The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[chip75]

Originally Posted by clerk3745

But since I bought it when it came out a year and half ago I can't return or even exchange it. Please help.

Try it on a friends player/home cinema if you have a chance first but I'd contact the distributor (I think it's New Line in the US), so you'll go through Warner Bros. ask them nicely for a replacement. If they say no and you're a gambler order the individual release swap the discs and return it as faulty.

I'd only do that if Warner Bros. say they can't help you though. If you bought it from Amazon you could contact them first as they might help as a good will gesture.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

True, but they were post-produced separately, and the technologies involved in colour grading changed over that time. So FotR was handled differently from the two subsequent films.

People will try to tell you that it's just your system not being calibrated correctly, completely ignoring the fact that most people who've claimed that still have to use different settings on their display between FotR and the other two (hmm, could that possibly mean that they're substantially different after all? No, of course not! It's the people who see the green tint who are ignoring the evidence!!), or will claim that this is the result of artistic intent (ignoring the fact that the only official statement about the issue acknowledged that the differences are an attempt to address problems in the original colour grading of the first film, and said nothing about the Director or DP wanting it to look this way) ... but I'm mostly puzzled by the fact that these people can't simply say, "meh, I'm happy with it the way it is", rather than inventing baseless rhetoric to "prove" that the people unhappy with this release must absolutely be wrong in all they say. That, I think, is where the obsession lies in this whole debate.

I agree with you and others who have said the look of Rivendell is better in the EE release than the preceding one, though with the deadening effect on colour tones that the green tint lends, it does look to me this time round as if all the foliage in Rivendell is dead or dying. I'm sure that wasn't the intent of the original art design.

I will just say this. The vast majority of people who have had their display grayscale properly calibrated by a pro to 6500K (and they are probably a minority) will not see the teal/green as much of an issue. A lot of displays will have grayscales that naturally drift over time towards green, so this is only going to make matters worse. As I mentioned previously, I have watched this on two different ISF calibrated displays (one an SXRD, the other a 2011 Panasonic plasma) and there was no real problem. Do some scenes in particular have a slight hint towards teal? Yes. I was looking very closely at every scene and sometimes there is that green bias, but seriously, it's so slight that it's not an issue on a properly calibrated display. What does become apparent is how much superior the EE version looks compared to the TE version. The EE version looks like pure film and has a very "organic" look (i.e, no visible annoying digital artifacts like DNR and EE, etc.). The TE looks more processed by comparison.

[Midnight Rambler]

Originally Posted by Simondio

Are there any extras on the $10 Target EEs at all? I won't find out until Christmas. Right now they are sitting in my Christmas stocking.

Just four commentaries for each movie ...

[gettodamoofies]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

I will just say this. The vast majority of people who have had their display grayscale properly calibrated by a pro to 6500K (and they are probably a minority) will not see the teal/green as much of an issue. A lot of displays will have grayscales that naturally drift over time towards green, so this is only going to make matters worse. As I mentioned previously, I have watched this on two different ISF calibrated displays (one an SXRD, the other a 2011 Panasonic plasma) and there was no real problem. Do some scenes in particular have a slight hint towards teal? Yes. I was looking very closely at every scene and sometimes there is that green bias, but seriously, it's so slight that it's not an issue on a properly calibrated display. What does become apparent is how much superior the EE version looks compared to the TE version. The EE version looks like pure film and has a very "organic" look (i.e, no visible annoying digital artifacts like DNR and EE, etc.). The TE looks more processed by comparison.

Yes, the lack of digital tinkering via way of DNR certainly results in a more film-like image. Having said that, this whole "if it's calibrated properly you won't notice it as much" statement is just plain frustrating because two of my three home theatre setups have been professionally calibrated (didn't bother with the one for the kids) by Alex Ralph of Ultimate Home Theatres (they're in Sydney Australia). Watching FOTR and then TTT back to back makes it plainly obvious. It's significantly different with pure white coming off a slight shale/green greyish colour on FOTR.

It always seems to lead back to "well, if you can see it then it MUST be your display". Unfortunately, no. What's on the disc is what's on the disc. How you've got your display calibrated may help or hinder the cause but if it's there it will show up. It's there on calibrated displays too. As a matter of fact, I'd actually argue that on a calibrated display it may even be MORE obvious. As some home done calibrations often result in something trending towards good old "torch mode" that'll actually blow out the whites and make them appear more pure than they really are on the disc. Sure it won't help with the tint so much but it'll definitely make the whites appear whiter.

[retablo]

It's interesting to me... I KNOW iphone shots of TVs aren't fully representative of a screenshot (before that starts getting thrown around) but this shot I just took for comparison does look almost exactly like it looks to my eye. Interestingly, my TV is NOT professionally calibrated and this is how the snow scene looks on my Panasonic plasma...



compared to the "actual" screenshot from the disc.



Dunno, but on my TV, the whites looks pretty white to me, and if anything it's slightly too blue... maybe you all shouldn't be professionally calibrating your monitors, Lol.

