The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[chip75]

Originally Posted by billzfan

I just watched the EE of Fellowship for the first time. I have seen the theatrical 3-4 times and found the additional scenes really worthless and even dragged the pacing of the film down by a lot. Every scene that was extended was unnecesarry, mostly because it appears that Jackson added dialogue that implies a lot of what was discussed in the added scenes. Are Two Towers and Return of the King more of the same with extended scenes? If so, I won't waste my time.

I think you'll probably feel the same about the next two films. The Two Towers is probably better extended in my opinion.

The Two Towers Part 1
The Two Towers Part 2
The Return of the King Part 1
The Return of the King Part 2

You can check out the differences with the links above.

[42041]

Originally Posted by billzfan

I just watched the EE of Fellowship for the first time. I have seen the theatrical 3-4 times and found the additional scenes really worthless and even dragged the pacing of the film down by a lot. Every scene that was extended was unnecesarry, mostly because it appears that Jackson added dialogue that implies a lot of what was discussed in the added scenes. Are Two Towers and Return of the King more of the same with extended scenes? If so, I won't waste my time.

Then I recommend definitely skipping ROTK:EE... I think the extended cuts of the first two films are okay but ROTK is excruciatingly overlong.

[brian9229]

Originally Posted by billzfan

I just watched the EE of Fellowship for the first time. I have seen the theatrical 3-4 times and found the additional scenes really worthless and even dragged the pacing of the film down by a lot. Every scene that was extended was unnecesarry, mostly because it appears that Jackson added dialogue that implies a lot of what was discussed in the added scenes. Are Two Towers and Return of the King more of the same with extended scenes? If so, I won't waste my time.

[frogmort]

As far as the sound of Gandalf's staff on the Bridge of Khazad-dûm, it has always been different between FotR and TT, even in the theater. In Fellowship, it's much more subdued than in TT. If you'll notice, the editing is different right after that too. In FotR Gandalf says "Fly you fools", then falls, then Frodo says "No!". In TT Gandalf says "Fly you fools", then Frodo says "No!", and then Gandalf falls.

I think these changes were made deliberately to make things seem slightly off and unusual, like "Are we seeing a flashback? Is Frodo dreaming this? Did the falling fight with the Balrog actually happen?" Because Frodo wakes up right after they hit the water, and as far as we know Gandalf the Grey is dead, as Gandalf the White hasn't made his appearance yet.

[RandyK]

Originally Posted by frogmort

As far as the sound of Gandalf's staff on the Bridge of Khazad-dûm, it has always been different between FotR and TT, even in the theater. In Fellowship, it's much more subdued than in TT. If you'll notice, the editing is different right after that too. In FotR Gandalf says "Fly you fools", then falls, then Frodo says "No!". In TT Gandalf says "Fly you fools", then Frodo says "No!", and then Gandalf falls.

I think these changes were made deliberately to make things seem slightly off and unusual, like "Are we seeing a flashback? Is Frodo dreaming this? Did the falling fight with the Balrog actually happen?" Because Frodo wakes up right after they hit the water, and as far as we know Gandalf the Grey is dead, as Gandalf the White hasn't made his appearance yet.

Excellent point. I noticed the difference in dialogue when I watched the trilogy last week. I think this is what PJ was after when he edited the two.

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by billzfan

I just watched the EE of Fellowship for the first time. I have seen the theatrical 3-4 times and found the additional scenes really worthless and even dragged the pacing of the film down by a lot. Every scene that was extended was unnecesarry, mostly because it appears that Jackson added dialogue that implies a lot of what was discussed in the added scenes. Are Two Towers and Return of the King more of the same with extended scenes? If so, I won't waste my time.

Fellowship has a lot of scenes that delve in to the characters. The scene where Aragorn is singing foreshadows his love with Arwen and what happens there. More of Boromir shows how mad the ring drove him.

