The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by AreaUnderTheCurve

I haven't been able to find anything for mey Samsung LN40D630. I used CNET's recommended settings. I have to choose one of the four modes on my TV: Dynamic, Standard, Natural, or movie.

Here you go: http://www.televisioninfo.com/conten...alibration.htm

Backlight 20
Contrast 92
Brightness 44
Sharpness 2
Color 33

I might play around with the contrast setting as 92 seems a bit high, but other than that it's got be pretty close.

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Here you go: http://www.televisioninfo.com/conten...alibration.htm

Backlight 20
Contrast 92
Brightness 44
Sharpness 2
Color 33

I might play around with the contrast setting as 92 seems a bit high, but other than that it's got be pretty close.

The CNET recommendations go into further detail, including the white balance and color space settings.

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Here you go: http://www.televisioninfo.com/conten...alibration.htm

Backlight 20
Contrast 92
Brightness 44
Sharpness 2
Color 33

I might play around with the contrast setting as 92 seems a bit high, but other than that it's got be pretty close.

I don't see anything for my 4 year old Panasonic TH-46PZ85U.

Is that info not available?

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[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

I don't see anything for my 4 year old Panasonic TH-46PZ85U.

Is that info not available?

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http://www.tweaktv.com/tweak-my-tv/c...h-46pz85u.html

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

I don't see anything for my 4 year old Panasonic VIERA TH-46PZ85U.

4 years old? Time for a new TV!

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

http://www.tweaktv.com/tweak-my-tv/c...h-46pz85u.html

Thanks Goofnut.

I did find that one earlier but was not confident about it. One things for sure though, that THX Optimizer ain't worth beans as I had my brightness set at +29 using it's 'drop shadow' test.

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

4 years old? Time for a new TV!

Yep. I have been thinking about getting a new one.

Should I go for a plasma again or a LCD instead?

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[MacEachaidh]

Originally Posted by 42041

How is one not the other? If they're correcting problems with the original transfer, then it seems to follow that the new version is closer to their desired look for the film

With respect, I don't think it follows at all.

There's no reason, or evidence, to imagine that what they've ended up with as a response to the misgrading of the original release is even close to what they might have wished for the film if the misgrading hadn't happened. The significant differences between the FotR transfer and the transfer of the other two films is evidence of that. The phrase "making the best of a bad lot" comes to mind.

The improvements over the transfer of the cinema versions were clearly intentional (and thank goodness!), but there is nothing at all to indicate that the way the EE of FotR looks overall is due to "artistic intent".

I'd say that goes both ways....
Hyperbolic nonsense and bogus reasoning should be challenged, because misinformation spreads like the plague over the internet.

So what is the misinformation in the other direction that you speak of?

You've posted about people claiming the DVD transfer as reference, but I honestly think that's a furphy, because I've never seen anyone actually say it other than the people who are rubbishing the idea. So it seems a straw man to me.

And yes, I am challenging hyperbolic nonsense and bogus reasoning, which is why I posted what I did. Even with professional calibration, FotR doesn't look like the other two transfers, so that puts paid to the "it's only your display settings" allegation. But what bogus reasoning is there coming from the "don't like the teal" camp? Can you point to any?

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

Yep. I have been thinking about getting a new one.

Should I go for a plasma again or a LCD instead?

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You can't go wrong either way. I'm a "go big" guy, and if I was in the market for a new TV, the Sharp 90" would be at the top of my list.

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Here you go: http://www.televisioninfo.com/conten...alibration.htm

Backlight 20
Contrast 92
Brightness 44
Sharpness 2
Color 33

I might play around with the contrast setting as 92 seems a bit high, but other than that it's got be pretty close.

So, I applied these settings and Caradhras looks so much better in comparison to CNET's recommended settings. However, backlight set to 20 seems excessive in a dark room.

New settings:



Old settings:

[Agent Bond]

It's interesting to me... I KNOW iphone shots of TVs aren't fully representative of a screenshot (before that starts getting thrown around) but this shot I just took for comparison does look almost exactly like it looks to my eye. Interestingly, my TV is NOT professionally calibrated and this is how the snow scene looks on my Panasonic plasma...

Damn, what kind of I-Phone you got?

[hljoo8]

When I finally made the switch to Blu-ray last October, I got rid of my Extended Edition DVDs to get some Blu-rays. I will gladly pick up this set as long as the transfers are great.

I have read that Fellowship doesn't look bad but it looks pretty terrible for about half of its running time. The most egregious example lies in Gandalf and Bilbo's conversation at Bag End. I have yet to see a BD transfer look worse than that. Fellowship is my favorite of the trilogy and I was extremely pissed that it looked so terrible. The Two Towers looks great for the first 30 or so minutes and then it takes a nosedive. Return of the King looks great so that one may not even be redone, assuming any remastering is performed.

I have since traded in the theatrical editions for other BDs.

