leaves Moria, replaced with a more suspenseful entrance for the Fellowship. Also cut were scenes from the book, including Frodo seeing more of Middle-earth at Parth Galen and an extended Council of Elrond,[10] and new scenes with an attack upon Frodo and Sam at the river Anduin by an Uruk-hai.[10] The major cut to The Two Towers featured Arwen and Elrond visiting Galadriel at Lothlórien, with Arwen then leading the Elven reinforcements to Helm's Deep.[13] This scene, and a flashback to Arwen and Aragorn's first meeting, was cut during a revision of the film's plot; the Elves' appearance was explained with a telepathic communication between Elrond and Galadriel.[13] Éowyn was to have a greater role in defending the refugees in the Glittering Caves from Uruk-hai intruders,[29] while in Osgiliath, Faramir was to have a vision of Frodo becoming like Gollum,[13] with Frodo and Sam having an extended fight sequence.[30] Filmed for The Return of the King were two scenes present in the book; Sam using the Phial of Galadriel to pass the Watchers at Cirith Ungol, and further epilogue footage, with endings for Legolas and Gimli, Éowyn and Faramir's wedding and Aragorn's death and funeral

many filmed scenes remain unused including Battle of the Black Gate in ROTK !

Originally Posted by R3P0

LOL nice pull off Wiki there, anything off Wiki cannot be confirmed all we know for sure is there is more footage not used and discussions of an ultimate edition possibly being released with all unused footage.

I believe the reason that most of those scenes were not included even into the extended version was because they deviated excessively from the original story. As self-admitted "Tolkien fans", it would have been a huge mistake for Jackson and Boyen to include these scenes - regardless of how well filmed they were - into the movie.