The Two Towers benefits greatly from extended scenes, especially when it comes to Faramir's relationship with his father. You actually get to see him, Boromir, and their father interacting. It's a great setup to what happens in RotK.

As for RotK, I found out today that I can't tolerate the EE anymore because it's too damned long. I can't really tell you much about the extended bits. Sorry about that.

[invenio]

I'm sure this has been brought up in the 333 pages of this thread, but is anybody else upset that the EE of LOTR is so expensive compared to the Theatrical cut. The Blu-ray of LOTR:EE is currently $55 (and has never dropped below $40). I bought the LOTR:Theatrical 6 disc set blu-ray for $11.83 (which included shipping and a $5 off of The Hobbit movie ticket). I don't mind paying a little extra for the EE but to pay 4-8x the price just seems ridiculous. Anybody agree?

[Extremis]

Originally Posted by invenio

I'm sure this has been brought up in the 333 pages of this thread, but is anybody else upset that the EE of LOTR is so expensive compared to the Theatrical cut. The Blu-ray of LOTR:EE is currently $55 (and has never dropped below $40). I bought the LOTR:Theatrical 6 disc set blu-ray for $11.83 (which included shipping and a $5 off of The Hobbit movie ticket). I don't mind paying a little extra for the EE but to pay 4-8x the price just seems ridiculous. Anybody agree?

This is 15 discs (yes some DVD) and includes better packaging and extras along with the amazing extended cuts of LOTR which aren't just slapped together.

[invenio]

Originally Posted by ryan4butler

This is 15 discs (yes some DVD) and includes better packaging and extras along with the amazing extended cuts of LOTR which aren't just slapped together.

I think all the special features are on DVD. I remember buying the EE on DVD for $5 a movie like 6 years ago. Once again, I understand a little more but how do you justify charging 4 to 8 times as much for a couple of DVD's and a little bit better packaging?

[Extremis]

Originally Posted by invenio

I think all the special features are on DVD. I remember buying the EE on DVD for $5 a movie like 6 years ago. Once again, I understand a little more but how do you justify charging 4 to 8 times as much for a couple of DVD's and a little bit better packaging?

They're different cuts from the EE DVD (which I also have). I guess they don't have to justify the price, if you're a true fan of the films you'll buy it in an instant and it only helps that there's a lot of extra stuff included.

[icy hot]

Originally Posted by invenio

I think all the special features are on DVD. I remember buying the EE on DVD for $5 a movie like 6 years ago. Once again, I understand a little more but how do you justify charging 4 to 8 times as much for a couple of DVD's and a little bit better packaging?

Think of it this way, they aren't charging more for the EEs than they normally would, they are charging much much less for the Theatrical Versions than they normally would. Maybe when the EEs were released they had a huge surplus of the Theatrical discs they couldn't get rid of?

[fpas]

Originally Posted by DarkDune

Funny.

I don't think they're aging at all. They still are some of the best fantasy genre films out there.

People are so dazzled by the current tech that they can often lose site of what makes good film-making.

Of course 3D 48-fps presentations of the new Hobbit movies will make anything previous look "dated" LOL

Trust me, I and a lot of other people don't think 3D-48FPS is going to outdate a certain film-look. It seems that 3D-48fps is never going to be able to give a certain 'filmic' experience, because, apparently, it shows too much (too much detail in make-up and costume, flaws, cgi doesn't blend as well), and makes your brain work completely different. Others might say fry your brain. In any case, there are numerous posts and critical articles to be found.
A couple of the most outspoken, and detailed articles on 3D-48fps are:
http://gizmodo.com/5969817/the-hobbi...y-48-fps-fails
and
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/column...ney-into-speed

And I suggest we can continue this particular discussion maybe in another topic, dedicated to these technical aspects. Of course, there's always room for improvement in these technical developments. It's definitely a very interesting topic.

[Ugly Pig]

Originally Posted by ryan4butler

They're different cuts from the EE DVD (which I also have).