[JamesKurtovich]

Got my FOTR last night. I kinda regret going overboard with the "green scare" and holding out on these. But I got them for $40, so it's all good.

Watched up until Frodo gets the Ring. So far I've only noticed a slight lack of contrast or some "black crush" as the pros call it. The sky isn't as blue as I'd like it to be, but other than that... nothing! All colors look genuine (to me) and I couldn't spot the green on the "Fellowship of the Ring" text in the beginning--although I could tell there was a tiny push to the green channel mainly because I was looking for it in the Shire scenery. I kept thinking about that side-by-side comparison video on YouTube and, man, that doesn't seem like an accurate representation at all. Detail is fine and looking great, but perhaps turning down the contrast/gamma on the entire movie was a bad move and will be rectified in future sets. It should be.. I want FOTR to "pop" like TT/ROTK.

Keep in mind, my TV is definitely not professionally calibrated. I used a list of recommended settings on the Internet. I think I'll do some more research and tweak it a bit more.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

Got my FOTR last night. I kinda regret going overboard with the "green scare" and holding out on these. But I got them for $40, so it's all good.

Watched up until Frodo gets the Ring. So far I've only noticed a slight lack of contrast or "black crush" as the pros call it. The sky isn't as blue as I'd like it to be, but other than that... nothing! All colors look genuine (to me) and I couldn't spot the green on the "Fellowship of the Ring" text in the beginning--although I could tell there was a tiny push to the green channel mainly because I was looking for it. I kept thinking about that side-by-side comparison video on YouTube and, man, that doesn't seem like an accurate representation at all. Detail is fine and looking great, but perhaps turning down the contrast/gamma on the entire movie was a bad move and will be rectified in future sets. Keep in mind, my TV is definitely not professionally calibrated. I used a list of recommended settings on the Internet. I think I'll do some more research and tweak it a bit more.

This is essentially what I was trying to say earlier although I see no issue with crushing or contrast.

I will try and post images tonight of the green screencaps well all see on our PC monitor compared to what I am seeing on my ISF'd plasma.

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

Watched up until Frodo gets the Ring.

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

I see no issue with crushing or contrast.

He only watched about 30 min of it.

Just wait till he gets to Moria.

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[JamesKurtovich]

After tweaking some of my settings, I noticed I might have had my contrast set a bit high. This basically minimized the tint. Now I can clearly see the green title in the beginning of the film and the picture gets much darker once I use recommended settings from avsforum or another source.

I think I might just use "Torch" mode when watching FOTR--or just increasing 'dynamic contrast'. It basically puts a band-aid on this issue by making things brighter than usual and giving everything a little more "pop."

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

After tweaking some of my settings, I noticed I might have had my contrast set a bit high. This basically minimized the tint. Now I can clearly see the green title in the beginning of the film and the picture gets much darker once I use recommended settings from avsforum or another source.

I think I might just use "Torch" mode when watching FOTR--or just increasing 'dynamic contrast' (Samsung plasma). It basically puts a band-aid on this issue by making things brighter than usual and giving everything that popping contrast.

Seriously, you are far better off just using a calibration disc or the AVS test patterns which can be downloaded for free.

[JamesKurtovich]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Seriously, you are far better off just using a calibration disc or the AVS test patterns which can be downloaded for free.

Yeah. I'll see if I can find a disc. It's not exactly something I'd consider putting money into, but I'll think about it.

After some deliberation, I've gone back to my normal settings. It's a bit darker and/or greener in certain scenes, but it looks more natural than an artificially brightened picture, except in those scenes.

On a good note, I love the audio. Few of my BDs have given my speakers this much work to do!

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

Yeah. I'll see if I can find a disc. It's not exactly something I'd consider putting money into, but I'll think about it.

After some deliberation, I've gone back to my normal settings. It's a bit darker and/or greener in certain scenes, but it looks more natural than an artificially brightened picture, except in those scenes.

On a good note, I love the audio. Few of my BDs have given my speakers this much work to do!

Remember: if you're set is not calibrated, you're not seeing the content the way the filmmaker intended. All discs and video are mastered according to SMPTE (video standards). Unfortantely, few people view this way and are watching in a distorted manner. The calibration discs won't help you with grayscale and gamma (both of which is crucial) in this case, but can help you set brightness, contrast, sharpness, and get you somwhat close although to a lesser degree with color saturation and tint.

[eskimox2009]

anybody out there that can explain the two different extened edition box sets? one came in 2011 the other in 2012. look it up on here

[chip75]

Originally Posted by eskimox2009

anybody out there that can explain the two different extened edition box sets? one came in 2011 the other in 2012. look it up on here

I think the 1st set now has expired Digital Copies. Looking on Amazon I'm not sure if the newer set has DC's to start with, as they're not on the case with the customers pictures. Everything else is the same I think content-wise unless they have money off The Hobbit or other offers inside.