[I-C-Blue]

^lol I'm already planning on calibrating the picture to fit how I remembered Fellowship. Or simply by using a warm/cool filter - whichever will be necessary.

[JamesKurtovich]

You can eliminate a lot of the tint by simply switching your picture mode. I'm looking at screenshots of FOTR on my work laptop and they don't look nearly as green as they did on my home PC... the snow is white. I guess I'll be watching it in "Standard" as opposed to "Movie."

Put one of those screenshots into Photoshop and hit "Auto Contrast" and you get what it should have looked like!

[retablo]

Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

You can eliminate a lot of the tint by simply switching your picture mode. I'm looking at screenshots of FOTR on my work laptop and they don't look nearly as green as they did on my home PC... the snow is white. I guess I'll be watching it in "Standard" as opposed to "Movie."

Well, you should never use "movie" mode or any more on a TV anyway. Just like you should never adjust your sharpness, etc.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by retablo

Well, you should never use "movie" mode or any more on a TV anyway.

All of the modes are worthless. Movie, Sports, and Standard modes are all wrong. Virtually all HDTVs nowadays have recommended ISF Calibration settings and they are relatively easy to find using a search engine. All three of my HDTVs are setup this way and I couldn't be happier with their respective images.

[retablo]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

All of the modes are worthless. Movie, Sports, and Standard modes are all wrong. Virtually all HDTVs nowadays have recommended ISF Calibration settings and they are relatively easy to find using a search engine. All three of my HDTVs are setup this way and I couldn't be happier with their respective images.

How much green do you see on FOTR? I was kinda amazed because i haven't watched the blus, but I just put it in to see hw it looked on my TV and, to my eye, there's hardly any green on mine. And all other discs looks great to my eye as well, so...

[JamesKurtovich]

I don't use the pre-set modes that came with my TV, but my "Movie" mode has all the settings that I found on the Internet for my model.

[Thesis]

Guys, I just recently bought all 3 films as steelbooks at Best Buy. I wanted to know if I should keep them or should I return them and get the extended set instead? Any differences besides the packaging? Are the steelbooks extended editions as well?

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by retablo

How much green do you see on FOTR? I was kinda amazed because i haven't watched the blus, but I just put it in to see hw it looked on my TV and, to my eye, there's hardly any green on mine. And all other discs looks great to my eye as well, so...

On my displays it's not very noticeable except in the shire scenes at the beginning of the film and during the scenes involving snow.

[retablo]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

On my displays it's not very noticeable except in the shire scenes at the beginning of the film and during the scenes involving snow.

So you see more green than in the picture I posted of my screen?

I just think it's weird, I've never calibrated anything and there's little to no green in that snow.

[42041]

Originally Posted by retablo

How much green do you see on FOTR? I was kinda amazed because i haven't watched the blus, but I just put it in to see hw it looked on my TV and, to my eye, there's hardly any green on mine. And all other discs looks great to my eye as well, so...

The Caradharas snow is not green at all when I'm viewing it in my HT (that is, not staring at screenshots in my internet browser). It is bluish-white like the picture you posted, or completely white in other shots. The only major scene I remember with a visible green tint is the second breakfast scene.

[retablo]

Originally Posted by 42041

The Caradharas snow is not green at all when I'm viewing it in my HT (that is, not starting at screenshots in my internet browser). It is bluish-white like the picture you posted, or completely white in other shots. The only major scene I remember with a visible green tint is the second breakfast scene.

I could check mine, but I don't even know what the second breakfast scene is, lol. I'm not a huge fan of the movies but I assume it's toward the beginning?

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by retablo

I could check mine, but I don't even know what the second breakfast scene is, lol. I'm not a huge fan of the movies but I assume it's toward the beginning?

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

All of the modes are worthless. Movie, Sports, and Standard modes are all wrong. Virtually all HDTVs nowadays have recommended ISF Calibration settings and they are relatively easy to find using a search engine. All three of my HDTVs are setup this way and I couldn't be happier with their respective images.

I haven't been able to find anything for mey Samsung LN40D630. I used CNET's recommended settings. I have to choose one of the four modes on my TV: Dynamic, Standard, Natural, or movie.

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by Thesis

Guys, I just recently bought all 3 films as steelbooks at Best Buy. I wanted to know if I should keep them or should I return them and get the extended set instead? Any differences besides the packaging? Are the steelbooks extended editions as well?

The steelbooks are the theatrical cuts. You'll have two movies riddled with digital manipulation and one that looks stellar (FotR, TTT, and Rotk respectively)

[faglun]

Originally Posted by AreaUnderTheCurve

The steelbooks are the theatrical cuts. You'll have two movies riddled with digital manipulation and one that looks stellar (FotR, TTT, and Rotk respectively)

ever since I have been reading up on this stupid tint issue Its embedded in my brain never to leave - I always notice it now lmao