Whuh?

[Adam_WM]

Originally Posted by ryan4butler

They're different cuts from the EE DVD (which I also have). I guess they don't have to justify the price, if you're a true fan of the films you'll buy it in an instant and it only helps that there's a lot of extra stuff included.

Um, they aren't different than the EE DVDs.

[mzupeman]

Yeah, they're definitely not different cuts than the EE DVD's. The EE's are the EE's... period. The only difference is that FOTR now has that green tint. Other than that, these films are exactly the same as the old EE DVD's.

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by mzupeman

Yeah, they're definitely not different cuts than the EE DVD's. The EE's are the EE's... period. The only difference is that FOTR now has that green tint. Other than that, these films are exactly the same as the old EE DVD's.

And the 'crushed blacks' which stand out MORE then the color change.

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[invenio]

Originally Posted by mzupeman

Yeah, they're definitely not different cuts than the EE DVD's. The EE's are the EE's... period. The only difference is that FOTR now has that green tint. Other than that, these films are exactly the same as the old EE DVD's.

I also understood them to be the same "cut" of the movie whether it's DVD:EE or Blu-ray:EE. They altered the coloring of the movies, but the scenes/playtime are identical.

So basically if you own the DVD:EE (which I do, and bought for $5 a movie over 6 years ago) upgrading to the BR:EE really only gets you higher resolution and a change in coloring. That's fine, but it still doesn't explain why the BR:EE costs 4-8x as much as the BR:theatrical cut,... other than price gouging the die hard fans. I think paying under $12 (really $7 if you count the $5 certificate included for The Hobbit which I used toward my movie ticket) is a good deal for all three movies. $55 for simply the extra footage of the EE I would classify under "borderline rip off."

Unfortunately, that does not change the fact that I REALLY want the BR:EE edition!

[Extremis]

Originally Posted by invenio

I also understood them to be the same "cut" of the movie whether it's DVD:EE or Blu-ray:EE. They altered the coloring of the movies, but the scenes/playtime are identical.

So basically if you own the DVD:EE (which I do, and bought for $5 a movie over 6 years ago) upgrading to the BR:EE really only gets you higher resolution and a change in coloring. That's fine, but it still doesn't explain why the BR:EE costs 4-8x as much as the BR:theatrical cut,... other than price gouging the die hard fans. I think paying under $12 (really $7 if you count the $5 certificate included for The Hobbit which I used toward my movie ticket) is a good deal for all three movies. $55 for simply the extra footage of the EE I would classify under "borderline rip off."

Unfortunately, that does not change the fact that I REALLY want the BR:EE edition!

No. It's not the same cut, more footage was added as well...

[chip75]

Originally Posted by ryan4butler

No. It's not the same cut, more footage was added as well...

My apologies if I've misinterpreted your post but the DVD EE and BD EE's are identical in content. There isn't any extra content added. The BD EE just include the Costa Botes documentaries which were part of the limited edition DVD releases.

[invenio]

Originally Posted by chip75

My apologies if I've misinterpreted your post but the DVD EE and BD EE's are identical in content. There isn't any extra content added. The BD EE just include the Costa Botes documentaries which were part of the limited edition DVD releases.

This is taken from wikipedia:

"Warner Bros. released the trilogy's theatrical versions on Blu-ray Disc in a boxed set on 6 April 2010.[43] An extended edition Blu-ray box set was made available for pre-order from Amazon.com in March 2011 and was released on 28 June 2011.[44] Each film's extended Blu-Ray version is identical to the extended DVD version; the running time includes an added credit sequence listing the names of "Lord of the Rings fan-club members" who contributed to the project.[45][46]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lor...es)#Home_media

Essentially there are only two versions (in terms of scenes/running time), the theatrical cut and the Extended edition as these are identical across all formats. The coloring was changed for the Blu-ray edition but the actual movie is identical in terms of scenes and timing.